Mark Sanchez (Philadelphia Eagles)

[BuckeyeNation27]

I watched Sanchez's press conference. He declared that he was coming out, and that he'd always be a Trojan, loved the time with his teammates, and that he would always "Fight on". Pretty much everything you'd expect him to say.

Then Pete Carroll came to the microphones, and all I can say is "Wow!".

Pete clearly disagreed with the decision. He said that Sanchez was going 'against the grain', and things like he wouldn't be taking advantage of all the opportunities at USC, and that the NFL only has film of 16 starts for him, and that half the QBs that come out early aren't successful in the NFL. Pete said that players considering the NFL go through a process at USC, and that Sanchez was 'hammered' with information during the process. Pete also said he felt like he was a father to Sanchez. FYI, Mark isn't really leaving college early, he will have his degree before he plays in the NFL (he's been there for 4 years, the first of which was a redshirt).

I was stunned at how negative Carroll was, just moments after Sanchez announced his decision - what should be a joyous occasion for the Sanchez family had USC's coach throwing cold water on the proceedings. It was basically "good luck, but you're making a mistake".

In my opinion, that was a classless move by Carroll, and it appeared to me that Pete is really interested in having players stay at USC for the good of USC and Carroll, not in making the decision that's best for them.

So you're disagreeing with me? :p

 

[Buck Nasty]

I watched Sanchez's press conference. He declared that he was coming out, and that he'd always be a Trojan, loved the time with his teammates, and that he would always "Fight on". Pretty much everything you'd expect him to say.

Then Pete Carroll came to the microphones, and all I can say is "Wow!".

Pete clearly disagreed with the decision. He said that Sanchez was going 'against the grain', and things like he wouldn't be taking advantage of all the opportunities at USC, and that the NFL only has film of 16 starts for him, and that half the QBs that come out early aren't successful in the NFL. Pete said that players considering the NFL go through a process at USC, and that Sanchez was 'hammered' with information during the process. Pete also said he felt like he was a father to Sanchez. FYI, Mark isn't really leaving college early, he will have his degree before he plays in the NFL (he's been there for 4 years, the first of which was a redshirt).

I was stunned at how negative Carroll was, just moments after Sanchez announced his decision - what should be a joyous occasion for the Sanchez family had USC's coach throwing cold water on the proceedings. It was basically "good luck, but you're making a mistake".

In my opinion, that was a classless move by Carroll, and it appeared to me that Pete is really interested in having players stay at USC for the good of USC and Carroll, not in making the decision that's best for them.

In all fairness to Carroll he has to be delicate in what he says. He couldn't come right out and say the kid is going to end up taking a pay cut by going pro.

 

[Mr_Burns]

I didn't see the press conference, but BB73's comments as well as the comments from SC fans that Jwins quoted say enough. With that being said, it seems pretty uncharacteristic from what we usually see from Carroll. At USC, of all places, you'd think he'd have the "next in line, step up" mentality in this situation as he has in years past.

What I'm trying to figure out is how much, or what percentage of his statements derive from:

1. His actual concern for the well-being of Mark Sanchez's future
2. His concern that a new starting QB next season makes them more likely to drop an extra game or two, knocking them out of the title hunt yet another year (like BB73 said)
3. The fact that the last "All-Everything", can't-miss QB prospect out of USC (one of the first QB recruits on his watch, if I'm not mistaken) was handed a clipboard in favor of gray-bearded Kurt Warner, and another USC QB not living up to expectations in the NFL would somehow tarnish the image of what he has going on at USC.

Just thinking out loud here. Well not out loud, but you know what I mean. It just seems for him to react this way, there has to be an underlying reason. I'm not familiar enough with Carroll to know what the most likely reason would be. Like I said, he usually just throws the next 5* kid in there and they don't really see much of a drop off. I'm surprised to see that from him today.

 

[BuckNutty]

I didn't see the press conference, but BB73's comments as well as the comments from SC fans that Jwins quoted say enough. With that being said, it seems pretty uncharacteristic from what we usually see from Carroll. At USC, of all places, you'd think he'd have the "next in line, step up" mentality in this situation as he has in years past.

What I'm trying to figure out is how much, or what percentage of his statements derive from:

1. His actual concern for the well-being of Mark Sanchez's future
2. His concern that a new starting QB next season makes them more likely to drop an extra game or two, knocking them out of the title hunt yet another year (like BB73 said)
3. The fact that the last "All-Everything", can't-miss QB prospect out of USC (one of the first QB recruits on his watch, if I'm not mistaken) was handed a clipboard in favor of gray-bearded Kurt Warner, and another USC QB not living up to expectations in the NFL would somehow tarnish the image of what he has going on at USC.

Just thinking out loud here. Well not out loud, but you know what I mean. It just seems for him to react this way, there has to be an underlying reason. I'm not familiar enough with Carroll to know what the most likely reason would be. Like I said, he usually just throws the next 5* kid in there and they don't really see much of a drop off. I'm surprised to see that from him today.

I could be way off but I'm of the opinion this is a coach who just saw his chances of winning a National Championship next year greatly diminished and he lashed out like a petulant child. Even if everything he said about Sanchez was correct he picked a very inappropriate time and place to make his feelings known.

 

[NFBuck]

Petulant Petey acting like a child not getting his way. You stay classy.

 

[jwinslow]

More WeAreSC reactions:

can you blame PC? - WeAreSC Forums

can you blame PC? the fact is, WE HAD A NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP TEAM WITH EXPERIENCE NEXT YEAR.

that team will not be coming back with mark sanchez gone.(extremely difficult)

coach wants the best for his kids, but he also wants the team to have championship success. and that starts with an experienced QB. that would be mark sanchez.

so you cant blame PC. afterall, we all want to win too dont we?

