Mustain & Arkansas Desperation (Merged)

[OSUsushichic]

Mustain has to be one of the most unsexy surnames ever. Dick and Nutt, sexy. Mustain, not so much. :p

 

[methomps]

They guy was a freshman last year, and his family was bitching because Darren McFadden became the focal point of the offense.

I'm no fan of Houton Nutt, but any coach that wants to structure his offense around a freshman QB as opposed to an All American Running Back would have to be insane.

The problem was that Nutt made promises about what direction the offense would go in.

 

[jimotis4heisman]

The problem was that Nutt made promises about what direction the offense would go in.

oh, he should have just promised hed be his #1 guy?

 

[akronbuck]

He's not a cancer. Nutt is the cancer. This kid will be a star in the right place.

when he marries his mother. Trailer park class

 

[methomps]

oh, he should have just promised hed be his #1 guy?

Vague is better.

 

[Flocka]

when he marries his mother. Trailer park class

Get over the ridiculous stereotypes of southerners.

 

[methomps]

Mustain Update

The Arkansas quarterback will visit Wednesday or Thursday before making a decision on whether to transfer to USC.

 

[808 Buck]

Well, it's a slow time of year for college football news:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2760852

Amazing that Arkansas had such a great year, despite the turmoil.

 

[methomps]

Mustain Update

For what it's worth, two sources offered the same answer when asked whether Arkansas quarterback Mitch Mustain would transfer to USC after he arrived Wednesday.
``It looks like he is,'' they both said, unaware of the other's answer.
Posted by Scott Wolf at 04:32 AM | Permalink

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

Mustain Update

For what it's worth, two sources offered the same answer when asked whether Arkansas quarterback Mitch Mustain would transfer to USC after he arrived Wednesday.
``It looks like he is,'' they both said, unaware of the other's answer.
Posted by Scott Wolf at 04:32 AM | Permalink

...Scott Wolf said. He then hurried off to get an early start on voting Eastern Alabama #1 in his preseason football poll.

 

[OH10]

The problem was that Nutt made promises about what direction the offense would go in.

And that is somehow a problem limited to Houston Nutt?

 

[methomps]

And that is somehow a problem limited to Houston Nutt?

I'm not following.

 

[OH10]

I'm not following.

Even if Coach Nutt said to Mustain and his family that the offense would be structured around their son:

1. He's definately not the only coach in the SEC, or in the country to make such a promise.

2. That doesn't mean that he meant that it would happen his freshman year.

3. That doesn't mean that his parents have the right to be unreasonable about it. The kid was stinking up the joint and McFadden was playing lights out. What did they expect Nutt to do? Tank the team and the season so that their son could have the offense structured around him?

If that family was naive enough to believe that the offense would be built around their son NO MATTER THE CIRCUMSTANCES, then they deserve to be criticized.

 

[methomps]

Even if Coach Nutt said to Mustain and his family that the offense would be structured around their son:

1. He's definately not the only coach in the SEC, or in the country to make such a promise.

2. That doesn't mean that he meant that it would happen his freshman year.

3. That doesn't mean that his parents have the right to be unreasonable about it. The kid was stinking up the joint and McFadden was playing lights out. What did they expect Nutt to do? Tank the team and the season so that their son could have the offense structured around him?

If that family was naive enough to believe that the offense would be built around their son NO MATTER THE CIRCUMSTANCES, then they deserve to be criticized.

1. What does it matter what other coaches in the country do? This was a promise between Mustain and Nutt.

2. Maybe. But even if we assume that nothing was promised to happen right away, where does that leave us? McFadden is going to be back next year, so we are talking at least another year without the changes.

3. What is unreasonable about expecting a promise to be kept? The very purpose of a promise is certainty. What good would promises be if they all had the implicit caveat that they were void if something better came along for the other party?

McFadden wasn't an unknown to Nutt. McFadden showed what he could do in 2005. Nutt should have considered McFadden when he made the promise.

Don't forget that the promise bought something: it bought Mustain to Arkansas. Without it, he probably doesn't go. You seem to be saying that Nutt should be free to make promises, receive the benefits of the promise (a kid's LOI), and yet be free from making good on the promise.

And don't act like this is just a lone misfit. You had 3 of the Springdale families upset about it. Williams left. Malzahn left (although obviously other factors contributed to that). and Mustain is leaving.

 

[OH10]

1. What does it matter what other coaches in the country do? This was a promise between Mustain and Nutt.

The point is that this is not an unusual situation. It's part of the dirty world of recruiting, and it is bullshit. As I said before, I'm not fan of Houston Nutt.

2. Maybe. But even if we assume that nothing was promised to happen right away, where does that leave us? McFadden is going to be back next year, so we are talking at least another year without the changes.

Again, the family has to be practical about it. The program and its success was ALWAYS going to come first. If they thought different, then they are stupid.

3. What is unreasonable about expecting a promise to be kept? The very purpose of a promise is certainty. What good would promises be if they all had the implicit caveat that they were void if something better came along for the other party?

First of all, I'm not really sure in what terms Nutt said what about the offense. It's he said-she said.

Second of all, this family and the Springsboro kids in general can't possibly have expected the rest of the players at Arkansas and the fans of Arkansas football to suffer through mediocre football because of it. They sound like little league parents that think it's all about them.

McFadden wasn't an unknown to Nutt. McFadden showed what he could do in 2005. Nutt should have considered McFadden when he made the promise.

Again, he said-she said on the promise thing.

Don't forget that the promise bought something: it bought Mustain to Arkansas. Without it, he probably doesn't go. You seem to be saying that Nutt should be free to make promises, receive the benefits of the promise (a kid's LOI), and yet be free from making good on the promise.

I expect that you would hold Pete Carroll to such a standard as well on signatures he gets - you know like attempting to reassure a recruit that USC won't face sanctions (when he can't say for certain about that at all).

I think implicit in anything that you say to a recruit is that there are contingencies. Certainly if Mustain went 0-15 with 6 picks in a game, the family couldn't reasonably expect that the offense was going to revolve around him anymore. Or if Mustain went out and picked up an OVI, he might get suspended or even kicked off the team. Or if Mustain became an massive lazy prick at practices, was a horrible teammate, then maybe he shouldn't expect to start.

There are always conditions and circumstances that should be considered.

Again, no coach can make any ironclad promise, so this "certainty" you speak can't possibly exist. And if the family didn't know that, they're stupid.