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Michigan State Spartans (official thread)

MSU facing lawsuit alleging basketball players raped student

A female student says Michigan State subjected her to a "hostile educational environment," failed to advise her of her rights and did not offer adequate resources for help after she told counselors in 2015 that three Spartans basketball players had raped her.

The allegations are made in a lawsuit filed Monday in U.S. District Court for the Western District of Michigan that also states the woman suffered severe emotional distress and had to temporarily withdraw from classes, change her major, seek psychiatric help and constantly fear running into the three men on campus as a result of the incident and the school's failure to properly respond.

Neither the woman, who is a current student, nor the three players, who are no longer at the school, are named in the lawsuit. Her attorney said the players are not being named because the focus of the lawsuit is "with the way she was treated by the university."

The attorney, Karen Truszkowski, told Outside the Lines that her client has not reported the incident to police, but, "I cannot say that she's not ever going to report it." The woman spoke to Outside the Lines on the condition she not be identified because she fears revealing her identity publicly. The woman said she did not report the alleged assault to police in 2015 because she and some of her friends, who were younger than 21 at the time, had used fake IDs to get into a bar the night of the alleged incident and she worried they would all get cited with underage drinking charges.

Emtire article: http://www.espn.com/espn/otl/story/...ent-university-did-not-adequately-support-her

After Larry Nassar, William Strampel, and other miscellaneous accusations on how Izzo & Dantonio handled sexual harassment complaints against their players; I’d say Sparty is really "on a roll" here.
 
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I never can understand why universities always seem to take the side of the rapist, rather than the victim, who is also a student. I understand the natural tendency to try to cover your ass, or deny that anything ever happened at all. But what the hell, at least stay neutral when two students are involved. Reminds me of what happened multiple times at CU, that led to president Betsy Hoffman's famous quote in her deposition when she said the C word could be a term of endearment. This should not end well for Sparty.
 
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I never can understand why universities always seem to take the side of the rapist, rather than the victim, who is also a student.

Not to argue with you, because I don't follow this much. Or at all. But the Duke Lacrosse thing comes to mind. The university took the side of the "victim", and punished all Lacrosse players (by cancelling the season, and kicking out the 2-3 students who were accused).

Is it too obvious to reply that it's because the girl who was raped never made a million dollars for the university?

You may be right - that may be the difference. Lacrosse doesn't make money for the school, while football and basketball do.
 
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Not to argue with you, because I don't follow this much. Or at all. But the Duke Lacrosse thing comes to mind. The university took the side of the "victim", and punished all Lacrosse players (by cancelling the season, and kicking out the 2-3 students who were accused).
There's nothing to argue about. I understand that there are often false accusations, and due process is critical. However, the school should remain neutral and not take the side of the accused. Lassie probably is right. It's all about the $.
 
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I never can understand why universities always seem to take the side of the rapist, rather than the victim, who is also a student. I understand the natural tendency to try to cover your ass, or deny that anything ever happened at all. But what the hell, at least stay neutral when two students are involved. Reminds me of what happened multiple times at CU, that led to president Betsy Hoffman's famous quote in her deposition when she said the C word could be a term of endearment. This should not end well for Sparty.

Correctamundo, Ringo. Stay neutral. Say that it's a civil/criminal matter, and that the university will cooperate with any involved parties and then do so. And then just shut your piehole
 
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Not to argue with you, because I don't follow this much. Or at all. But the Duke Lacrosse thing comes to mind. The university took the side of the "victim", and punished all Lacrosse players (by cancelling the season, and kicking out the 2-3 students who were accused).



You may be right - that may be the difference. Lacrosse doesn't make money for the school, while football and basketball do.

I will say that history has proven that there seems to be a lot less long term damage to the institution from siding in error on the side of the victim than on the siding in error on the side of the accused as the situations at Baylor and Penn State would indicate.
 
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There's nothing to argue about. I understand that there are often false accusations, and due process is critical. However, the school should remain neutral and not take the side of the accused. Lassie probably is right. It's all about the $.

I may disagree with myself. It's 75-80% the money. There's also a substantial dose of idolization of sports "heroes" in there somewhere, too.
(Although, for the school, boosters giving big $$$ because they idolize the players does lead back to the money, too.)
 
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I will say that history has proven that there seems to be a lot less long term damage to the institution from siding in error on the side of the victim than on the siding in error on the side of the accused as the situations at Baylor and Penn State would indicate.

OK - so the Duke issue: I think we can all agree that it was pretty much the opposite of "typical". I'm going to guess that a large majority of rape accusations are warranted. So the school bet in favor of the odds and just happened to lose. Are you saying that they were correct in doing so?

I'm far from saying that they should take the Notre Dame approach, and have the school cover it up until the victim commits suicide. I guess I'm saying that the school really should remain neutral, which I think you said a post or two above the one I replied to. Something about pie.... and cooperating with Ringo.
 
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