I wanted that too. And I realize that we don't have it anymore. I'm extremely disappointed that we're not going to be front runners.

But the way Pete handled himself in that press conference was wrong.

PC looking out for PC. Mark looking out for Mark's family. Good move by Mark.

PC is just another college coach looking out for himself. Never thought I would say that.

I missed it. How did PC handle himself?

Like a used car salesman.

Look at ESPN, all they are talking about is PC's comments.

Great job Pete.

I believe you just lowered his draft stock.

Can you tell coach disagrees with the decision - Page 2 - WeAreSC Forums

I have to say that I think what Pete did was very low. I mean.... I basically agree with what Pete said but why do you have to do that at Mark's press conference? PC clearly spoke his peace to Mark in private and Mark made the decision to leave.

This was Mark's moment... and PC kinda ruined it. I really feel for Mark.

BTW.... I thought Mark was extremely well-spoken and classy in all of his comment.

That's true - but maybe Coach had one last 'meeting' prior to press and was still stewing a bit. But, you are right, he should not have rained on Mark's parade, if that is what he did.

He did not rain on his parade. He told the press exactly what he told Mark...he explained how the NFL evaluation process works.

I thought PC went on a bit too long in his explanation as to why he disagrees with Mark's decision.

He obviously had told EVERYTHING possible to Mark as to why he should come back, but ultimately it's Mark's decision, and Pete could have looked a bit more supportive.

This is one of the biggest days in Mark's life, and I think PC should have just said, "I wish Mark nothing but the best, even though I don't agree with his decision, but I know he's a great kid with a really bright future and we know he's gonna meet this challenge head on."

It wasn't like PC went waaaay over board or anything, but I think he could have handled it a bit better. JMO.

BINGO.

I trust Pete Carroll's opinion over any potential agents that were promising Mark the world. Carroll, more than anyone, is looking out for Mark's best interests. The agent just wants his commission. Who do you trust more?

That's complete bull. Pete Carroll cares about having a championship caliber team next year and he knows the chances of that increase with Mark Sanchez at QB. The way he acted at the press conference today was akin to something of a spurned, bitter ex-lover.

Mark Sanchez gave four years of his life to this university and now instead of coming back with a new offensive coordinator and a new defense, he has a chance to go to the NFL and financially set himself, his kids and his grandkids for life.

He did look like a arrogant jerk on that interview...and i agree with him...Mark is making a huge mistake

 

[jwinslow]

cbs2.com - USC's Mark Sanchez Will Enter NFL Draft

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Video of Sanchez Press Conference (18 min).

Carroll arrives 5 min into it.

 

[NFBuck]

Seriously, could you see Jim Tressel behaving like that at a press conference for any of his kids? Mack Brown? Bob Stoops? Pretty much anybody other than maybe Charlie Weis? Congrats Petey, you just got yourself compared to Charlie Weis in my mind. Ouch.

 

[OH10]

Anyone here remember how he reacted when Gwaltney spurned USC for West Virgina?

 

[jwinslow]

Anyone here remember how he reacted when Gwaltney spurned USC for West Virgina?

Yup:

take this for what it is worth, but I thought this would be good to share, considering it is pretty speculative...from a poster on the BSB board:

apparently Coach Rod from WVU made some comments off the record to some reporters at his press conference yesterday that he was highly impressed with the way OSU went about recruiting Gwaltney. This was said in contrast to the way Petey Carroll went about things.

From what I'm told Rodriguez had high praise for Tressel and staff and their professionalism and their desire for Jason to make the choice that he felt was best for him and that he had their support as a young man either way. Also, OSU did not invoke negative recruiting tactics but instead focused on the positives of the OSU opportunity.

Petey, however, only wanted what was best for Jason as long as what it matched what was best for Petey.....and he went negative from the get go on WVU and OSU.....and in the end was less than gracious with Jason once he found out Jason was going to stick to his original commitment to WVU.

 

[JCOSU86]

Hmm. Even if he thought that, I don't think JT would say it in public, especially at the press conference announcing the decision. Will he say it about Donald Washington? There is more reason to say it there than at a Press Conference for Sanchez. I doubt he does though.

 

[MaxBuck]

Hmm. Even if he thought that, I don't think JT would say it in public, especially at the press conference announcing the decision. Will he say it about Donald Washington? There is more reason to say it there than at a Press Conference for Sanchez. I doubt he does though.

More reason yet in the case of Hartline IMO. But I agree that Coach Tressel is above the sort of nonsense that Carroll engaged in.

I have absolutely no problem with Carroll trying to talk a young man out of a decision to go pro if he honestly believes that it's not in the boy's best interest to do so. But I have big problems if his motivations are selfish, and regardless of his motivation, at the press conference it should be his primary job to be supportive to his young charge - if he can't do that, he should just shut up.

 

[LitlBuck]

What a classless guy. The kid is so happy about going into the NFL and for Carroll to say the things that he said about Sanchez's decision shows no class whatsoever.

I wonder what he:! said to OJ Mayo

 

[buckeyesin07]

I hope 5-star recruits considering USC were watching the press conference today. That's a heck of a black eye for USC recruiting if recruits think they're going to have to put up with what Sanchez did today should they decide to leave USC early for the NFL.

 

[BuckeyeTillIDie]

So, Pete Carroll is a douche bag? Big surprise!