QB Todd Boeckman (official thread)

[Magua]

Some very good points here in the last few posts. I think the issue with the WR's not getting open is just the simple fact that they aren't fast enough. Its not that they aren't working hard or studying film or doing whatever. They just don't have Ginn/Holmes like speed. They weren't highly touted recruits for that very reason(especially Robiskie). They are exceptional route runners with exceptional hands which is why they are still very good receivers, but neither is great because they do not have the ability to just make a quick move and GO while creating some separation. I just hope that some of the other receivers really step up this season(cough cough ray small) who have that ability and can stretch the defense while we let our possession receivers terrorize the middle of the field with intermediate routes. I haven't gone back to look at the game at all but were there any plays involving Saine motioning out of the backfield to a WR position. No RB/Safety is going to run with a healthy Saine.

 

[Buckeyecty4]

Im not sure I get the long bombs 4-5 times a game.. Im sorry but Brian Robiskie and Brian Hartline arent guys you throw a long jump ball to.. if they get behind the D then great.. but when they are man to man running down the field, neither of these guys have the vertical or strength to go up and haul a ball in.

Also, the knock on Todd from insiders is that he struggles with the intermediate routes, and he doesnt go through his progressions..

Through two weeks of play, he hasnt alleviated those concerns..

 

[osugrad21]

Split the garbage off and sent two children to the house.

I'd advise the whiners and bashers to find another board today...it will not be tolerated here.

Those who choose to push are leaving. Period.

 

[buchtelgrad04]

Im not sure I get the long bombs 4-5 times a game.. Im sorry but Brian Robiskie and Brian Hartline arent guys you throw a long jump ball to.. if they get behind the D then great.. but when they are man to man running down the field, neither of these guys have the vertical or strength to go up and haul a ball in.

Also, the knock on Todd from insiders is that he struggles with the intermediate routes, and he doesnt go through his progressions..

Through two weeks of play, he hasnt alleviated those concerns..

I would disagree with "The Brians" not being guys you throw the long ball to. They are very capable of fighting for the ball in the air (i.e. Minnesota last year), it's just that, sometimes Todd holds on to the ball too long before he releases it, giving the defense time to recover (saftey help over top, CB recovering, etc...). But, when Todd throws the ball on time, it's a thing of beauty (i.e. Washington & Penn State last year.)

 

[HorticullyBuck]

I bet if we had the film that the team uses we could know this more directly; i dont have itckets until troy starts; so i had to watch from tv where u dont get to see the WR seperate often (of course) anyone at the game notice anything particular??

 

[buckeye4ever21]

I'm not real happy with the progressions that Boeckman has made from this year to last year. He still fails to move his eyes around because he tends to lock onto one reciever through the entire route. Our recievers aren't getting great seperation but i think boeckman needs to scan the field more and not try to squeeze the ball into some of the throwing lanes that he is. This next game will tell a lot and I feel that we will see more of Pryor as the year progresses. Just wish we'd open up the playbook a little more for both of these guys instead of trying to hide things.

 

[matcar]

Im not sure I get the long bombs 4-5 times a game.. Im sorry but Brian Robiskie and Brian Hartline arent guys you throw a long jump ball to.. if they get behind the D then great.. but when they are man to man running down the field, neither of these guys have the vertical or strength to go up and haul a ball in.

Also, the knock on Todd from insiders is that he struggles with the intermediate routes, and he doesnt go through his progressions..

Through two weeks of play, he hasnt alleviated those concerns..

This may be true, but after re-watching the game a couple times today, I think Todd was really failed by the Brians yesterday. I think those dropped balls and general "dis-engagement" changed the game quite a bit. Had those balls been caught, the game and score would have been quite a bit different.

I'm not saying that Todd cannot improve and improve greatly, but yesterday, I saw the two primary receivers (who frankly DON'T get a great deal of separation) giving little help for a good portion of the game. The good news for me is that I seriously doubt that will ever happen again.

