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QB Kyle McCord (transfer to Syracuse)

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exhawg said:
Fields also rushed for nearly 500 yards and 10 TD's. There was no way for McCord to match what the 3 previous QB's have done, but I've been wondering if this was supposed to be the beginning of Quinn Ewers era. As an outside observer I feel like we have more talent on offense than the production we're seeing on the field. Maybe it's play calling, but maybe it's the coaches not having enough faith in the QB or the QB not having the ability to let it rip.
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I think that it’s a combination of the QB and the blocking (read: OL + whoever is not getting it done in the blocking game).
 
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Buckeneye said:
Kyle's first year statistical profile is pretty on pace with Stetson Bennett's first year starting at UGA. The conversation around McCord would be far more positive if the one thing he avoided were the unnecessary penalties and turnovers. That is the largest component to this.

Both are game losing, career defining (negative) attributes. Is Rex Grossman remembered for his good plays, or the fact he would make a few nice throws then follow it up with a head-scratching bad decision? Exactly.

Just getting a look at the endzone INT from that boot with the double backside pull, that's an inexcusable throw at any level when you have a bracket on the receiver and DB underneath the throw. It's a half field read on the move, which takes me back to freshman year in highschool. I can still hear coach Ryan's voice yelling at the offense - "IT'S THERE OR IT'S AIR".

We're a breath away from November, that means it's crunch time. The time where the fruit begins to bear from all the work put in. As coach Tressel would say 'the light grows brighter'. I need to see that light slowly grow brighter. Because any more silly throws like that will eventually come back to cost your team.
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That really sums up why I'm a tad concerned...it is November and Kyle has gotten away with some mistakes that could be fatal moving forward. It could be a culmination of factors driving it (star players being hurt on the offense, OL/protection breaking down at crucial times, bad play calls or miscommunication, etc.). Still time to correct it, but that time is running out.

It seems Kyle is having problems processing plays and getting rid of the ball in a safe way the last few games (minus Purdue)...haven't had a chance to rewatch the game, but it seemed like he had adequate time to throw the ball and just looked lost at times for reasons I cannot explain. Plus the penalties. It isn't just the throwing either, it is protecting the ball when he should know he is going down and fumbles it.

This is no sort of Bauserman or Boeckman scenario, but there has to be some incremental improvement in November to achieve the three goals we have every year, or at least most of them...beat ttun (by far #1 to me), win the B1G, and win the national title. Kyle has certainly shown some promise but if he replicates that same performance in Ann Arbor, I highly doubt we win even with the defensive showing we had. I don't think we are talking about turning it completely around, just take care of the football and make a couple more plays...if Egbuka and Hendo are healthy, I think that is more than doable right?
 
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buchtelgrad04 said:
Outside of the number of TD’s, these McCord numbers are very similar to Fields in 2019.
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The season where Fields had 40 passing TDs and 1 interception at the time of the Heisman voting, stats that would have won the trophy in 9 of the last 10 years, but happened to be the same year Joe Burrow had a dream season for LSU?

I’m behind McCord, but I’m not quite buying that comparison.
 
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We spent the last two years watching the highest ever drafted OSU QB and early indications are he will be the best OSU QB in the NFL, ever.

Those are big shoes to fill. McCord isn't Stroud, but some of the comparisons I've seen made to him are absurd. All he's done is win every game he has started. When we needed a game-winning drive in South Bend he delivered. Ask Caleb Williams how easy it was to play there.
 
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I don't want to pile on Kyle because I think he will get better, but that game was the worst performance by an OSU QB since.....


I honestly don't know. Pre-Miller, that's for sure. Maybe Bauserman? What was that QB from St. Henry we had? Boeckman?
 
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BB73 said:
The season where Fields had 40 passing TDs and 1 interception at the time of the Heisman voting, stats that would have won the trophy in 9 of the last 10 years, but happened to be the same year Joe Burrow had a dream season for LSU?

