Michael Jackson dies after cardiac arrest

[OCBuckWife]

Why would a 12 year old wish to hangout with Michael Jackson? .

When your house looks like Disneyland, why WOULDN'T a 12 year old want to hang out?

 

[goblue15]

When your house looks like Disneyland, why WOULDN'T a 12 year old want to hang out?

I really just have a tough time believing the kids/parents, seems a little shady to me.

 

[OCBuckWife]

I really just have a tough time believing the kids/parents, seems a little shady to me.

Ok, fair enough. Think about this then. Why would a 40 year old man create a house and lands that had an amusement park in it, a kid sized train crossing it, pony rides, petting zoo, and make the house and it's front lawn look like an exact copy of Disneyland, a known kid magnet?

 

[Wingate1217]

Ok, fair enough. Think about this then. Why would a 40 year old man create a house and lands that had an amusement park in it, a kid sized train crossing it, pony rides, petting zoo, and make the house and it's front lawn look like an exact copy of Disneyland, a known kid magnet?

Couldn't the same be said of Walt and Roy Disney? I am not defended MJ (because I believe that he was a pedo) but sometimes people have motives that are less than apparent.....

 

[OCBuckWife]

Couldn't the same be said of Walt and Roy Disney? I am not defended MJ (because I believe that he was a pedo) but sometimes people have motives that are less than apparent.....

It could be said yes, except theirs was a commercial venture. I'm not saying it isn't possible the Disneys couldn't be pedos too, you never know for sure until they get caught. But I find it much odder for a private home to be an amusement park rather than an amusement park to have residences in it. If I had a business that large, I would want a place to stay in it too. :tongue2:

 

[Wingate1217]

It could be said yes, except theirs was a commercial venture. I'm not saying it isn't possible the Disneys couldn't be pedos too, you never know for sure until they get caught. But I find it much odder for a private home to be an amusement park rather than an amusement park to have residences in it. If I had a business that large, I would want a place to stay in it too. :tongue2:

I just wanted to point out that sometimes things are want they seem, however agreeably in this case where there is smoke there is fire....

 

[WaitingforKickoff]

The man obviously had problems. Perhaps he was attracted to children because of the rejection that he suffered from the adult world. IDK. But it just strikes incredibly odd to me that a pedo would advertise his perversion to the extent that Jackson allegedly has. What's even more odd is that the allegations of abuse came from kids who were well into their teens, and kids at that age are much more difficult to control than when they are younger. Perhaps his weirdness made him indefensible in court, idk, but it's not a shock that it ended this way for him.

 

[OCBuckWife]

The man obviously had problems. Perhaps he was attracted to children because of the rejection that he suffered from the adult world. IDK. .

Rejection from the adult world? Did you see the instant crowd of adult mourners outside the hospital as the news broke? :)

 

[buckeyefool]

Ok, fair enough. Think about this then. Why would a 40 year old man create a house and lands that had an amusement park in it, a kid sized train crossing it, pony rides, petting zoo, and make the house and it's front lawn look like an exact copy of Disneyland, a known kid magnet?

Didn't he constantly bring in kids and families from poor areas to the land and have parties with large groups of people there in his heyday?

Before they hit it big the Jacksons were a very poor family, then once they did become big MJ was sort of the gravey train. The rest of the family has talent, but none of them would ever draw as big as he did. For all the crazy shit people said about him, he was always giving to charities and causes he believed in, maybe in some ways he gave more the the child causes because of the fact that he never had a childhood, or maybe he trusted children more. Who knows really.

As far as the pedo thing, if it happened I would guess it would have happened with the first kid, but after that I think that it was parents looking for a payday after they just payed the other kid to go away.

 

[OCBuckWife]

Didn't he constantly bring in kids and families from poor areas to the land and have parties with large groups of people there in his heyday?

Before they hit it big the Jacksons were a very poor family, then once they did become big MJ was sort of the gravey train. The rest of the family has talent, but none of them would ever draw as big as he did. For all the crazy shit people said about him, he was always giving to charities and causes he believed in, maybe in some ways he gave more the the child causes because of the fact that he never had a childhood, or maybe he trusted children more. Who knows really.

As far as the pedo thing, if it happened I would guess it would have happened with the first kid, but after that I think that it was parents looking for a payday after they just payed the other kid to go away.

He did do great things. I will agree wholeheartedly with that. He became some caricature of himself later but it won't ever change the work he did early on. The pedo thing could be talked about forever without conclusion unfortunately.





Unless some super secret information is suddenly released upon his death that makes it all clear and was previously never allowed to be seen by the public.

 

[buckeyefool]

He did do great things. I will agree wholeheartedly with that. He became some caricature of himself later but it won't ever change the work he did early on. The pedo thing could be talked about forever without conclusion unfortunately.





Unless some super secret information is suddenly released upon his death that makes it all clear and was previously never allowed to be seen by the public.

Agree totally. He had a huge influence on much of the r&b/hip hop world, and really pop world. I know artist such as Usher, have said he really influenced how he performs. And really any artist would kill to become as big as he was in his hayday.

 

[osugrad21]

So to play devil's advocate here....take away all of the accusations. Now, how many of you parents would have let your kids go there for a weekend...

If you answered, yes you would, would you have been comfortable if your son came home and told you he slept in the same bed as Jacko?

 

[PlanetFrnd]

So to play devil's advocate here....take away all of the accusations. Now, how many of you parents would have let your kids go there for a weekend...

If you answered, yes you would, would you have been comfortable if your son came home and told you he slept in the same bed as Jacko?

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Exactly.

 

[cincibuck]

OK, OK, I never listened to his music, thought he danced about as well as any "good dancer" at my old high school, never mumbled his name in the same breath as Gene Kelly or Fred Astair, never compared his music to -- how about Stevie Wonder for starters -- to me he was one of those totally inexplicable phenomonons -- like the Monkees -- and I don't wish anyone to take The Last Train to Clarksville -- but Jeez, can we put a perspective on this?

That is a shame.

Ok, let's rephrase that: "I seldom listened to his music," I had to buy, and endure, Thriller and other albums to keep peace with my daughter.OK, OK, I thought he danced about as well as any "good dancer" at my old high school, never mumbled his name in the same breath as Gene Kelly or Fred Astair, never compared his music to -- how about Stevie Wonder for starters --

to me he was one of those totally inexplicable phenomonons -- like the Monkees -- and I don't wish anyone to take The Last Train to Clarksville --

but Jeez, can we put a perspective on this? Is this the sort of stuff that needs to be on every network news show ad nauseum?

 

[BUCKYLE]

Ok, let's rephrase that: "I seldom listened to his music," I had to buy, and endure, Thriller and other albums to keep peace with my daughter.OK, OK, I thought he danced about as well as any "good dancer" at my old high school, never mumbled his name in the same breath as Gene Kelly or Fred Astair, never compared his music to -- how about Stevie Wonder for starters --

to me he was one of those totally inexplicable phenomonons -- like the Monkees -- and I don't wish anyone to take The Last Train to Clarksville --

but Jeez, can we put a perspective on this? Is this the sort of stuff that needs to be on every network news show ad nauseum?

I ain't never seen Fred motherfuckin' Astair do the motherfuckin' Moonwalk.

I'm no fan of dancing, but that "man" could fuckin' dance.

Everyone...EVERYONE born in the late 70's, early 80's tried to Moonwalk at some point in their life.