 

[daddyphatsacs]

I thought that Todd really threw the ball well yesterday. He had 3 dropped balls that I can think of that should have been easy catches, all for good yardage. My only beef with him is that he holds the ball for too long at times......either throw that bitch away or tuck and run!

 

[generaladm]

This may be true, but after re-watching the game a couple times today, I think Todd was really failed by the Brians yesterday. I think those dropped balls and general "dis-engagement" changed the game quite a bit. Had those balls been caught, the game and score would have been quite a bit different.

I'm not saying that Todd cannot improve and improve greatly, but yesterday, I saw the two primary receivers (who frankly DON'T get a great deal of separation) giving little help for a good portion of the game. The good news for me is that I seriously doubt that will ever happen again.

I agree. TB didn't look as accurate as usual yesterday, but there were some very catchable balls that the WRs just wiffed on. Robo had one bounce off his hip, Hartline could have had a TD if he had reacted quicker, even Small, who had a good game, made a one-handed swat at a ball he should have had. It has to be frustrating for a QB when his WRs are making his job harder. The O-line wasn't exactly stepping up either.

But, that game's in the books. They all know what they need to do next week. If they were all freshmen, I'd be worried, but they know how to be an effective offense. Getting Beanie back will give them a boost, also. The game on the 13th will tell us a lot about the character of this team. Remember, last season, OSU looked rather lackluster for 10 quarters, then broke out in the 2nd half at Washington. I'm sure everyone will play better than they did yesterday.

 

[MUBuck]

My only beef with him is that he holds the ball for too long at times...

His biggest problem has been looking to run too early. He gets happy feet if his first option isn't open.

 

[daddyphatsacs]

His biggest problem has been looking to run too early. He gets happy feet if his first option isn't open.

Huh? I guess you and I weren't watching the same game. I can think of one particular play yesterday when he had good protection and hung out in the pocket for too long.........a backside end came along and got the sack. If he had happy feet on that particular play he would have gotten 5 yards.

 

[craigblitz]

My only beef with him is that he holds the ball for too long at times......either throw that bitch away or tuck and run!

+1

His internal clock needs to be calibrated for sure. Everyone wants to talk about him not going through progressions, locking on to one reciever, holding it too long. Could be a simple case of being afraid to make a mistake. No doubt that is preached to him from JT and company.

Vs USC.... I hope we see more throw the bitch away...lol

 

[OSUBasketballJunkie]

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Veteran quarterback Todd Boeckman of Ohio State engineered two second-half touchdown drives in the Buckeyes' 26-14 victory over Ohio last Saturday.


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Ohio State's forgotten quarterback

Veteran quarterback Todd Boeckman of Ohio State engineered two second-half touchdown drives in the Buckeyes' 26-14 victory over Ohio last Saturday.


Todd Boeckman still holding his own against the challenge of freshman Terrelle Pryor.
By David Wharton, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
4:35 PM PDT, September 9, 2008

COLUMBUS, Ohio -- It might not seem fair, all this commotion over the new quarterback at Ohio State.
From the moment Terrelle Pryor arrived on campus as the top high school recruit in the nation, fans and the media have clamored for details.
They want to know about the big kid with the strong arm and tailback moves. When will he break into the lineup? How many snaps will he get?
In all the excitement, they seem to have forgotten that the Buckeyes already have a starting quarterback, a fifth-year senior who guided the team to the national championship game last season.
"It's not a big deal," Todd Boeckman says. "It doesn't bug me."

Continued......

 

[PlanetFrnd]

Vs USC.... I hope we see more...

I have a feeling we'll see alot more versus USC.

 

[MUBuck]

Huh? I guess you and I weren't watching the same game. I can think of one particular play yesterday when he had good protection and hung out in the pocket for too long.........a backside end came along and got the sack. If he had happy feet on that particular play he would have gotten 5 yards.

I suppose you could go through and find 1 play in which he hung for too long, but that doesn't happen all too often.