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Next Generation Console News: Xbox One, PS4, Wii U

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Buckeneye;2339584; said:
Going back to PC dedicated gaming. Fuck this Sony/MS
Nonsense.
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This question is not to pick a debate but, let me ask you this.(because I really don't know) But, how much would the PC gaming setup cost that would clearly be better overall than the next gen MS/Sony? Much less than the 400-500 dollar mark? More? Equal or there about?
 
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EasternBuck;2342379; said:
This question is not to pick a debate but, let me ask you this.(because I really don't know) But, how much would the PC gaming setup cost that would clearly be better overall than the next gen MS/Sony? Much less than the 400-500 dollar mark? More? Equal or there about?
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Not the person you asked or even going to give you a straightforward answer but here goes...

The difference wouldnt be in the initial price, the difference comes when you dont have to worry about not being able to buy used games, or the advatages that come with having a community of people adding on mods and expansions free of cost, breaking away from some of the monopoly's nevermind the added ability if you chose to access and download pirated music/movies/games/porn free of cost.
 
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EasternBuck;2342379; said:
This question is not to pick a debate but, let me ask you this.(because I really don't know) But, how much would the PC gaming setup cost that would clearly be better overall than the next gen MS/Sony? Much less than the 400-500 dollar mark? More? Equal or there about?
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Depends on your abilities with hardware. I could price out a system very comparable to the $599+tax you'll shell out for a console - then with said system in my hands, tweak and clock to net an additional 15% performance increase without too much work.

That computer system would probably be slightly better than the newest console. Maybe even significantly better, depending on the price point drops with new hardware refreshes.
 
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http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/22/xbox-one-what-we-do-and-dont-know

here's a good breakdown

Does it require an internet connection?
YES. Xbox One will need to connect to the internet every 24 hours in order to let you play games on your primary console. On any other console, it will need to connect to the Internet every hour. Some games and services will require a persistent connection. If you are somewhere without any Internet connection at all, such as a military base, you will NOT be able to use Xbox One. Watching TV or Blu-Ray discs is exempt from this restriction.

Xbox One will need to connect to the Internet to authenticate you and check which games you own as well as connect to the Cloud. Games are tied to your Xbox Live account, so without connecting to the Internet the Xbox One won't be able to verify that you own them. A side-note: as a result, you can play all your games from any Xbox One console.

Can I play my friend's games on my console?
NO, not unless you're signed in as them. Otherwise you will have to buy that game yourself. Even if your friend leaves the disc with you, you can't play it unless you buy it.

The clearest stance on this comes from Eurogamer's interview with Harrison: "I can come to your house and I can put the disc into your machine and I can sign in as me and we can play the game. The bits are on your hard drive. At the end of the play session, when I take my disc home - or even if I leave it with you - if you want to continue to play that game [on your profile] then you have to pay for it. The bits are already on your hard drive, so it's just a question of going to our [online] store and buying the game, and then it's instantly available to play. The bits that are on the disc, I can give to anybody else, but if we both want to play it at the same time, we both have to own it. That's no different to how discs operate today."

Microsoft's Major Nelson (Larry Hyrb) put it this way: "Should you choose to play your game at your friend’s house, there is no fee to play that game while you are signed in to your profile." But then if you go home and leave the disc with your friend, they will have to pay for that game if they want to play it on their own profile.
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Apparently there will be an opportunity to exchange/trade/give a game 1 time without a fee.

Article said:
Microsoft this week finally answered some key questions about how its Xbox One will handle issues such as Internet connectivity and the buying and selling of used games. In terms of used games, Microsoft says that you can buy and sell them through participating retailers or give them to someone who?s been your friend on Xbox Live for more than 30 days. Interestingly, Microsoft says that games may only be given to new users once so it seems that the game will stop working if your friend tries to give it to another friend.

In terms of connectivity, Microsoft says that you?ll have to connect to the Internet once every 24 hours to play games. The reason for this, the company says, is that ?Xbox One is designed to verify if system, application or game updates are needed and to see if you have acquired new games, or resold, traded in, or given your game to a friend.? In other words, Microsoft needs the Xbox One to check in at least once a day to verify whether you or your friends have any games that need to be authorized before you?re allowed to play them.

Microsoft also says that ?loaning or renting games won?t be available at launch, but we are exploring the possibilities with our partners.?
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This is looking pretty crappy. XBOX One seems as though it's totally going to be a "big brother" type of system. It is going to know everything about you: what you play, who your friends are, what you watch, what type of music you like, etc. I might have to avoid this system on principal alone. My kids already mostly play the PS3, so they should be just fine with a PS4.
 
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