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Lebron James (Los Angeles Lakers)

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A few days late with this, but LBJ won the MVP award in a landslide. He had 109 first-place votes, while the others who had at least one first-place vote (Kobe Bryant, Dwyane Wade, Dwight Howard, and Chris Paul) had a total of 12 between them. All players except for LBJ had at least two votes as low as fifth, while the lowest vote he got was for third place and that was a single vote (he also had 11 second-place votes).


Player ................ Team ...... 1st .. 2nd .. 3rd .. 4th .. 5th .. Total Points
LeBron James ...... Cleveland ..... 109 ... 11 .... 1 .... - .... - ..... 1172
Kobe Bryant ....... L.A. Lakers ..... 2 ... 56 ... 52 .... 8 .... 2 ...... 698
Dwyane Wade ....... Miami ........... 7 ... 50 ... 41 ... 17 .... 4 ...... 680
Dwight Howard ..... Orlando ......... 1 .... 3 ... 17 ... 63 ... 23 ...... 328
Chris Paul ........ New Orleans ..... 2 .... 1 .... 9 ... 23 ... 51 ...... 192
Chauncey Billups .. Denver .......... - .... - .... - .... 6 ... 15 ....... 33
Paul Pierce ....... Boston .......... - .... - .... 1 .... 2 ... 10 ....... 21
Tony Parker ....... San Antonio ..... - .... - .... - .... 1 .... 6 ........ 9
Brandon Roy ....... Portland ........ - .... - .... - .... 1 .... 4 ........ 7
Dirk Nowitzki ..... Dallas .......... - .... - .... - .... - .... 3 ........ 3
Tim Duncan ........ San Antonio ..... - .... - .... - .... - .... 2 ........ 2
Yao Ming .......... Houston ......... - .... - .... - .... - .... 1 ........ 1
 
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MililaniBuckeye;1461853; said:
A few days late with this, but LBJ won the MVP award in a landslide. He had 109 first-place votes, while the others who had at least one first-place vote (Kobe Bryant, Dwyane Wade, Dwight Howard, and Chris Paul) had a total of 12 between them. All players except for LBJ had at least two votes as low as fifth, while the lowest vote he got was for third place and that was a single vote (he also had 11 second-place votes).


Player ................ Team ...... 1st .. 2nd .. 3rd .. 4th .. 5th .. Total Points
LeBron James ...... Cleveland ..... 109 ... 11 .... 1 .... - .... - ..... 1172
Kobe Bryant ....... L.A. Lakers ..... 2 ... 56 ... 52 .... 8 .... 2 ...... 698
Dwyane Wade ....... Miami ........... 7 ... 50 ... 41 ... 17 .... 4 ...... 680
Dwight Howard ..... Orlando ......... 1 .... 3 ... 17 ... 63 ... 23 ...... 328
Chris Paul ........ New Orleans ..... 2 .... 1 .... 9 ... 23 ... 51 ...... 192
Chauncey Billups .. Denver .......... - .... - .... - .... 6 ... 15 ....... 33
Paul Pierce ....... Boston .......... - .... - .... 1 .... 2 ... 10 ....... 21
Tony Parker ....... San Antonio ..... - .... - .... - .... 1 .... 6 ........ 9
Brandon Roy ....... Portland ........ - .... - .... - .... 1 .... 4 ........ 7
Dirk Nowitzki ..... Dallas .......... - .... - .... - .... - .... 3 ........ 3
Tim Duncan ........ San Antonio ..... - .... - .... - .... - .... 2 ........ 2
Yao Ming .......... Houston ......... - .... - .... - .... - .... 1 ........ 1
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Whoever voted LeBron 3rd needs to have his head removed from his colon.
 
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While I don't have the knowledge to evaluate the author's opinion, I found his article to be interesting. Any opinions on the accuracy of his analysis?

LeBron vs. Kobe II: Bryant Dethrowns the King | The Cornell Daily Sun
LeBron vs. Kobe II: Bryant Dethrowns the King

April 26, 2009 - 12:00am
By Jimmy Fowose
Tags: Center Box Story, Sports Blogs, Kobe, Lebron, NBA, Sports Blogs Of the several arguments that pervade the National Basketball Association today, there is none more controversial, more polarizing, and more litigious than the debate on whom the best player in the game is: Kobe Bean Bryant or LeBron Raymone James. Kobe Bryant embodies an extremely talented, hard-working, technically sound prodigy whose work-ethic is unknown to most of his peers. In LeBron James, players and fans alike see an enormously gifted, duly scintillating, freak of an athlete who is perhaps the only player in all of sports that has exceeded all the hype surrounding him, having garnered national attention early in his career. So which of these players is better? That would be Kobe Bryant precisely because of the following: his ability to create his own shot, his defense, his effectiveness at the most critical moments of a game, and lastly, though quite as important, his peers? opinion.
 
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pokey;1464181; said:
While I don't have the knowledge to evaluate the author's opinion, I found his article to be interesting. Any opinions on the accuracy of his analysis?

