Call me crazy, but i see SEC and B1G at this point as NFC/AFC, NL/AL, East/West in NBA and NHL.
Most of our pros have 2 conferences for ~30 teams.
If we're going to 48-64, 2 conferences may not be enough.
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Call me crazy, but i see SEC and B1G at this point as NFC/AFC, NL/AL, East/West in NBA and NHL.
Most of our pros have 2 conferences for ~30 teams.
If we're going to 48-64, 2 conferences may not be enough.
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Birm discusses Ohio State and NIL. He believes a lot is riding on the new AD and President to open up the floodgates of donors giving to NIL instead of the program, because it’s unlikely laws are going to be passed to let the schools get involved directly in paying players (because of antitrust and general incompetence).
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I said this was going to happen almost 10yrs ago and people scoffed at it. But the writing has been on the wall. Players have seen their schools and conferences make billions off of them, and they don't see a dime. But yet they were punished for seeking money from the same local businesses that are now giving them NIL...
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It's also a Title IX nightmare.
If the school pays football players.... let's say 50mil for an 85 man roster... now they also have to pay 50mil to the 60 women rowing team and 25 women soccer team.
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Or the school ditches the women rowing and soccer teams and they become club teams. It sucks, I'm a girldad, and I'd be hurt if my daughters scholarship was taken, but I'm sure schools can find funds to cover the women's teams room and board. But adult conversations need to be had. 100,000k+ aren't filling stadiums to watch women's sports, and heck a bunch of men's sports either. I haven't heard of 100,000 people watching a swim meet or wrestling. The future is staring us in the face, football is going to have to spearate from other collegiate sports, too much money being brought in
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Seems mind boggling that a school with the resources and base that Ohio State has can't put together a more competitive NIL plan. I kind of get not wanting to hand blank checks to recruits, but we aren't exactly crushing it in the transfer portal either.
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That would be a federal court case.
Title IX dictates parity in scholarships. That's the sole reason Bama has a 60 woman rowing team. It's how the USC admissions-gate was able to happen -- why Lori Laughlin was able to get her daughters rowing scholarships despite never rowing a boat and not participating. Because everyone knows they're fake gigs that exist just to check the Title IX box.
If money is coming to the players through the University, that will also have to meet the same criteria.
If money is coming to players from 3rd parties... Title IX can probably be held off.
Though they're already filing lawsuits trying.
Lawsuit with Claim of Unequal Access to NIL Opportunities Raises New Title IX Concerns | Insights | Holland & Knight
A lawsuit puts an Oregon university at the center of a dispute over gender equity in college sports, including with respect to its involvement in name, image and likeness (NIL) benefits.
www.hklaw.com
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Smarter people than me can work out the legalities. But I know that football brings in billions of dollars and women's rowing does not and neither does women's field hockey, etc. But allow those women to earn NIL money(which they can definitely make from 3rd parties). But there are will need to be some type of regulations in place, or the worst possible scenario can take place. And that's foreign entities staking their claim on CFB and no one wants that. And no matter how Murican' some schools want to be. If a Saudi prince or Sultan starts throwing his own millions behind programs of their choice, then we're all screwed. But will Congress step in and really care is the question?That would be a federal court case.
Title IX dictates parity in scholarships. That's the sole reason Bama has a 60 woman rowing team. It's how the USC admissions-gate was able to happen -- why Lori Laughlin was able to get her daughters rowing scholarships despite never rowing a boat and not participating. Because everyone knows they're fake gigs that exist just to check the Title IX box.
If money is coming to the players through the University, that will also have to meet the same criteria.
If money is coming to players from 3rd parties... Title IX can probably be held off.
Though they're already filing lawsuits trying.
Lawsuit with Claim of Unequal Access to NIL Opportunities Raises New Title IX Concerns | Insights | Holland & Knight
A lawsuit puts an Oregon university at the center of a dispute over gender equity in college sports, including with respect to its involvement in name, image and likeness (NIL) benefits.www.hklaw.com
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We're not talking about NIL money.
We're talking about payments direct from University.
I understand your argument, but im not discussing how things should be. Im pointing out how they are. If we were in a different part of the forum, id probably be sprinkling in remarks from a certain candidate that wants to delete the DOE.
Title IX is very straightforward about its approach, regardless of how we feel about it.
If you pay 85 men, you must pay 85 women the exact same amount.
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But what if they are men that "identify" as women?
Yesss. Now we're thinking. There's no mens/womens football. Just football.
We need 43 scholarships to identify as women, and it's all good.
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osubartender23
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Heck, just have the entire team identify as “they/them” and see how the title. 9 people handle that!
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You guys keep this shit up and Dubs will be in here and all sorts of memes and weird X shit will get posted. Then someone will have to split the thread to the Poli forum. It’s a whole thing.
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I agree with Saban.. NIL and Portal will potentially end most college sports unless guardrails...
Add in the realignment of leagues/teams will end numerous non-rev sports at schools
The expenses to fly non-rev sport teams across the country merely for in-league matches is not sustainable.
Roughly: Baseball travel is 40 people plus equipment. Softball 26 people. Soccer 28. Field hockey 30. Lacrosse 34. Volleyball 24.
Virtually the entire sports functions of a school are paid for from football and to some minor degree basketball.
We'll see NIL lawsuits in very short order... SEC used to grossly oversign and toss out later... well, that's NIL territory now...
and in our litigious crazy world, you know schools will be named as parties by players
Add in the realignment of leagues/teams will end numerous non-rev sports at schools
The expenses to fly non-rev sport teams across the country merely for in-league matches is not sustainable.
Roughly: Baseball travel is 40 people plus equipment. Softball 26 people. Soccer 28. Field hockey 30. Lacrosse 34. Volleyball 24.
Virtually the entire sports functions of a school are paid for from football and to some minor degree basketball.
We'll see NIL lawsuits in very short order... SEC used to grossly oversign and toss out later... well, that's NIL territory now...
and in our litigious crazy world, you know schools will be named as parties by players
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Make a league of the big revenue football teams that isn’t affiliated with the schools in any way. The teams can license the use of the university’s name for a fee.
It’s a lot simpler to solve that problem than try and fit the entirety of the old college sports model into the new realities.
It’s a lot simpler to solve that problem than try and fit the entirety of the old college sports model into the new realities.
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