I’m behind McCord, but I’m not quite buying that comparison.
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I didn’t compare the two as players. I just said their passing stats, based on that projection, look very similar.
238 354 67.2 3273 41 3
222 346 64.1 3244 21 5
 
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RB07OSU said:
That really sums up why I'm a tad concerned...it is November and Kyle has gotten away with some mistakes that could be fatal moving forward. It could be a culmination of factors driving it (star players being hurt on the offense, OL/protection breaking down at crucial times, bad play calls or miscommunication, etc.).
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THIS
Missed blocks from the OL and RBs. Running game that struggled early on. Penalties. Ebuka being out. TH being out. Stover injury. Play calling. His grounding penalties is because he had no one to dump the ball off to. And Kyle's own ankle injury that he's had since ND. I think he only threw one pass in the 4th Quarter against Wisky.
Yes, Kyle has made some mistakes mostly with ball security. I'll take a 14 to 3 TD to Int ratio any day. But it's not all on him. Not even close.
 
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buchtelgrad04 said:
I already said the TD’s aren’t close. Thanks for clearing that up. And two more INTs over the course of a full season isn’t a lot at all, not matter how you frame the numbers.
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I’ll admit that the yards per attempt are extremely close, and the completion percentage is in the same ballpark.

Separate from these stats, I’m concerned about his ball security issues. He had no picks against a very good Pedster defense, but if Marv hadn’t drawn a flag on the strip sack TD that was called back, that could have been a different game.

The first pick of the year was on 4th down, and since there was no significant return, it was the same result as an incompletion, I had no problem with him making that throw on 4th down.

Against Wiscy, the first pick in the end zone was probably the worst decision he’s made all year, and took away points, The second pick was trying to hit Marv down the middle, I think it was 1st and 15 after a penalty, and while Stover was open for a short gain he may have gotten greedy and misread the coverage. The Wiscy DB made a heckuva play to pick that off, and the timing hurt since they got the last possession of the half, kicking the FG as the half ended after a great defensive stand.

He also had a lost fumble, which was once again a 4th down play, and as long as Wiscy wasn’t able to scoop it and take off, it was another same-as-an-incompletion play.

The intentional groundings don’t bother me that much, they’ve been situations where the protection wasn’t there, and some where he may have held the ball too long, but they’re really a sack without the defense having a chance to strip the ball and maybe make a huge play.

I’m hoping he doesn’t have any more red zone turnovers, obviously. And I can live with an occasional grounding call as long as the defense doesn’t strip him of the ball, because that’s where disaster looms.

Here’s hoping a combination of Kyle being more careful, Day helping him out with play calls, and some improved OL play can avoid turnovers while still accruing solid passing yardage.
 
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BB73 said:
I’ll admit that the yards per attempt are extremely close, and the completion percentage is in the same ballpark.

Separate from these stats, I’m concerned about his ball security issues. He had no picks against a very good Pedster defense, but if Marv hadn’t drawn a flag on the strip sack TD that was called back, that could have been a different game,

The first pick of the year was on 4th down, and since there was no significant return, it was the same result as an incompletion, I had no problem with him making that throw on 4th down.

Against Wiscy, the first pick in the end zone was probably the worst decision he’s made all year, and took away points, The second pick was trying to hit Marv down the middle, I think it was 1st and 15 after a penalty, and while Stover was open for a short gain he may have gotten greedy and misread the coverage. The Wiscy DB made a heckuva play to pick that off, and the timing hurt since they got the last possession of the half, kicking the FG as the half ended after a great defensive stand.

He also had a lost fumble, which was once again a 4th down play, and as long as Wiscy wasn’t able to scoop it and take off, it was another same-as-an-incompletion play.

The intentional groundings don’t bother me that much, they’ve been situations where the protection wasn’t there, and some where he may have held the ball too long, but they’re really a sack without the defense having a chance to strip the ball and maybe make a huge play.

I’m hoping he doesn’t have any more red zone turnovers, obviously. And I can live with an occasional grounding call as long as the defense doesn’t strip him of the ball, because that’s where disaster looms.

Here’s hoping a combination of Kyle being more careful, Day helping him out with play calls, and some improved OL play can avoid turnovers while still accruing solid passing yardage.
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Well stated.

For a cadaver.
 
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