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OSU Wrestling (2008 and 2009 NCAA Runners-up)

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I don't understand scoring.... but I lifted this from a Hawkeye wrestling forum. This is from their point of view and it seems like they left out Pucillo.

Dennis can add a point with a victory.
M*, Erekson, and Keddy can each add 4.5 points with 3rd place finishes = 13.5
Metcalf will add 4 with a victory.
That's 18.5 points up for grabs (plus any bonus points for MD, TF, or Fall)
Let's say we make things happen and collect 18.5 points - that gives us 15 point lead. Assume Palmer takes 3rd (4.5) and Humph and Jaggers win (8), that still would leave us with 2.5 point lead...and the team title. Oh how the tenor on this board would change with those results..
 
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OSU_D/;1434632; said:
I don't understand scoring.... but I lifted this from a Hawkeye wrestling forum. This is from their point of view and it seems like they left out Pucillo.

Dennis can add a point with a victory.
M*, Erekson, and Keddy can each add 4.5 points with 3rd place finishes = 13.5
Metcalf will add 4 with a victory.
That's 18.5 points up for grabs (plus any bonus points for MD, TF, or Fall)
Let's say we make things happen and collect 18.5 points - that gives us 15 point lead. Assume Palmer takes 3rd (4.5) and Humph and Jaggers win (8), that still would leave us with 2.5 point lead...and the team title. Oh how the tenor on this board would change with those results..
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Dennis apparently is going to get that point by default tomorrow.
 
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brutus2002;1434641; said:
So thats the best case scenario for Iowa...What the best case scenario for OSU...
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Like I said I don't understand scoring. If I find OSU scoring scenarios i will definitely post/link.
It seems as though a win in the finals is 4 pts. Because of winning 2x in consolation for 3rd nets 4.5. For us I hope Jaggers and Humph can get 8, I don't see Pucillo winning, and Palmer getting 3rd gets us that 12.5 giving us a 15 point lead. I wouldn't be against Metcalf (down to 11) so it rests on whether or not their 3 guys in the 3-6 range get more thirds or more 6's. Of course bonus points can be earned by the type of decision.

Here is another scenario from an Iowa board...

Let's just say Jaggers wins, Hump gets beat, and Pucillo will lose to Herbert, and Palmer gets 3rd that gives OSU another 8.5 or 93 total then the Hawks only need to come up with 12.5 and Metcalf will get 4 of that so M* and Keddy need to get 3rd and we go home National Champs.
 
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I can't exactly lay out the scenarios, but it is razor thin. We always knew it would be tough to beat Iowa, and it still is. We have a 3 point lead, but they have more scoring opportunities. My guess is we need to win 2 of 3 championships (say, Humphrey and Jaggers). Then we need Palmer to finish closer to 3 and further from 6. For Iowa, assuming Metcalf doesn't stumble in the finals, we need one or more of Morningstar, Keddy, and Erecksen to fall closer to 6 than to 3.

To quote YSUBuck, one of our BuckeyePlanet sages, "Wow, just wow!"
 
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ysubuck;1435180; said:
Everyone was talking about Metcalf but Herbert from NW is the guy that impressed me the most last night. That guy is just a machine.
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I agree that one of those two guys should end up as Most Outstanding Wrestler for the NCAAs. Metcalf won it last year, when Herbert wasn't there.

If tOSU doesn't win two of the three championship matches, it will be very tough to hang onto the team lead. Pucillo beating Herbert would be a significant upset, so the Buckeyes probably need Jaggers to win and for Humprhey to flip the result he had with Gomez at the Big Ten Meet two weeks ago.
 
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Current team standings (after Friday):

84.5 - The Ohio State University
81.0 - Iowa
71.5 - Iowa St
69.0 - Nebraska

Iowa's wrestlers:

125 - nobody left

133 - Daniel Dennis has 1 match vs. Baker of Navy for 7th place (1 pt)
- update: Dennis won by forfeit due to an injury to baker in a previous match

141 - nobody left

149 - #1 seed Brent Metcalf is a huge favorite over #3 Darrion Caldwell of NC St for the title (4 points)

157 - nobody left

165 - #3 Ryan Morningstar takes on #4 Moza Fay (UNI), with the winner advancing to the third place match, the loser going to the 5th place match. Those matches will feature the winner and loser of Andrew Rendos (Bucknell) and #8 Jonathan Reader (Iowa St). Two wins would be 4.5 points, 1 win would be about 2 points.
- update: Morningstar defeated Fay 5-3 to advance to the 3rd place match, which he won 7-5 in OT over Reader

174 - nobody left

184 - #2 Philip Keddy takes on #12 Vince Jones (Neb), with the winner advancing to the third place match, the loser going to the 5th place match. Those matches will feature the winner and loser of #7 Doug Umbehauer (Rider) and #9 Joe LeBlanc(Wyo). Two wins would be 4.5 points, 1 win would be about 2 points.
- update: Keddy won 6-1 to advance to the 3rd place match, and then lost to Umbehauer to finish 4th

197 - nobody left

HVY - #7 Daniel Erekson takes on #1 David Zabriskie (Iowa St), with the winner advancing to the third place match, the loser going to the 5th place match. Those matches will feature the winner and loser of #3 Jermail Porter (Kent St) and #4 Jared Rosholt (Okie St). Two wins would be 4.5 points, 1 win would be about 2 points.
- update: Erekson pinned Zabriskie to advance to the 3rd place match, then lost to Rosholt to finish 4th

tOSU's

125 - nobody left

133 - Reece Humphrey takes on #1 seed Franklin Gomez of Mich St for the title (4 pts)

141 - J Jaggers takes on #8 seed Ryan Williams of Old Dominion for the title (4 points)

149 - #4 Lance Palmer takes on #6 Jake Patacsil of Purdue, with the winner advancing to the 3rd place match, the loser going to the 5th place match. Those matches will feature the winner and loser of the match between the #5 (Ruschell, Wiscy) and #7 seeds (Saddoris, Navy) (2 wins are 4.5 points, 1 win is about 2 points)
- update: Palmer beat Patacsil 8-7 to advance to the 3rd place match. Battling a knee injury, he dropped that match to Ruschell, 4-5, to finish in 4th place.

157 - nobody left
165 - nobody left
174 - nobody left

184 - #3 Mike Pucillo (defending champion) takes on #1 and big favorite Jake Herbert of NW'ern, who won the event two years ago and took last year off to try for the Olympics (4 points)

197 - nobody left
HVY - nobody left
 
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Pucillo is very hard to score on. He should keep the match close......let's hope so anyway.

We really need Palmer to place third. Jaggers and Humphrey's can/should get the job done.

Looking forward to seeing our boys excel on the mat today.

GO BUCKS!!

:osu:
 
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After the first set of matches in the wrestleback (consolation) rounds, Iowa won all 4 of their matches, and Palmer won tOSU's only match.

Iowa now has the overall team lead. Each team has 4 matches left. At this point, almost everything wuold have to go tOSU's way to re-take the lead.

96.5 - Iowa
88.0 - tOSU
78.5 - Iowa St

Link
 
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Palmer's wrestling for third place now. He got a takedown and a near fall in the first period, but used injury time due to a problem with his left knee. He's up 4-1 entering the third period, where he'll start on top.

Ruschell got a reversal to make it 4-3 with about 1:30 left. Ruschell with a near fall to take a 4-5 lead.

Palmer went down 5-4, to finish 4th. Congrats to Lance on being an All-American.
 
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Morningstar won his third place match in OT after a late comeback, with two takedowns in the 3rd period, and another in the first period of OT.
 
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