Leave him alone. He only works with complete information.
He's got to personally circumnavigate the globe to be sure it's round.
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Leave him alone. He only works with complete information.
He's got to personally circumnavigate the globe to be sure it's round.
Are you guys being stupid on purpose?
1. You obviously didn’t keep reading the article because that recruit said he didn’t speak to A&M coaches about NIL money. He was literally talking about other schools.
2. Why are you guys framing it as I’m against NIL? I guarantee I was an earlier proponent of guys being paid before the majority of this board. I remember the arguments.
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Yes, complete information works as opposed to making assumptions and intentionally omitting information.
Like this quote from the link he tried to use as evidence.
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Looks like you didn’t read the rest of the article..
And I feel amused by you wanting to keep digging a hole by just arguing in the face of facts. But he’s another article:
https://brobible.com/sports/article/texas-am-recruiting-class-nil-money/
Too much to quote as this article basically agrees fully with @Jaxbuck , and the “rumors” of the aTm deals. But here’s a few:
No, Ewers’ deal isn’t disclosed, but he obviously got an NIL deal. And it’s a substantial one.
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I’ll ignore the last sentence, because I don’t understand where you even got that from. You guys are just making shit up.
Again, since you seem to be missing the point intentionally, you can’t just pay a kid to go to your school. Those donations don’t mean shit if there’s no endorsement deal with it. What companies will the foundation be able to provide NIL deals for? Only the Schottenstein companies? Urban’s pint house?
You guys are so thirsty for mythological recruiting wins, that you overlook how stupid some of this shit is.
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Listen, you started this rain wreck with "I don't believe they work"
Then shifted to "It's just superfans doing it for ego"
Now you are back to "they don't work"?
This is Donny Jr level "please explain" nonsense. I'm done with it. You are smarter than this. You're just being obstinate.
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Why do you keep omitting things? The beginning of that part of the article was mentioning Texas Longhorns. Then the A&M part was thrown in there.
There’s literally a recruit in this class that said he didn’t discuss it. But sure “rumors.”
Grow up.
As a rule, “reportedly” and “rumors” indicate that it is not a fact. So please stop talking to me like it is a fact. Or saying stupid shit to me like “if you don’t believe it, you’re naive…blah blah blah”
I have a higher threshold for determining facts from rumors. I’ve read multiple articles from A&M recruits. Damn near all of them said NIL wasn’t a huge factor or not at all.
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I never wavered from believing they don’t work. Sorry.
Nothing I said after that contradicts my initial point.
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I didn’t omit a thing, you’re choosing what information you want to use. Yes, the article mentions the Longhorns, only to backup the use of NIL by aTm. Using an example to back up your main point is what journalists do.
One recruit said it didn’t factor into HIS signing. But then you glossed over this point
So that same recruit even agreed that NIL played a part in his class.
That same recruit then said this:
He’s agreeing that NIL will play a factor in recruiting.
I see you’re pretty dug in with your position. I guess you think NIL foundations are weird. But yet they brought in the greatest recruiting class in history and it’s a loud secret that NIL had everything to do with it. Honestly with the guys OSU has on the board of The Foundation, it’s no crazier than I’m sure the boards of some of other schools. This whole discussion will be moot and unimportant if we win an Nc. But believe that the talent brought in to win that NC was definitely brought in with help from NIL deals,like it or not.
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https://www.si.com/college/2021/12/07/texas-offensive-line-nil-deal-nonprofit
The NIL deal is between the NFP and the athletes.
I bolded the NFP part. This is how it works. Exactly as I laid it out to you lord only knows how many pages back.
Ergo extra money.
Now, let's just take a second and look at the conditions that would have to be present for your "they don't work" theory to be valid:
1) Every person involved in these type of NFPs at places like Texas, Texas A&M, OSU and a handful of SEC schools would have to be wasting time and money to set these things up. OR they are all so stupid that they are wasting all this time and money setting something up that doesn't work.
2) Athletes offered money to let "Horns with Hearts" type entities use their NIL for money would have to really only care about the foundations mission and not be motivated by the money at all.
If those two conditions are present then your theory is valid.
I think anyone beyond the age of reason knows that #2 isn't valid and I'll just leave it at that.
The NIL deal is between the NFP and the athletes.
I bolded the NFP part. This is how it works. Exactly as I laid it out to you lord only knows how many pages back.
- The "foundation raises money
- The foundation pays athletes for their NIL as part of their mission (better communities or what have you)
- The foundation gets it's money from people who are more interested in the spokespeople than the actual mission
Ergo extra money.
Now, let's just take a second and look at the conditions that would have to be present for your "they don't work" theory to be valid:
1) Every person involved in these type of NFPs at places like Texas, Texas A&M, OSU and a handful of SEC schools would have to be wasting time and money to set these things up. OR they are all so stupid that they are wasting all this time and money setting something up that doesn't work.
2) Athletes offered money to let "Horns with Hearts" type entities use their NIL for money would have to really only care about the foundations mission and not be motivated by the money at all.
If those two conditions are present then your theory is valid.
I think anyone beyond the age of reason knows that #2 isn't valid and I'll just leave it at that.
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You and I are clearly having different discussions.
1. I have no issue with guys getting paid. I’ve been on that train since as long as I can remember.
2. I never said NIL deals didn’t influence the 2022 cycle.
I’ve been specifically stating three main points: I do not believe 3rd party NIL foundations matter eapecially if the school has already created it’s own team/committee, all of this $25 million TAMU talk is just rumors and has not been substantiated, a superfan NIL foundation is creepy and will not end well for anyone involved.
How it devolved into people claiming that I said extra money doesn’t help or that I’m against NIL deals is beyond me. It illustrates one of the main reasons why I don’t believe a lot of these rumors: people will literally create their own narrative.
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Everything I sent you specifically stated how 3rd party NIL deals affected the Texas A&M class… none of the deals done were done through the school, they were private donors. The exact thing you don’t think matters, and I’ve been staying using sources how it matters. If you can’t get that, idk what to tell you
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LMAO no…it does not. The article alludes to a rumored 25mil. But doesn’t include any deals or what TAMU players were given. It doesn’t even say which player committed to TAMU because of NIL. It only quotes Erb talking about an NIL deal somebody else got to go to Jackson State.
Again, people create their own narratives.
Do the A&M boosters have a non-profit? What’s the name of it? Or are they just literally handing out checks?
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