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Captain Buckeye
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Sheesh... tons of out routes and touch passes.
Literally has very little leg up on the other QBS.
This is where not letting the backups execute the offense comes back to bite you.
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Captain Buckeye
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I've got to be honest...
I don't have the same feeling as I did with Haskins/Burrow/Fields/Stroud.
I'm a bit more worried this time around because Brown has no experience and McCord hasn't shown much. In fact McCord had a tendency to throw INTs in limited action too.
Wish we could go get the kid from North Carolina personally.
I don't have the same feeling as I did with Haskins/Burrow/Fields/Stroud.
I'm a bit more worried this time around because Brown has no experience and McCord hasn't shown much. In fact McCord had a tendency to throw INTs in limited action too.
Wish we could go get the kid from North Carolina personally.
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One thing I trust Day (and Dennis) on unequivocally, is identifying and developing QB talent.
If he gets good OL play/pass pro I have no reason to doubt McCord can be good or better as a first year starter.
If he gets good OL play/pass pro I have no reason to doubt McCord can be good or better as a first year starter.
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OHSportsFan
Fan of Ohio Sports in Indy
I trust Day here but eventually the bar will be too high and we’ll actually get “average” play. Hope it ain’t anytime soon though.
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1926Buckeyes
Head Coach
I rarely have a feeling before they start. Saw that Haskins had the arm and Stroud a quick release in the spring game. McCord has plenty of arm and not sure about Brown.
With limited action to go on, I think McCord will be more likely to take a few chances, but might be quicker to pull the trigger. There's give and take with that, but Stroud seemed to hesitate at times this season and if McCord has a more aggressive attitude it's not necessarily a bad thing.
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Brown has the exact amount of experience as Stroud had going into 2021...1 rushing attempt.
I have my concerns about Ryan Day, but finding/developing a qb isn't one of them.
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McCord looks like he will be just fine. He actually looks a lot like CJ and maybe runs a tad better. I don't know if he's as cool a customer as CJ is, but few are.
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scarletngray
Gold Pants
These are Freshman highlights. He will be a Junior and much more developed and familiar with the Offense.
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Captain Buckeye
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This is why we should be throwing the ball with the back ups though. Be a ton easier to know if they have it if the players ball out infront of 106k.
McCord handing the ball off for 2 years did no favors to his development.
McCord handing the ball off for 2 years did no favors to his development.
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If you look at their HS highlights side by side, Stroud was a much better runner. Let's not forget about Stroud's long TD run as a frosh. McCord probably won't have many long runs, but he'll move the pocket and gain some yards when they're available.
Like @NFBuck said, I'm not worried about QBs under Day. Sitting the last 2yrs and watching Stroud, the good and the bad, I think will help him in the long run. He hasn't played in front of 100k+, but he's been in uniform in front of a crowd like that, and he was able to take in the energy and pressure of it. He's also traveled to the same hostile environments where he'll be tasked with playing next season. He's witnessed 2 straight scUM losses first hand, and also the pressure of playing against Ped St at home and in unHappy Valley. I think being in those environments will give him the slight edge over Brown. Though again, I'm fine with either leading the team, and the margin between the 2 is razor thin. But not getting rattled in hostile territories is also to be considered
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Onebuckfan
classof76
One thing for sure Day casts his lot with one QB he won’t waffle. He has a clear pecking order ..if McCord is number 1 he’s taking all the playtime unless he’s hurt. The #2 plays with backups and runs a vanilla offense.
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I've been thinking about our QB play a bit since yesterday. Under Ryan Day, I'd say our QB play has been, arguably, the best in the country. It almost seems like a "plug and play" position. Each QB who has been under his tutelage has been among the best in the nation. Looking back on the last two decades, this is a luxury we may be overlooking as it's come to be expected. Breaking down QB play over the last two decades, it's pretty striking how it's improved.
Jim Tressel era (2001-2010)
Jim Tressel era (2001-2010)
- Steve Bellisari - Moving on...
- Craig Krenzel - Krenzel may have been the gutsiest QB we've seen in Columbus. He was nowhere near the most talented, but he had a knack for making big plays in big moments, be it with his arm or legs. His stats were never flashy (2110 yp, 12/7 td/int in 2002; 2040 yp, 15/10 in 2003), but he won a lot of games, though with the aid of strong defenses and an excellent run game in 2002.
- Justin Zwick - Zwick was a touted recruit and by the time the job was handed over to him in 2004, expectations were high. Unfortunately for JZ, by the time he stepped into the role, underwhelming recruiting and the Clarett debacle left tOSU pretty weak at the skill positions to help him out. He was bad in 2004, eventually losing the job to one Troy Smith. Smith's off field issues led him back to the starting job for parts of early 2005 and he again struggled, finally ceding the job permanently to Troy after a few games.
