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Ohio State Wrestling (2015/2017/2018 B1G Champs, 2015 National Champs, 2019 National Runners-up)

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And here are the actual seeds just released by the NCAA

125 - 1
133 - 10
141 - 6 (was off by one)
149 - N/A
157 - unseeded
165 - 3
174 - 11 (was off by 4)
184 - unseeded
197 - N/A
285 - 2

Nato gets Gilman in his half of the bracket. JDJ faces his old nemesis Clark in a possible quarter final assuming he can get past the first two guys. Micah has Jack and Mckenna in his half of the bracket but there are no easy draws at 141. Jake Ryan will face JoJo Smith in his first match. Don't see him winning that. Bo and Isaac in the same half. Myles Martin ended up avoiding Bo Nickal and has Butler and Realbuto in his half. Courts opens with Blake Stauffer and I don't see him winning that match. Snyder got the 2 seed and would meet Ty Waltz in the semi finals.

http://i.turner.ncaa.com/sites/default/files/images/2016/03/09/2016d1wrestling.pdf
 
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Delaware Buck said:
And here are the actual seeds just released by the NCAA

125 - 1
133 - 10
141 - 6 (was off by one)
149 - N/A
157 - unseeded
165 - 3
174 - 11 (was off by 4)
184 - unseeded
197 - N/A
285 - 2

Nato gets Gilman in his half of the bracket. JDJ faces his old nemesis Clark in a possible quarter final assuming he can get past the first two guys. Micah has Jack and Mckenna in his half of the bracket but there are no easy draws at 141. Jake Ryan will face JoJo Smith in his first match. Don't see him winning that. Bo and Isaac in the same half. Myles Martin ended up avoiding Bo Nickal and has Butler and Realbuto in his half. Courts opens with Blake Stauffer and I don't see him winning that match. Snyder got the 2 seed and would meet Ty Waltz in the semi finals.

http://i.turner.ncaa.com/sites/default/files/images/2016/03/09/2016d1wrestling.pdf
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My breakdown of the brackets (props to @Delaware Buck for being on top of it):

125: Can't disagree here, but beating Gilman in the semi's is probably tougher than beating either of Dance or Megaludis imo. But I believe Toms is the best here and we will be good to get to the finals.
133: Not that I have a ton of faith in Johnny D, but this is a great draw...about the best you could hope for. He needs to beat Montoya in the 2nd but if hes does, that keeps OSU in the discussion near the top imo. And I do think that is possible to get him into the quarters against Clark.
141: Could not have played out better for Mic imo. I like him to get into quarters and honestly, I like him to beat Jack to get into the semis. I think the match with him and McKenna will be a tough one. This weight could go a ton of different ways but I really hope that Mic takes it all the way..its certainly possible if he stays on his attacks.
149: N/A
157: The only weight so far where I feel we got screwed. Really bad first round matchup but I guess his opponent could say the same. We win two matches at this weight and it is a win imo, although I think Ryan has the ability to win 3-4 matches if he wrestles well.
165: Bo vs. Isaac in the semi's most likely, no surprises there. Not sure if Bo can beat Isaac but hopefully he does for the first time because that would be huge points getting into the finals...I know he isn't beating Dieringer if he gets there but the points in getting there are bigger than any points gained by a decision in the finals.
174: Hammond is a tough draw in the second match and so is Butler in the quarters. Martin truly does have the ability to win any match though and I think he has momentum going into this...he pulls some upsets and we are in the top 3 race.
184: Stauffer is a ridiculously tough draw out of the gate but hey, that is what he gets for wrestling so poorly this year. I see it very unlikely that he wins his first match.
197: N/A
285: #2 seed was expected but the match in the semis against Walz could be a dandy. I personally think Snyder will smoke him but Walz could make it close. In the upper bracket, watch out for Coon to get in the semis and give Gwiz a match. But end of the day, I think we are set up for an epic finals match of Gwiz vs. Snyder like all the fans want.

