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Zurp
I have misplaced my pants.
Let's play a game.
QB#1 - 148 for 249 (59.4%), 2110 yards, 12 touchdowns, 7 interceptions
QB#2 - 80 for 172 (46.5%), 984 yards, 10 touchdowns, 2 interception
QB#3 - 191 for 299 (63.9%), 2379 yards, 25 touchdowns, 14 interceptions
QB#4 - 222 for 347 (64.1%), 3244 yards, 21 touchdowns, 5 interceptions
QB#5 - 209 for 346 (60.4%), 3108 yards, 24 touchdowns, 7 interceptions
QB#6 - 131 for 247 (53.0%), 2132 yards, 11 touchdowns, 8 interceptions
So one of those guys is Joe Germaine in 1998, one is Craig Krenzel in 2002, one is Joe Bauserman in 2011 (I doubled each of his stats because he only played in 6 games), one is Kyle McCord this year (I multiplied his states by 12/8, because he's only played in 8 games this year), one is Steve Bellisari in 2001 (I multiplied his stats by 12/9, because he only played in 9 games that year), and one is Todd Boeckman in 2007.
1. Which guy do you want leading your team?
2. Who is who?
I'm convinced that some people are spoiled by a series of incredible quarterbacks, and you're not going to be happy with anyone. Punch yourself in the nuts if you think I'm talking about you.
QB#1 - 148 for 249 (59.4%), 2110 yards, 12 touchdowns, 7 interceptions
QB#2 - 80 for 172 (46.5%), 984 yards, 10 touchdowns, 2 interception
QB#3 - 191 for 299 (63.9%), 2379 yards, 25 touchdowns, 14 interceptions
QB#4 - 222 for 347 (64.1%), 3244 yards, 21 touchdowns, 5 interceptions
QB#5 - 209 for 346 (60.4%), 3108 yards, 24 touchdowns, 7 interceptions
QB#6 - 131 for 247 (53.0%), 2132 yards, 11 touchdowns, 8 interceptions
So one of those guys is Joe Germaine in 1998, one is Craig Krenzel in 2002, one is Joe Bauserman in 2011 (I doubled each of his stats because he only played in 6 games), one is Kyle McCord this year (I multiplied his states by 12/8, because he's only played in 8 games this year), one is Steve Bellisari in 2001 (I multiplied his stats by 12/9, because he only played in 9 games that year), and one is Todd Boeckman in 2007.
1. Which guy do you want leading your team?
2. Who is who?
QB#1 is Krenzel in 2002
QB#2 is Bauserman in 2011 (stats doubled)
QB#3 is Boeckman in 2007
QB#4 is Kyle McCord this year (shifted stats to 12 games)
QB#5 is Joe Germaine in 1998
QB#6 is Bellisari in 2001 (shifted stats to 12 games)
QB#2 is Bauserman in 2011 (stats doubled)
QB#3 is Boeckman in 2007
QB#4 is Kyle McCord this year (shifted stats to 12 games)
QB#5 is Joe Germaine in 1998
QB#6 is Bellisari in 2001 (shifted stats to 12 games)
I'm convinced that some people are spoiled by a series of incredible quarterbacks, and you're not going to be happy with anyone. Punch yourself in the nuts if you think I'm talking about you.
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sg86
Heisman
He's in his own head. Any time they're moving fast, he looks sharp and in rhythm. When Day slows things down, Kyle thinks too much.
Staff isn't doing him any favors because I've seen multiple instances where the play is not getting to him fast enough and he's panicking because there's not enough time left on the play clock. He was very visibly frustrated several times on Saturday with getting calls late.
Staff isn't doing him any favors because I've seen multiple instances where the play is not getting to him fast enough and he's panicking because there's not enough time left on the play clock. He was very visibly frustrated several times on Saturday with getting calls late.
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They need to give the kid a break. He's been without much of a running game mostly, hasn't had Egbuka consistently either. Yes, he throws some wild passes once in a while. Could he take or use a huge step forward? Of course.
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Zurp
I have misplaced my pants.
I agree. Notice that I didn't even look up Stroud's or Haskins's or Fields's numbers. It's not fair to hold anyone to their standard.
I compared him to other quarterbacks who have been "good" (and some who weren't so good).
Get that running game going, somehow. I had a manager who would say, "Don't come to me with problems - come to me with solutions to those problems." Sorry - I don't have a solution on how to get the running game going smoothly. But if someone on the staff can figure it out, complaints about the rest of the offense will go away (mostly).
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Exactly. If 32 can become consistent at 4-5 yards per carry average that's all we would need as long as he is starting and finishing every game.
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I’m happy to say I figured out all 6 before looking anything up. The tough part was convincing myself that the worst completion percentage was Bauserman since there would only be 1 interception before the stats were doubled. But I knew Boeckman had the most picks and I knew McCord is currently at 14/3 TDs/picks. After that the other 3 slotted logically.
