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QB Todd Boeckman (official thread)

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Dryden;1336838; said:
I don't know if Todd even needs that much work. He just needs a line that is built to keep a pocket passer upright. When his O-Line is on (Penn State last year) he looks like a 2nd/3rd round pick.

Todd is the same height (6'4") and nearly 20 pounds heavier (244 vs 225) than Krenzel. I think Todd his the arm, the decision making ability, and the confidence when he has the time and the playmakers around him making the plays. He just has that prototypical QB body type that make NFL guys say "value" and "upside." Somebody will give him a shot. Certainly, he's one of those guys that'll get 32 phone calls for a tryout post draft if he winds up a an undrafted free agent.

TB's financial future will probably be determined by the Senior Bowl or the East/West Shrine Game or whatever post post-season game he gets an invite to. If he gets that opportunity, and an NFL staff conducive to success, one of those all-star bowls will give him a stage to showcase his talent.
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i strongly disagree. todd has shown me something. if he chooses to coach hell do fine. if he chooses the business world hell make a killing. nice kid, great personality, ability to handle himself in situations, a name, a couple of b10 titles to his name. if he picks the business world hell be able to pull down 150k+ easy. Multiply that time 30 or4 0 years, hell make more money than he would playing football... granted who knows he might make an nfl squad and then he could double dip. hell be successfull, i think hell make his hometown, team, coach and university proud...
 
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Dispatch
Losing job hurt Boeckman, but he has taken it in stride

Sunday, December 14, 2008 3:40 AM
By Tim May


THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH
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Todd Boeckman says his performance is to blame for his being replaced at quarterback during his senior year.




When Todd Boeckman's football days are done -- despite what happened to him this season, he still has a shot at playing time in years to come -- he might consider a career in public relations with a major in spin control. Asked how tough his senior season has been after losing the starting quarterback job to freshman Terrelle Pryor after three games, Boeckman's first reaction was to smile, then chuckle. But his answer was serious.
"This whole situation has been tough," Boeckman said. "It would be tough on anybody. If you lost your job, it would be tough on you, right?
"But I'm hanging in there. I love being around these guys. They made it easier on me. And getting to get out there in the Michigan game and throw a touchdown pass in my last game in Ohio Stadium, it made it a little better ending."
Debate among OSU fans went on most of the season after coach Jim Tressel made the switch. Some thought it was fair, because of Boeckman's drop-off in effectiveness late last season through the first three games this year.
Some thought it was radical to go with a freshman, despite his obvious talents, instead of sticking with the struggling senior who the year before was the All-Big Ten quarterback that helped the Buckeyes win an outright Big Ten title and gain a spot in the national title game.
What struck others was how final the decision was. After Tressel installed Pryor as the starter, Boeckman seldom played, even when Pryor struggled. Boeckman's most extensive time came in the regular season-ending win over Michigan.
Some thought Boeckman paid too high a price for the foibles of an offensive line that struggled to find its stride while No. 1 running back Chris "Beanie" Wells missed three straight games -- including the 35-3 loss at Southern California -- because of a right foot injury in the opener.
What was expected to be a veteran-laden offense with a power-bent and over-the-top passing game morphed into more of a spread attack trying to make up for the lack of Wells. It was as if Boeckman, a pocket passer by trade, ended up in the right place at the wrong time.
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Some of the letters to the editor (Ray Stein) in the Columbus Dispatch sports have been ripping Tressel since the Michigan game and here's one from the Sunday edition:

"Mr. Stein:
I don't know why you've elected to defend Coach Tressel in his unwise decision to play Pryor to the ruination of this season. By doing so you support the unfair treatment of the many seniors (including Boeckman) who elected to return without the knowledge that their coach had made a deal to mortgage their final year.
But rather than argue the issue any longer I respectfully request you save the following prediction until 2011: OSU will lose big in the Fiesta Bowl, then lose big again to USC in the 'Shoe and go on to struggle in, if not lose, the 2009 Michigan game.
You will then be part of a movement vocalizing the need to consider a new head coach. And it will all originate from the Pryor vs. Boeckman decision."

Stein responded:
"Consider your prediction saved. But while we're on the "ruination" front, would you suggest that Mo Wells should have played ahead of Beanie Wells all year because the former is a senior? Nuts."

There are some kooky people out there to be sure.
 
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ysubuck;1355143; said:
Some of the letters to the editor (Ray Stein) in the Columbus Dispatch sports have been ripping Tressel since the Michigan game and here's one from the Sunday edition:

"Mr. Stein:
I don't know why you've elected to defend Coach Tressel in his unwise decision to play Pryor to the ruination of this season. By doing so you support the unfair treatment of the many seniors (including Boeckman) who elected to return without the knowledge that their coach had made a deal to mortgage their final year.
But rather than argue the issue any longer I respectfully request you save the following prediction until 2011: OSU will lose big in the Fiesta Bowl, then lose big again to USC in the 'Shoe and go on to struggle in, if not lose, the 2009 Michigan game.
You will then be part of a movement vocalizing the need to consider a new head coach. And it will all originate from the Pryor vs. Boeckman decision."

Stein responded:
"Consider your prediction saved. But while we're on the "ruination" front, would you suggest that Mo Wells should have played ahead of Beanie Wells all year because the former is a senior? Nuts."

There are some kooky people out there to be sure.
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I've always wondered what makes those people tick... to be able to make such outlandish comments/predictions without any reason or sense, but I guess thats why they call them dumbasses.
 
