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SG Jon Diebler (2nd-Most Big Ten career 3-Pointers, Butler Recruiting Director)

OSUBasketballJunkie;1042800; said:
While Diebler has found his range, making 14 of 23 3-pointers in his last four games after making 7-of-45 in his first eight games

It was only a matter of time. I haven't gotten a chance to watch many games since Turner began starting, and Diebler began coming off the bench (aside from the Florida game which I was at) but we seem to be getting a lot more production out of both of them.
 
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Dispatch

Rob Oller commentary: Diebler weathers adjustment well

Thursday, January 3, 2008 3:24 AM
By Rob Oller


THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH


The difference between a high school legend and a college role player is as dramatic as the front of a high school athlete's crepe-papered locker. When Jon Diebler arrived at Ohio State last summer, there were no cheerleaders standing by to decorate his locker in scarlet and gray construction paper. No one showed up to paint his number on signs taped to the trophy case near the cafeteria.
At Upper Sandusky, everyone knew it was Jon, without the "H."
At OSU, initially it was ? "John who?"
"At first, it was a little different," Diebler said yesterday after the Buckeyes finished practicing for tonight's Big Ten opener at Illinois. "It was nice."



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I knew Diebler would be inconsistent this year but I really hope he snaps out of it against Tennessee this weekend. We really neet him to hit 2 or 3 bombs a game to help keep defenses off of Butler.
 
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He was such a good shooter last year and, at times, this year I just cannot understand why he is having such a difficult time with his shot. I really am having a difficult time understanding how he is losing his shot.
 
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Sometimes we forget how big of a transition it is from high school to Division I....it is not just on the court but a change in life. Diebler comes from a very small community (I grew up in the area). My point is that expectations vs. reality are sometimes lost. He will be fine. Not every freshman is Cook, Conley or Oden like.
 
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OSUBasketballJunkie;1067628; said:
Sometimes we forget how big of a transition it is from high school to Division I....it is not just on the court but a change in life. Diebler comes from a very small community (I grew up in the area). My point is that expectations vs. reality are sometimes lost. He will be fine. Not every freshman is Cook, Conley or Oden like.


Did you grow up in Upper?
 
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OSUBasketballJunkie;1067628; said:
Sometimes we forget how big of a transition it is from high school to Division I....it is not just on the court but a change in life. Diebler comes from a very small community (I grew up in the area). My point is that expectations vs. reality are sometimes lost. He will be fine. Not every freshman is Cook, Conley or Oden like.
I understand what you're saying. My in-laws are from Arlington. I guess what I just don't understand about Jon is that one game he will be fine than the next game it's a step back. I think if it had to do with coming from a rural community to a big university he would get over that step after a few months and 1/2 of the season. I don't know. I'm just grasping.
 
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LitlBuck;1067664; said:
I understand what you're saying. My in-laws are from Arlington. I guess what I just don't understand about Jon is that one game he will be fine than the next game it's a step back. I think if it had to do with coming from a rural community to a big university she would get over that step after a few months and 1/2 of the season. I don't know. I'm just grasping.

Well, that was pretty mean of you LitL. :shake:




:p
 
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Dispatch

January 16, 2008

Diebler redux

The talk is starting again.
I got an e-mail tonight from a reader. I?ve had questions from several other people. How long is Thad Matta going to stick with Jon Diebler?
My question: What?s Matta?s alternative?
I?ve been told that Diebler, for all the points he scored in high school, was a streaky shooter then. Guess what? He?s still a streaky shooter.
He made seven of 45 three-point attempts in the Buckeyes? first eight games, and five of those came in one game, against North Carolina.
In his next six games, he made 19 of 35 threes.
Now he's ice again, having missed his last 15 in a row.
Why keep playing him? Why not?
Look beyond the shooting.
Diebler?s length on the wing is valuable in the zone defense. He?s held his own at that end, and his four rebounds against Michigan State were better than his average.
On offense, he plays in the system and doesn?t force shots or plays. He?s a shooter, not a driver, and plays to his strengths. He has three turnovers in five Big Ten games, fewest among the top seven in the rotation. He?s been solid if unspectacular, save for the scoring drought. But he?s not the only one not scoring.
Now, as to who would get his minutes.
P.J. Hill? He may start getting a little more time if he continues to play as solidly as he did at Michigan State, but he?s a situational substitution. He isn?t a three-point threat and, while a pest in the press, he costs the zone half a foot on the wing when he?s playing in tandem with Jamar Butler.
Eric Wallace? He?s athletic and has produced late in blowouts of Presbyterian and Iowa. But if he was the answer, we?d have seen more of him already. Wallace himself admitted during a recent conversation that his skills need to be developed. He doesn?t question why he?s not playing more.
What fans need to have with Diebler _ and Kosta Koufos and Evan Turner and even sophomore David Lighty, for that matter _ is patience. You truly didn?t think these freshmen were the second coming of Oden, Conley and Cook, did you? They?re typical freshmen, better than most, not as good as some. They?re not the phenoms last year?s were.
If you?re still ready to write off Diebler as a bust, consider one final comparison. He?s shooting 27.7 percent from outside the arc. Butler, as a freshman, shot 23 percent.
 
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That is actually a very solid article from the dispatch...

The stat that really floored me was the lack of turnovers by Diebler...

He is such a smart player, and just because his shot isn't falling doesnt mean he isn't a threat to opposing defenses, and that he can't catch fire at any time...
 
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I am not worried one bit that Jon has somehow lost his shot......a kid that shoots like he did in HS just doesn't forget how to shoot the ball.....it will come. He is a freshman that is going through a transition on a team loaded with young players.....it is a hard transition.
 
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crazybuckfan40;1068215; said:
The stat that really floored me was the lack of turnovers by Diebler...

He is such a smart player, and just because his shot isn't falling doesnt mean he isn't a threat to opposing defenses, and that he can't catch fire at any time...

Not to diminish his fundamentally sound play, but Diebler hasn't been put into too many positions where he's at a high risk of turning the ball over. Butler and Turner handle the ball a lot more often and Turner and Lighty do most of the one-on-one dribbling & penetrating (what little there is :p). When the ball goes to him, usually in the corner, it will be a shot or maybe a couple dribbles up to the wing before a pass out top. When he has pump-faked and penetrated is when he seems to turn the ball over.

That being said, he doesn't seem to make as many of the "lazy" passes that some of the other players have been making. Not as much of a lackadaisical attitude what should be routine passes. The Northwestern game comes to mind as one where too many passes were just lolly-gagged around, not crisp at all.
 
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