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QB Kirk Herbstreit (Frosted Quips)

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Buckeye86;2028723; said:
ESPN's contract with the B10, and therefore their ability to make a lot of money off of the conference, expired in 2007.

Is it a coincidence that that is the EXACT year that the B10 became "terrible" on the national stage according to you despite comparable bowl records and all of the other things that everyone else in this entire thread has continuously been pointing out.
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If the product on the field hadn't fallen off a cliff in January 2007 then I'd buy your argument.
ESPN has some power, but they don't recruit, coach, and play the games...
If the B1G wants respect from ESPN et all, then WIN.
 
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strohs;2028730; said:
If the product on the field hadn't fallen off a cliff in January 2007 then I'd buy your argument.
ESPN has some power, but they don't recruit, coach, and play the games...
If the B1G wants respect from ESPN et all, then WIN.
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... and there's all the evidence you need for the B1G needing tsun to get back on its feet. Like it or not, it is about marketability. It will take 50 years of Northwestern going 11-2 before they are marketable... 100 for Illinois and 200 for Indiana and Purdont.

If the leagues marque teams are off, the impression of the national audience believes that the entire league is down... and that's just chum for ESPiN.
 
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Buckeye86;2028723; said:
ESPN's contract with the B10, and therefore their ability to make a lot of money off of the conference, expired in 2007.

Is it a coincidence that that is the EXACT year that the B10 became "terrible" on the national stage according to you despite comparable bowl records and all of the other things that everyone else in this entire thread has continuously been pointing out.

Try to keep up.
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And when KH was killing OSU in 2004 over Tressel's offense (to paraphrase: I wouldn't send my sons to play in that offense - and as an aside this is the one comment that KH said which I have reviled) what was the reason? When the network was going talking ad nauseum about the Troy Smith suspension in 2004 what was the reason? What about Mark May and Trev Alberts in 2002 who used to mock OSU every single week about how bad the team was and how they aren't national title worth? What was the reason? 2002 was the Big 10's best year in the past decade and ESPN still dogged OSU non-stop.

This all predates your 2007 contract issue that you ascribe for all for all of the ESPN bs. Sorry to point out the fallacy in your argument. Though I do agree a high level of vitriol can be traced to the network issue, KH is all hyperbole - always has, always will. The only difference is which conference is winning championships and getting the good pub.

As you say... try to keep up since you clearly like to forget anything pre Jan 2007 in an effort to justify your position.
 
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Was the Big Ten expansion and Championship game good for national perception?
It won't look like that after Saturday.
No Big Ten teams in the top 10. Maybe none in the top 15!
And we can't expect ESPiN and it's zombie sportscasters to start talking about how tough the Big is now.
Won't happen.
We won't see another national championship team from the Big unless there's playoff. (now if a certain big name coach comes to the Buckeyes things could change, but I won't get excited about that until he's actually named coach.)
 
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I'm past giving a shit about what he says. He's an ESPN guy, not an Ohio State guy. That's where his loyalties have been for years. If he weren't a former captain with a former cheerleader wife (blah, blah, blah), then nobody would even care. So let's just pretend he's not a Buckeye and I'm sure the angst can start to dissipate.
 
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