LeBron vs. Kobe II: Bryant Dethrowns the King | The Cornell Daily Sun
LeBron vs. Kobe II: Bryant Dethrowns the King

April 26, 2009 - 12:00am
By Jimmy Fowose
Tags: Center Box Story, Sports Blogs, Kobe, Lebron, NBA, Sports Blogs Of the several arguments that pervade the National Basketball Association today, there is none more controversial, more polarizing, and more litigious than the debate on whom the best player in the game is: Kobe Bean Bryant or LeBron Raymone James. Kobe Bryant embodies an extremely talented, hard-working, technically sound prodigy whose work-ethic is unknown to most of his peers. In LeBron James, players and fans alike see an enormously gifted, duly scintillating, freak of an athlete who is perhaps the only player in all of sports that has exceeded all the hype surrounding him, having garnered national attention early in his career. So which of these players is better? That would be Kobe Bryant precisely because of the following: his ability to create his own shot, his defense, his effectiveness at the most critical moments of a game, and lastly, though quite as important, his peers? opinion.
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My opinion is that it's a good thing the guy wrote that article instead of giving a speech. There's no way he would've been able to talk with Kobe's dick in his mouth.

They are both great players, no doubt. I really believe that when Lebron's carreer is over, he'll go down as the greatest of all time. Fwiw, I'm not a Cavs fan either. Also, to be fair, I fucking hate Kobe Bryant.
 
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I was having a drunk conversation with my brother this evening about other sports that Lebron could dominate had he chosen them over basketball at a young age. Everybody knows that he could have been an unstoppable receiver or tight end in football.

But I contend that he would have been the most dominant volleyball player ever, the most dominant soccer goalie ever, the best defensive soccer player and the best header in the game. Those are two sports where he would have taken over games.
 
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OH10;1464291; said:
I was having a drunk conversation with my brother this evening about other sports that Lebron could dominate had he chosen them over basketball at a young age. Everybody knows that he could have been an unstoppable receiver or tight end in football.

But I contend that he would have been the most dominant volleyball player ever, the most dominant soccer goalie ever, the best defensive soccer player and the best header in the game. Those are two sports where he would have taken over games.
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I don't know enough about soccer, but volleyball, hell yeah, could you imagine the beast of a spike that LeBron could lay down.
 
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pokey;1464181; said:
LeBron vs. Kobe II: Bryant Dethrowns the King | The Cornell Daily Sun
LeBron vs. Kobe II: Bryant Dethrowns the King

April 26, 2009 - 12:00am
By Jimmy Fowose
Blah blah blah. That would be Kobe Bryant precisely because of the following: his ability to create his own shot, his defense, his effectiveness at the most critical moments of a game, and lastly, though quite as important, his peers? opinion.
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Let me boil his argument down. "Sure Lebron's numbers are better across the board but Kobe has a better mid range jumper so he's better. Plus Eric Snow says so!" If you've ever read any Kobe Fan Apologetics then you won't hear anything new from this guy. Just reading the article nearly popped my head.

1. Sure, Kobe is one of the masters of dropping the "what the fuck are you think- oh my god it went in" shot (to be fair he makes a lot of good fundamental ones too). The fact is that a layup counts just as much as any jumper inside the arc and has the added bonus of drawing in the defense. I don't see how people can continue to hold Lebron's ability to get to the rim against him but whatever. Sure, some teams make it hard for him in the paint but how is this not offset by Kobe occasionaly being baited into shooting his team out of a game? (see: Game 1 vs Hou)
2. His defense? Yeah, he is a great. Better than Lebron? Not this year, and barring injury never again. Let's ignore the fact that Lebron can actually physically intimidate people on both sides of the court while Kobe is only an intimidator on O (oops, I brought it up!). Kobe can gaurd 3 positions, Bron can gaurd all 5. When you have a guy who can't be caught out of position it makes playing team defence so much easier.
3. In the last 5 minutes of a game (clutch time) Kobe does score at a better clip than Lebron (but only by .8 pts per 48 minutes of clutch time) but Lebron shoots at a far better rate (.556 vs .457), is better from behind the arc (.421 vs .400), more than doubles him in assists, nearly doubles him in rebounds, plus he gets far more blocks and steals. Oh, and I don't feel like chasing down the stats but so far in their careers, on the final shot, Lebron has a higher percentage AND turns the ball over less. Still, West Coast homers will continue to baselessly insist that Kobe is the best closer in the game even when they have no actual stats to back it up.
4. His peers say so? Really, who are you asking? Ron Artest says Bron is better but his teammate T-mac says Kobe is better. The NBA seems pretty split on the issue but most of the defections are going one way, to the King.

Honestly, that article is worthless and I have just wasted a shit ton of time rehashing the same argument you can find on pretty much any basketball site discussing this issue.
 
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Ginn4Heisman20;1464322; said:
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Honestly, that article is worthless and I have just wasted a shit ton of time rehashing the same argument you can find on pretty much any basketball site discussing this issue.
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I don't know if you will find the same argument summarized so well on any basketball site. Thanks for the info.
 
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purplehaze1213;1464190; said:
LeBron talking about whether or not he'll stay in Cleveland.



Ohio.com - LeBron sounds like he's staying
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...and good old e!spn, moments after airing that, continued to beat the LBJ is leaving drum. :roll1:

Will he? Hell, I don't know. I feel better about our chances the more I hear him speak, but, I understand the lure of NY and the almighty dollar. We'll see, I'm having too much fun living in the moment to worry about it right now.
 
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