I will loop back and check out how the draws went for the other contenders, but not a bad setup for the Bucks imo.
 
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RB07OSU said:
My breakdown of the brackets (props to @Delaware Buck for being on top of it):

125: Can't disagree here, but beating Gilman in the semi's is probably tougher than beating either of Dance or Megaludis imo. But I believe Toms is the best here and we will be good to get to the finals.
133: Not that I have a ton of faith in Johnny D, but this is a great draw...about the best you could hope for. He needs to beat Montoya in the 2nd but if hes does, that keeps OSU in the discussion near the top imo. And I do think that is possible to get him into the quarters against Clark.
141: Could not have played out better for Mic imo. I like him to get into quarters and honestly, I like him to beat Jack to get into the semis. I think the match with him and McKenna will be a tough one. This weight could go a ton of different ways but I really hope that Mic takes it all the way..its certainly possible if he stays on his attacks.
149: N/A
157: The only weight so far where I feel we got screwed. Really bad first round matchup but I guess his opponent could say the same. We win two matches at this weight and it is a win imo, although I think Ryan has the ability to win 3-4 matches if he wrestles well.
165: Bo vs. Isaac in the semi's most likely, no surprises there. Not sure if Bo can beat Isaac but hopefully he does for the first time because that would be huge points getting into the finals...I know he isn't beating Dieringer if he gets there but the points in getting there are bigger than any points gained by a decision in the finals.
174: Hammond is a tough draw in the second match and so is Butler in the quarters. Martin truly does have the ability to win any match though and I think he has momentum going into this...he pulls some upsets and we are in the top 3 race.
184: Stauffer is a ridiculously tough draw out of the gate but hey, that is what he gets for wrestling so poorly this year. I see it very unlikely that he wins his first match.
197: N/A
285: #2 seed was expected but the match in the semis against Walz could be a dandy. I personally think Snyder will smoke him but Walz could make it close. In the upper bracket, watch out for Coon to get in the semis and give Gwiz a match. But end of the day, I think we are set up for an epic finals match of Gwiz vs. Snyder like all the fans want.

I will loop back and check out how the draws went for the other contenders, but not a bad setup for the Bucks imo.
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I could see both Ryan and Courts going 0-2. You need offense to win matches at this level and Ryan's offense has been declining all year and Courts has shown nothing since getting the AA last year. At this point he may be just happy to have made it back. Watched a couple of Walz matches last night - a few against Coon and one where Gwiz dominated. I think Snyder takes him using the same strategy he's been using.
 
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Delaware Buck said:
I could see both Ryan and Courts going 0-2. You need offense to win matches at this level and Ryan's offense has been declining all year and Courts has shown nothing since getting the AA last year. At this point he may be just happy to have made it back. Watched a couple of Walz matches last night - a few against Coon and one where Gwiz dominated. I think Snyder takes him using the same strategy he's been using.
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Agreed...Ryan has to develop some sort of offense because his defense is deteriorating...his opponent knows he won't attack them. Courts has the skill and I know he has done nothing all year, but that was his story heading into NCAAs last year as well, so I am hoping he can somehow pull off a couple wins. And yes, I absolutely see Snyder beating Walz...leading to an epic showdown at Heavy with Snyder and Gwiz.
 
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RB07OSU said:
Agreed...Ryan has to develop some sort of offense because his defense is deteriorating...his opponent knows he won't attack them. Courts has the skill and I know he has done nothing all year, but that was his story heading into NCAAs last year as well, so I am hoping he can somehow pull off a couple wins. And yes, I absolutely see Snyder beating Walz...leading to an epic showdown at Heavy with Snyder and Gwiz.
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When you see developments like these for Ryan and Courts how much of this is the individual wrestler and how much of it is the coaching/coach's strategy?
 
