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QB Todd Boeckman (official thread)

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generaladm;1202960; said:
One fact that gets lost in the shuffle when talking about Boeckman is that his 2007 stats as a first year starter and a junior are ranked 5th in school history. The four ahead of him: Germaine, Hoying, Schlichter, and Smith were all seniors. Last year, TB had a reputation as a leader, but a calm, quiet one. Maybe this year he will become more vocal. TB had a lot of pressure on him last year, asked to lead an offense that only had two senior starters. This year, the offense is loaded with 4th and 5th year players who all have the experience of two NC runs. The O doesn't have to make huge strides from last year, just be consistent and minimize mistakes. Everyone seems to think that TB just needs to play safe and "not lose games". I think he has the skills to be a great QB. If a true burner 3rd WR emerges who can stretch the field, it should open up a lot of options for him. Don't be surprised if TB's numbers this year are good enough for 3rd all time.
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I agree that Todd will be a good QB this year. I do think that he has several burners that may fill that bill and stretch the field. But his long ball needs to be more accurate (fewer jump balls), and he needs to take advantage of more intermediate passes to open receivers.
 
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BuckyBalls;1202984; said:
I agree that Todd will be a good QB this year. I do think that he has several burners that may fill that bill and stretch the field. But his long ball needs to be more accurate (fewer jump balls), and he needs to take advantage of more intermediate passes to open receivers.
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Yeah, his long balls were kind of hit or miss last year. I remember people saying the coaching staff was telling him to under throw rather than over throw. I'm not sure if that's good advice. Either way, having his two top WRs returning should improve the timing. TB did look more comfortable on intermediate passes in the spring game. He was leaning on Hartline to the point where the D keyed on it and picked him off, but with Robo back in the fall it shouldn't be an issue.
 
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generaladm;1203001; said:
Yeah, his long balls were kind of hit or miss last year. I remember people saying the coaching staff was telling him to under throw rather than over throw. I'm not sure if that's good advice. Either way, having his two top WRs returning should improve the timing. TB did look more comfortable on intermediate passes in the spring game. He was leaning on Hartline to the point where the D keyed on it and picked him off, but with Robo back in the fall it shouldn't be an issue.
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Do you have a favorite for the third WR? I think Washington has a shot but Sanzenbacher has a slight edge. I like the way Washington catches the long ball. Sanzenbacher didn't get many touches on long receptions. I think he missed one in the first game - could have sailed on him or overthrown a bit. I saw him in HS and he dominated all over the field.
 
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BuckyBalls;1203397; said:
Do you have a favorite for the third WR? I think Washington has a shot but Sanzenbacher has a slight edge. I like the way Washinton catches the long ball. Sanzenbacher didn't get many touches on long receptions. I think he missed one in the first game - could have sailed on him or overthrown a bit. I saw him in HS and he dominated all over the field.
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I'm pulling for Washington. I think he's the most complete WR not named Brian. As far as what I was saying about stretching the field, that player doesn't have to be the usual 3rd wide. If they put Flash in for a fly route here and there, the D would be forced to go over/under on him, because if he gets past the safety, it's a quick 6. Saine could also be effective, especially shifting from the backfield to the slot. The thing is that our top two WRs are not speed demons. They are fantastic WRs and can make plays down field, but lack the type of speed that makes DCs roll coverage to them. TWash looks like he's a half step quicker Robo type WR. Most of the real burners are going to be young. That's not a real problem because a go route is an easy read for the QB, if the deep guy gets a step, throw long; if not, someone should be open underneath.
 
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Maybe its just me, but I'd prefer to see more 3 WR sets - in complete honesty, I'd like to be discussing who's more likely to be our 4th WR.

I know we might not be returning to the wide open system we had with Troy- but I'd like to see our athlete's used to their full potential.

Actually, a little run n gun would be nice to use once in a while. 4 WR's and Beanie as a tailback - that gets a lot of defenders out of the box opening up huge holes for our future Heisman winner.

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I think the offensive coaches will open it up a bit this year. Last year we had first year starters at QB, RB, and WR, not the time to get fancy. I'm sure the staff will come up with a system best suited to the personnel. I agree with you on the 4 WR sets, spreading the field with Beanie in should be good for 6-8 yds a pop on runs. That would set up the play-action very well. Another nice set would be 3WR with Beanie and Saine in back, with Saine moving to the slot. People seem to have quickly forgotten how well the spread was used in 06. Everyone likes to use the "Tresselball" label based on the 2001-03 offense, but he was just working with what he had. JT is an old QB and loves to let his QBs shine. Boeckman's showing in camp will determine the passing strategy for the season. With all the weapons available on O, I'm sure the staff is having a great time finding the best ways to utilize them.
 
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Buckeneye;1203444; said:
Maybe its just me, but I'd prefer to see more 3 WR sets - in complete honesty, I'd like to be discussing who's more likely to be our 4th WR.

I know we might not be returning to the wide open system we had with Troy- but I'd like to see our athlete's used to their full potential.

Actually, a little run n gun would be nice to use once in a while. 4 WR's and Beanie as a tailback - that gets a lot of defenders out of the box opening up huge holes for our future Heisman winner.