- Troy Smith - "Spread Offense" was one of the preeminent CFB buzz words of the mid 2000s. Troy's athleticism and strong arm finally gave tOSU the QB to begin to implement some spread flavor to their stodgy early 2000s offense. Troy took over late in the 2004 season and planted the seeds for his legendary career against scUM that year. Disciplinary issues knocked him off track for the early part of 2005, but by the time November rolled around, Troy had the offense clicking and he finished off the year with elite performances against scUM and ND in the Fiesta Bowl. 2006 began with sky high expectations and the offense was excellent (for the era) and Troy won the Heisman Trophy. Unfortunately, the Bucks would run into a buzzsaw in the Gators, whose front seven overwhelmed the Buckeye OL with their speed/athleticism.
- Todd Boeckman - Many people may forget how well Boeckman was playing for the first 2/3 of 2007. He was actually garnering some Heisman hype in October of that year as the Buckeyes got off to a surprisingly good start in what was supposed to be a bit of a rebuilding year reaching #1 in the polls in mid-October. Unfortunately, his physical limitations would catch up and he struggled over the last few weeks that year. He'd remain the starter to begin 2008, but after being slaughtered by USC early that year, he'd step aside for the next guy, maybe the most hyped recruit in tOSU history...
- Terrelle Pryor - Pryor was a gifted athlete, but came in pretty raw as a passer. Tressel seeing that the 2008 team was going nowhere with the limited Todd Boeckman, handed the job over to his prized recruit early on. His rawness as a passer was very obvious, but his ability to make plays with his legs (and at times his arm) salvaged a decent season for the Buckeyes. He improved a bit as a passer in 2009 (2094 yp, 18/11), but there was still obviously work to do. The defense helped carry them to an 11-2 season, but by the time the Rose Bowl rolled around, his improvement as a passer was becoming evident. In 2010, Pryor proved to be pretty dynamic with both his arm (2772 yp, 27/11) and legs leading the Bucks to a 12-1 record and a win over Arkansas in the Sugar Bowl. Unfortunately, we all know what happened next...
- The Buckeyes looked poised for a NC run in 2011 with a ton of talent slated to return on both sides of the ball coming off a 12-1 season. Then Tat-Gate hit, key players were suspended, and Terrelle Pryor left under a groundswell of controversy,
- Joe Bauserman - Braxton Miller was a touted recruit, but was maybe even more raw than Pryor as a passer. With that, the Buckeyes turned to veteran Joe Bauserman to lead them in 2011. He was...not good. As the offense stumbled, a change was made with an eye to the future...
- Braxton Miller - The offense never really got going as Miller's limitations as a passer at this stage limited what they could do. That said, he still showed flashes of what he was capable of with his arm and was dynamic on the run.
- Braxton Miller - Brax improved as a passer (2039 yp, 15/6) in 2012, but was a true weapon with his legs in Urban Meyer's dynamic spread offense with Tom Herman calling plays. 2013 brought the most dynamic offense in program history to that point, with Brax being solid throwing (2094 yp, 24/7) and remaining a threat with his legs. Kenny Guiton was excellent in relief for a few games when Miller was injured.
- JT Barrett - Barrett went on to rewrite the B1G offensive record books over his four seasons. He was outstanding as a Redshirt Freshman in 2014 before getting hurt in The Game. 2015 would be a lost year as Tom Herman left for a HC job leaving play calling to the much maligned Tim Beck and Peter Principled Ed Warriner. Barrett was solid, if unspectacular in 2016 (2555 yp, 24/7) but would take his game to another level under Ryan Day's tutelage in 2017 (3053 yp, 35/9) and graduated holding virtually every major tOSU and B1G passing record.
- Cardale Jones - You have to put "12 Gauge" in here. After Barrett's injury, Cardale would take over and have two tremendous games in the Buck's highly improbable run to the NC in 2014. He would remain the starter in 2015, but was undermined by terrible game plans/play calling by Tim Beck and Ed Warriner. He'd lose the job in October of 2015 back to Barrett and head to the NFL.
- Dwayne Haskins - Simba was unbelievable in 2018. He set virtually every single season passing record in tOSU history, finishing with 4831 yards and a 50/8 TD/INT ratio on his way to a New York for the Heisiman Trophy Presentation. Unfortunately, we'd only get one year of DH7.
- Justin Fields - One of the top recruits in the country in 2018 decided to transfer to tOSU and would not disappoint leading the Bucks to the CFP both of his years as a starter. Dynamic as a passer and dangerous with his legs, he would be a Heisman Finalist in 2019 (3273 yp, 41/3) and remained strong in the COVID shortened 2020 season (2100 yp, 22/6).
- C.J. Stroud - Stroud's tenure is a complicated one. Statistically, he was one of the best to ever play here and he had a number of absolutely awe-inspiring performances. He won a lot of games, but unfortunately for him, his 0-2 record in The Game will be a huge part of his legacy. His finale was a gutsy, terrific performance against UGA where unfortunately he came up short, largely due to another subpar defensive performance...a recurring theme during his tenure.
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