QB Kirk Herbstreit (Frosted Quips)

[sparcboxbuck]

I agree with this. Whoever brought up that Herbie's statement was true is entirely missing the point.

While something may be 100% true, it is only those without a filter who blurt out facts when they are not relevant.


Didn't see his comments although I did see some of Game Day for the first time in years because I was stuck at the car dealership getting a part (and free wash ) but feel free to substitute 'with an agenda' for 'without a filter' and the statement stands.

 

[Saw31]

Quit watching ESPN people. We have the BTN and that's who you should be supporting.

 

[Merih]

Quit watching ESPN people. We have the BTN and that's who you should be supporting.

It's like choosing between the Mega Evil Corporation versus the terribly done student TV channel.

The announcers and commentators on the B1G Network as sooooooooooooo bad.

 

[buckeyesin07]

It's like choosing between the Mega Evil Corporation versus the terribly done student TV channel.

The announcers and commentators on the B1G Network as sooooooooooooo bad.

I agree with this. I want so badly to really like the BTN, but man do the commentators and production teams make a lot of mistakes.

 

[Bucklion]

I agree with this. I want so badly to really like the BTN, but man do the commentators and production teams make a lot of mistakes.

They had today spelled "toiday" on one of their graphics during the game...I mean it;s nothing major, but it doesn't say much about the production value.

 

[ysubuck]

And watch Herbie & Fowler DROP osu in the post-bowl polls

Yeah. I'll never forgive him for that one. And then he didn't even man up and take ownership of it.

 

[buckeyesin07]

They had today spelled "toiday" on one of their graphics during the game...I mean it;s nothing major, but it doesn't say much about the production value.

As I said in the game thread, on Brax's long TD run, one of the announcers said it was 3rd down, and he said it at least twice. It was in fact 2nd down, the announcer not accounting for the fact that 2nd down was replayed due to a penalty on OSU. Again, not a huge deal, except the announcer went further by talking about what a call it was to do that QB draw on 3rd and 12.

 

[matcar]

so you're telling me that Alabama fans used to get worked up when Michigan-Iowa was on TV in the early 2000s? I'm guessing they didn't even know it was on TV most years.

I second 27's notion that being true doesn't make it relevant. Hoke's voice blindsides you the first time you hear it, but it doesn't mean it belongs in the conversation Herbie is having.

That is if he's actually breaking down CFB objectively, rather than the alternative.

I think the larger point is relevant that Michigan v Iowa is crickets nowadays and no I don't believe it was always that way. I have no idea if there is an agenda behind his statement or if it's just fluff designed to piss people off and generate ratings. Nor do I care really....I really just want Ohio State to win games each Saturday and he doesn't have anything to do with that anymore. Meanwhile the changing dynamic and demographics of college football might be of mild interest and water cooler fodder, but just give me a game like today and I really don't care what any talking head has to say.

 

[jwinslow]

I think the larger point is relevant that Michigan v Iowa is crickets nowadays and no I don't believe it was always that way.

When was the last time it was regularly compelling? That's what's so confusing about his dig.

 

[woofermazing]

When was the last time it was regularly compelling? That's what's so confusing about his dig.

He has an IQ of 48.

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[Steve19]

100% disagree. Many people are tired of the constant bitching about anything Herbie says...

Perhaps, but many more are sick and tired of hearing Kirk Herbstreit, a former Ohio State quarterback with such modest achievements, constantly beat down Ohio State and the B1G.

I guess the question to ask oneself is, "Are Herbstreit's observations factual or not?" The computer ratings don't have the B1G in second place. And there are some teams at the bottom of the league who are having multiple bad years, but it's nothing like a historic down year for the league either. It's an up year for the Big 12, who have been down for years. Let's see what happens in bowl games.

One also wonders why Herbstreit is silent on the academic performance of the SEC, in whom his employer has a great financial stake. The are crowing about having doubled their AAU schools to 4, when the B1G would consider that an admission criteria. If Ohio State had not had its early season problems, the accomplishments of the B1G would be much more flattering.

But we should never lose sight of the fact that college athletics are about university degrees and accomplishments. The Ohio State University may be the premier program in combining athletic achievement and academic performance. That is the primary goal and I am very proud of what they accomplish, as an alumni.

So, perhaps many people are tired of hearing criticism of Herbstreit. But many more are tired of hearing his unfair comments.

"I'm Kirk Herbstreit and I am very comfortable in my own skin." Really? Well then, sweetheart, why are you using all that bronzer?