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OSU_D/ said:
When you see developments like these for Ryan and Courts how much of this is the individual wrestler and how much of it is the coaching/coach's strategy?
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Very, very good question. Wrestling is such an individual sport and after coaching it versus doing it, coaching can be incredibly frustrating because you will teach an aggressive brand of wrestling but not see it translate on the mate quite often. That being said, I think there are two very different things going on with these two:

1) Ryan: Jake has honestly wrestled above and beyond what anyone expected when he came in. I thought he wouldn't even make the tourney this year but he has improved so much. Many guys on the team thought that but he has earned the respect of everyone in the room with his hard work. He needs to get more aggressive with his opponents knowing his game now, but at the end of the day he is much better to score with his defense and counter attacks.

2) Courts: All on him. I don't want to get into specifics but everyone in the room outworks him on a daily basis...I am not surprised at all that he has wrestled like this in '15/'16. Really torn on his overall legacy after he was so instrumental in getting our first title last year but he has been lazy so much of his time here. He used to attack guys in HS but he inexplicably abandoned that when he got to the next level. The staff has tried everything but Courts has not reciprocated.
 
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Cliff Keen Dream Team Classic was tonight and the headline match was Mark Hall vs. Alex Marinelli. Thought it would be a tight one but Hall majored Marinelli 14-5. Hall is just at a different level I guess because even with Marinelli bumping up later in the year, that was not expected at all. Hate to say it but I'm not sure how PSU is even going to be beatable in the upcoming years with Retherford, Nolf, Nickal and Hall having that much eligibility combined...Hall will wrestle right away and likely compete for a title immediately. I realize that is just a list of 4 guys but you know they are going to have others join the fray...and then Rasheed and Nevills are RS Freshman who are going to be really good, plus McCutcheon is a tough sophomore. We will really have to step it up in the next couple years for sure.
 
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RB07OSU said:
Cliff Keen Dream Team Classic was tonight and the headline match was Mark Hall vs. Alex Marinelli. Thought it would be a tight one but Hall majored Marinelli 14-5. Hall is just at a different level I guess because even with Marinelli bumping up later in the year, that was not expected at all. Hate to say it but I'm not sure how PSU is even going to be beatable in the upcoming years with Retherford, Nolf, Nickal and Hall having that much eligibility combined...Hall will wrestle right away and likely compete for a title immediately. I realize that is just a list of 4 guys but you know they are going to have others join the fray...and then Rasheed and Nevills are RS Freshman who are going to be really good, plus McCutcheon is a tough sophomore. We will really have to step it up in the next couple years for sure.
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The only thing that is going to stop them is injuries or Sanderson getting bored and moving on to something else more challenging. Sanderson is recruiting anyone he wants - like Saban and Meyer do in football. They'll get Spencer Lee to verbal over the summer. Teasdale the following year and as you already mentioned they are loaded now and young. I've heard that none of the current kids on their roster are getting above 60% scholarship - including the starters and 1# guys and that these kids are OK with that because it gives them a chance to win both individually and as a team. With 9.9 scholarship you have to stretch the budget as far as possible. If that's the case and they are able to get kids to commit and pay their own way for partial tuition I don't see how anyone is stopping them.
 
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RB07OSU said:
LET'S GET READY TO WRESTTTLLLLEEEE! I am hoping to play the first round in the background at work.
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Most of the boys came to wrestle today! I feel badly for Jake. That would have been a great win to start and he was leading after period 1. He had a mission in mind.

Courts. SMH.

If Myles can pull the upset (11 v 6) in the next round he could be on to something great! Seeds 2 and 3 lost on his side. 4 also lost so Nickal has a free path.

With his first collegiate pin looks like the Buckeyes will have the lead after the first round 16.5, PSU 16.* Let's hope we can keep winning and they start to lose! The asterisk is due to Coach Ryan maybe picking up a 1 pt deduction for misconduct while Jake was wrestling. We might be behind 16 to 15.5. Ohio State Wrestling's twitter feed didn't record the point, nor did ESPN or Track Wrestling.

 
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