:oh:
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Could be a good possibility of seeing more 3 WR sets considering FB is not nearly as talented or deep as last year. Who knows, maybe Tress will start using a 2 TE set instead of the I that was seen much of last year.
 
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Boeckman still The Man despite presence of Pryor
BY CHAD FISHER ? News Journal correspondent ? July 11, 2008

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OSU QB Todd Boeckman shared his expertise on Friday at the Lexington Youth Football Camp. (Jason Molyet/NEWS JOURNAL)

LEXINGTON ? Todd Boeckman might wield the lowest profile of any returning All-Big Ten quarterback in Ohio State?s storied football history.

The Buckeyes senior led coach Jim Tressel?s team to a second straight undisputed conference championship and berth in the national title game. Still, his return has been trumped by the arrival of star recruit Terrelle Pryor.

?He?s a great player,? said Boeckman, who spent Friday morning as a counselor at Lexington?s high school football camp.

Pryor was rated the nation?s No. 1 overall recruit, and chose the Buckeyes over Michigan in a monumental recruiting war.

While numerous fans are anxious to see the 6-foot-4, 225-pound Pryor in action, he?ll have to wait his turn behind Boeckman.

The St. Henry graduate is an entirely different player than the athletic Pryor. Boeckman is a pocket passer who completed 191-of-299 passes (64 percent) for 2,379 yards, 25 TDs and 14 interceptions. But his subpar performances in OSU?s last three games, including another blowout loss in the national title game, colored the perception of an otherwise strong season.

?There?s definitely a lot of things we need to work on. Losing the last couple of national championship games that was tough on us,? Boeckman said. ?We can?t turn the ball over and can?t have those dumb penalties we had in the national championship game that really cost us.

?It?s the dumb little things like that that you can?t do in a football game ? the penalties and the mistakes. Because if you make those plays and the other team doesn?t you?re going to win the game.?

This year some have speculated Boeckman will shepherd the team through the rough spots and pave the way for Pryor to get his feet wet with intermittent action, a la Tim Tebow at Florida in 2007.

?(Pryor) obviously has a lot of skills to be a great quarterback ? he can run, he can throw,? Boeckman said. ?There?s a few things he still needs to work on here and there, but hopefully within the next couple weeks and months we can work on those things and help him become a more complete quarterback.?
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Boeckman still The Man despite presence of Pryor | mansfieldnewsjournal.com | Mansfield News Journal
 
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Buckeneye;1203532; said:
I myself would like to see the old T formation... that would be just nightmarish for opposing defenses in the red zone.
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Yeah, that would be F'n sweet. Pryor at QB, Herron at FB, and Beanie and Saine at HB. That's gotta be one of the best backfields in history. Really any kind of option formation with 3-4 of those players would be ridiculous. I hope they throw in the T at least once so we can see the other team panic. :tongue2:

I think 09 would be the year that those kinds of formations become common. Not necessarily the T, but with Pryor, Saine, Herron, Hall, Thomas, and whomever I'm forgetting, the spread option would be deadly.
 
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Ohio State QB Boeckman watching Pryor's moves
Associated Press
July 25, 2008

CHICAGO - Ohio State quarterback Todd Boeckman was on the sideline when Florida's Chris Leak and Tim Tebow carved up Ohio State's defense in the 2007 BCS national championship game. So he knows how deadly a one-two punch at quarterback can be to an opposing defense.

Boeckman, a fifth-year senior and returning starter, also knows he may have to similarly make room for highly touted freshman Terrelle Pryor.

"He's a special player, a special talent," Boeckman said on the second day of the Big Ten pre-season kickoff conference. "I haven't seen what he can do on the field, so we're looking forward to seeing what he can do on Aug. 4."

Ohio State coach Jim Tressel landed perhaps the top recruit in the country in Pryor, a 6-foot-6 dual threat out of Pittsburgh. Pryor could be the second coming of Tebow, the reigning Heisman winner who helped spark the Gators to a blowout win over Ohio State two seasons ago.

But Tressel is confident the reliable Boeckman will lead this team, picked again to win the Big Ten.

"I think Ohio State is important to him and he's going to lay it on the line for Ohio State," Tressel said. "He did it as an 18-year-old and he's doing now as a 35-year-old, or whatever he is. That's why you root for him so hard."

Boeckman came out of tiny St. Henry in western Ohio, a football powerhouse in a town of just over 2,000 people. Tressel said they initially offered him a scholarship before his junior year, in the summer of 2002, but later pulled back to pursue Brady Quinn, the Columbus, Ohio, native who ended up at Notre Dame. Boeckman ended up as a "grayshirt," entering school as a part-timer before enrolling full time in the winter of 2004.

His perseverance paid off last season, when he was first-team all-conference, led the Big Ten in passing efficiency and took the Buckeyes to the BCS national championship game in New Orleans. Now he's had an off-season knowing that he's No. 1 on the depth chart and his confidence is growing.

"It's definitely different than last year," Boeckman said. "I'm more confident dealing with my teammates and more confident with my coaches. I think I can speak up and say things after what I've been through."
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Ohio State QB Boeckman watching Pryor's moves -- chicagotribune.com
 
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