 

[OSU_D/]

Perhaps, but many more are sick and tired of hearing Kirk Herbstreit, a former Ohio State quarterback with such modest achievements, constantly beat down Ohio State and the B1G.

I guess the question to ask oneself is, "Are Herbstreit's observations factual or not?" The computer ratings don't have the B1G in second place. And there are some teams at the bottom of the league who are having multiple bad years, but it's nothing like a historic down year for the league either. It's an up year for the Big 12, who have been down for years. Let's see what happens in bowl games.

One also wonders why Herbstreit is silent on the academic performance of the SEC, in whom his employer has a great financial stake. The are crowing about having doubled their AAU schools to 4, when the B1G would consider that an admission criteria. If Ohio State had not had its early season problems, the accomplishments of the B1G would be much more flattering.

But we should never lose sight of the fact that college athletics are about university degrees and accomplishments. The Ohio State University may be the premier program in combining athletic achievement and academic performance. That is the primary goal and I am very proud of what they accomplish, as an alumni.

So, perhaps many people are tired of hearing criticism of Herbstreit. But many more are tired of hearing his unfair comments.

"I'm Kirk Herbstreit and I am very comfortable in my own skin." Really? Well then, sweetheart, why are you using all that bronzer?

Can't disagree more. As each year goes by and the Big 10 worsens while the SEC wins another BCSNCG the percentages are changing.

In 2006 KH was practically on his knees in front of the Big 10 and thought there should be a OSU, UM rematch. All of his comments toward OSU and the Big 10 were hyperbole then as they are hyperbole now.

So what's the difference? The other conference is winning. I haven't met a single person in the anti-herbie hyperbole crowd who gave a second thought to the fellatio in 2006. People only care when it is against OSU/Big 10 now.

 

[Steve19]

Can't disagree more. As each year goes by and the Big 10 worsens while the SEC wins another BCSNCG the percentages are changing.

In 2006 KH was practically on his knees in front of the Big 10 and thought there should be a OSU, UM rematch. All of his comments toward OSU and the Big 10 were hyperbole then as they are hyperbole now.

So what's the difference? The other conference is winning. I haven't met a single person in the anti-herbie hyperbole crowd who gave a second thought to the fellatio in 2006. People only care when it is against OSU/Big 10 now.

In 2006, prior to the bowl games, everyone thought that Ohio State and TSUN were the two best teams. Possibly, they were, but neither coach got his team ready on bowl game day. If the SEC is so advanced over the B1G, why don't the overall conference bowl records the last decade support that?

We can go back and cite several examples of Herbstreit's supposed support or lack of support of the Buckeyes. 2003/2004 ring a bell? Oh wait, Herbstreit was strangely silent while ESPN repeated lie after lie after two NCAA investigations.

All of this misses the point.

The point is that Herbstreit is simply reading a script. He's an "entertainer" not a "sports analyst". It isn't his opinion. It's ESPiN's opinion. He says what he is told to say.

Check out the websites of those who have left (e.g., Dan Patrick) and read the stories that they tell. This constant harping against the B1G is meant to discourage recruits from considering B1G schools. The reason why is because it is in ESPiN's interest that the SEC and Big 12 do well.

For Herbstreit and ESPiN, it's business.

For most Buckeye fans, someone that they once respected despite his modest accomplishments at Ohio State, is now irrelevant.

ESPiN "talent" tell the public what their told to tell us. The problem that Buckeye fans have with Herbstreit is that, for a paycheck, he is willing to play out that script when he often knows that what he is saying isn't true or is, at the very least, much exaggerated.

 

[Buckeye86]

In 2006 KH was practically on his knees in front of the Big 10 and thought there should be a OSU, UM rematch. All of his comments toward OSU and the Big 10 were hyperbole then as they are hyperbole now.

So what's the difference? The other conference is winning. I haven't met a single person in the anti-herbie hyperbole crowd who gave a second thought to the fellatio in 2006. People only care when it is against OSU/Big 10 now.

ESPN's contract with the B10, and therefore their ability to make a lot of money off of the conference, expired in 2007.

Is it a coincidence that that is the EXACT year that the B10 became "terrible" on the national stage according to you despite comparable bowl records and all of the other things that everyone else in this entire thread has continuously been pointing out.

Try to keep up.

 

[sparcboxbuck]

Check out the websites of those who have left (e.g., Dan Patrick) and read the stories that they tell. This constant harping against the B1G is meant to discourage recruits from considering B1G schools.

Greenies for anyone with said linky...