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scarletngray
Gold Pants
Concerned about Kyle's ankle injury. Hoping he can rest it, treat it and get healed up this week. A strong running game against Rutgers will also do wonders so we do not have to rely too much on the passing game. Thankfully we have seen a marked improvement in the run game over the past three weeks. A healthy TH was a breath of fresh air this past Saturday.
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I'm not down and out on McCord at all. Fans are overreacting based on being spoiled by Haskins, Fields and Stroud. And if we go to recent memory, Stroud didn't have a hot start either. He did have an epic final drive against ND and I think the physical talent is there to be really good...not as good as Haskins, Fields and Stroud, but close enough to win big games.
But I was hoping he would be a tad further along by now and mostly just limiting bad decisions and being more assertive. I can think of 3-4 passes that should have been intercepted that we lucked out on, and when that is not happening I see Kyle hanging onto the ball too long a lot of times. Frankly I see McCord and Day butting heads constantly and not being on the same page, so some of that could be coaching. Either way, we are heading into November and all of that needs fixed. It is great that we have the biggest cheat code known to man in Marvin Harrison Jr., but even that button can only be hit so often.
Good news is that there is no talent deficit with McCord...if he develops into a leader, gets comfortable in the offense, and is more decisive (and I mean marginally, he isn't far off), he will work out just fine. Just getting to crunch time in November though, so I am hoping to see all of that soon.
But I was hoping he would be a tad further along by now and mostly just limiting bad decisions and being more assertive. I can think of 3-4 passes that should have been intercepted that we lucked out on, and when that is not happening I see Kyle hanging onto the ball too long a lot of times. Frankly I see McCord and Day butting heads constantly and not being on the same page, so some of that could be coaching. Either way, we are heading into November and all of that needs fixed. It is great that we have the biggest cheat code known to man in Marvin Harrison Jr., but even that button can only be hit so often.
Good news is that there is no talent deficit with McCord...if he develops into a leader, gets comfortable in the offense, and is more decisive (and I mean marginally, he isn't far off), he will work out just fine. Just getting to crunch time in November though, so I am hoping to see all of that soon.
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scarletngray
Gold Pants
One thing that could help Kyle is making sure he has an outlet to throw to. Empty back fields are not his friend right now and most, if not all of the grounding penalties, were because he couldn't dump the ball off to someone. A positive example of this is when he was under pressure and he dumped the ball off to Chip in the flat and Chip made a great play to get a first down.
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RugbyBuck
Our church has no bells.
I'm wondering how this season affects Brown. Clearly, Kyle won't be leaving for the pros after one starter season. If Brown stays, I think we see he and Lincoln go at it the following spring/summer and, sight unseen, I see this one going to the younger QB.
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Buckeneye
I lead, you follow.
Kyle's first year statistical profile is pretty on pace with Stetson Bennett's first year starting at UGA. The conversation around McCord would be far more positive if the one thing he avoided were the unnecessary penalties and turnovers. That is the largest component to this.
Both are game losing, career defining (negative) attributes. Is Rex Grossman remembered for his good plays, or the fact he would make a few nice throws then follow it up with a head-scratching bad decision? Exactly.
Just getting a look at the endzone INT from that boot with the double backside pull, that's an inexcusable throw at any level when you have a bracket on the receiver and DB underneath the throw. It's a half field read on the move, which takes me back to freshman year in highschool. I can still hear coach Ryan's voice yelling at the offense - "IT'S THERE OR IT'S AIR".
We're a breath away from November, that means it's crunch time. The time where the fruit begins to bear from all the work put in. As coach Tressel would say 'the light grows brighter'. I need to see that light slowly grow brighter. Because any more silly throws like that will eventually come back to cost your team.
Both are game losing, career defining (negative) attributes. Is Rex Grossman remembered for his good plays, or the fact he would make a few nice throws then follow it up with a head-scratching bad decision? Exactly.
Just getting a look at the endzone INT from that boot with the double backside pull, that's an inexcusable throw at any level when you have a bracket on the receiver and DB underneath the throw. It's a half field read on the move, which takes me back to freshman year in highschool. I can still hear coach Ryan's voice yelling at the offense - "IT'S THERE OR IT'S AIR".
We're a breath away from November, that means it's crunch time. The time where the fruit begins to bear from all the work put in. As coach Tressel would say 'the light grows brighter'. I need to see that light slowly grow brighter. Because any more silly throws like that will eventually come back to cost your team.
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Fields also rushed for nearly 500 yards and 10 TD's. There was no way for McCord to match what the 3 previous QB's have done, but I've been wondering if this was supposed to be the beginning of Quinn Ewers era. As an outside observer I feel like we have more talent on offense than the production we're seeing on the field. Maybe it's play calling, but maybe it's the coaches not having enough faith in the QB or the QB not having the ability to let it rip.
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