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ysubuck;1355143; said:
Some of the letters to the editor (Ray Stein) in the Columbus Dispatch sports have been ripping Tressel since the Michigan game and here's one from the Sunday edition:

"Mr. Stein:
I don't know why you've elected to defend Coach Tressel in his unwise decision to play Pryor to the ruination of this season. By doing so you support the unfair treatment of the many seniors (including Boeckman) who elected to return without the knowledge that their coach had made a deal to mortgage their final year.
But rather than argue the issue any longer I respectfully request you save the following prediction until 2011: OSU will lose big in the Fiesta Bowl, then lose big again to USC in the 'Shoe and go on to struggle in, if not lose, the 2009 Michigan game.
You will then be part of a movement vocalizing the need to consider a new head coach. And it will all originate from the Pryor vs. Boeckman decision."

Stein responded:
"Consider your prediction saved. But while we're on the "ruination" front, would you suggest that Mo Wells should have played ahead of Beanie Wells all year because the former is a senior? Nuts."

There are some kooky people out there to be sure.
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While the writer of the original letter does appear a bit kooky, one doesn't really evince that by reciprocating with fallacious arguments. Between that and the unnecessary invocation of the McAuliffian invective there at the end, I had hoped we could expect more from an editor of the dispatch.
 
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ysubuck;1355143; said:
Some of the letters to the editor (Ray Stein) in the Columbus Dispatch sports have been ripping Tressel since the Michigan game and here's one from the Sunday edition:

"Mr. Stein:
I don't know why you've elected to defend Coach Tressel in his unwise decision to play Pryor to the ruination of this season. By doing so you support the unfair treatment of the many seniors (including Boeckman) who elected to return without the knowledge that their coach had made a deal to mortgage their final year.
But rather than argue the issue any longer I respectfully request you save the following prediction until 2011: OSU will lose big in the Fiesta Bowl, then lose big again to USC in the 'Shoe and go on to struggle in, if not lose, the 2009 Michigan game.
You will then be part of a movement vocalizing the need to consider a new head coach. And it will all originate from the Pryor vs. Boeckman decision."

Stein responded:
"Consider your prediction saved. But while we're on the "ruination" front, would you suggest that Mo Wells should have played ahead of Beanie Wells all year because the former is a senior? Nuts."

There are some kooky people out there to be sure.
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Something I thought of a little later in the afternoon, and I mean no disrespect to Boeckman or Bellisari when I say this, but this type of thinking and decision making lead to our 7-5 record in 2001. I mean Steve was a lousy passer who constantly made poor decisions in '01, yet Tressel stuck by his side all the way up until his DUI incident.

If you look back to '01, had we maybe have tried McMullen or Krenzel earlier in the season, lets say after the debacle to UCLA (although maybe one of them could have saved that game, had we let one of them play extensive minutes in it, since our defense did force 7 turnovers in that game and completely shut Deshaun Foster down), but we're looking at the possibility of not blowing a 17-0 lead against Wisconsin, a 27-9 lead against (1-4) Penn State, and probably still losing to Illinois and South Carolina and ending the season 9-3 or 10-2 (if we saved the UCLA game), sharing the Big Ten title and maybe going to a BCS bowl.

Of course there's no way to say that had Boeckman remained our QB this entire season that we'd be 7-5 or any worse than we ended up at 10-2, and I'm not even trying to compare Boeckman to Bellisari, but I'd be willing to bet we probably would have lost to wisky and played some closer games than we did, which would leave us on the outside looking in on the BCS Bowls from our hotels in Orlando.

Anyways, enough of my tangent, just thought I'd offer a different correlation than the editor did with his MoWells comment.
 
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I have always felt like given the right situation TB could have put up EXCELLENT numbers. I just don't think he handled pressure well enough for how much pressure our offensive line was letting get to him. Pryor on the other hand has had his best moments when the line has failed and he's been flushed from the pocket. Pryor led us to a great season, and in our one loss, it wasn't just Pryor who didn't play well on offense...most everybody on offense had a bad game. It happens. Penn State's defense played lights out. It was a really close game and we still had the ball last with a chance to win it. I have felt like Tressel has made the best decisions possible for this team when it comes to who has had playing time.

TB is a great man. He is and was a great QB for Ohio State. I felt like it became clear after the USC game that TP gave us the best chance to win, and I think Tressel felt that way too. That's what a great head coach does. I don't think we'd be in the BCS championship game had TB been the starter all year. I feel like TB is a very lucky guy. He got to be the QB for the best football program in college, and then got start a BCS championship game. He has had a great career at a great university. We all would be lucky to be as successful as he has been...but mostly the reason he has been so successful is because of his work ethic and attitude. Hopefully Boeckman has worn off onto Pryor, and we can have the same type of guy behind center for the next three years.
 
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Watching YSU get consistent hits on Todd, I'm thinkin'; "Oh my God! He won't survive the season with protection like that!"
He deserved so much better from the guys in front of him. I'm sorry things didn't work out for him better, but it's a team game and the QB functions as a part of the whole. Todd has enough skills to get a look at by the NFL. I wish him a shot at the Pros.
Thank you, Todd. You are a warrior and a Buckeye. :bow:
 
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I've been beating this drum all season:

Todd's benching, IMO, maybe 20% Todd and 80% the absolutely dismal play of the O line. Todd never would have made it through the season anyhow with the way the line has played this year. Couple that with Beanie being hurt and there was no other choice. Beanie didn't get much in the way of blocking either but he is such a talent that he can often do it by himself (see Northwestern game). I think Coach Tressel realized that and had an athlete in TP that could offset the horrid offensive line by being able to escape when he needed to. Todd has shown that if given time he can throw the ball through the tiniest of pass coverage windows. Unfortunately the O line has been unable to give either QB much time (against quality opposition) but at least TP can buy himself some time when the protection breaks down.

Very unfortunate situation that Todd has handled with nothing but class.
 
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