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Lebron James (Los Angeles Lakers)

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BuckeyeMafia;1475120; said:
If there is a god, he will sign a contract this offseason. From what I understand he refused to talk to the media after the game- not really sure what that says, but I don't like it. I'm still confident he'll stay, but wow, I'm really scared and we're still 53-54 weeks from really worrying.
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Pssshhh...

All they have to do to keep him is win it all next year, that's it, it's easy really. Aw shit next year Cleveland sports either gets a championship or possibly gets f'd in the a once again.
 
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All this criticism of LBJ is overboard, in my opinion. Did he make a mistake, absolutely. Dan Patrick summed it up pretty well (summarizing) LBJ is always available and is very respectful. He is disappointed in LBJ because he has carried himself so well and so graciously up to this point.

But to call him a self absorbed brat? Really?
 
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I will defend LBj in this situation...shake hands? When the team has confetti, they are happy...no...I have no problem with him leaving the court...

Who cares about the media...he talks to them all the time...He keeps them in a job, i understand he is obligated to talk to the media, but if he doesn't one time after a season ending loss who gives a shit...

THe media drags him through the mud after one thing like this, and they want him to talk to them all the time...kinda goes both ways one would think...

As for LBJ/Jordan...

Jordan is who he is because of the titles...Obviously another top 50 player in the history of the game playing alongside him helped...

If you would put a top 50 guy alongside LBJ they would rule the league...Some have mentioned Amare, Bosh...Guys that are all-stars year in and year out but not top 50 players, and still with guys like that I think they would rule the league...

So if LBJ is able to put up title victories anywhere around 4, depending on the talent that he has around him, he will go down as the best player and surpassing Jordan...

The kid is 24...Yeah the jumpshot is not great yet, he is still finding his niche for his game...His free throw stroke is not great...Give him next year, and I think he improves all that with the way he works on his game and I think we honeslty could see a title in Cleveland and LBJ really starting his legacy...If not he will stay in Cleveland and bring a guy like Bosh in with him and win one that year...
 
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I don't give a fuck about the Cavs. That being said, you put Pippen with Lebron...is that really a question in anyones mind? Is it up for debate what would happen? The Cavs would be winning their third straight title this year.
 
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crazybuckfan40;1477063; said:
I will defend LBj in this situation...shake hands? When the team has confetti, they are happy...no...I have no problem with him leaving the court...
he missed an opportunity show some real class, be the king. for me one of my favorite part of playoff hockey is when both teams line up after a series and shake hands. everytime ive ever seen it is has shocked me. the time it takes for 20 guys with skates on to shake hands. these guys physically spent between 4 and 7 games attempting to kill each other (in some instances literally, some figuratively). i always liked that.

Who cares about the media...lbj should, they hold the key in some relevance to his popularity. that being said does he have to care, no. but i tend to think he does care. he talks to them all the time... and i commend him for that. he realizes he derives value from that, free advertisement for his personal brand...He keeps them in a job, i understand he is obligated to talk to the media, but if he doesn't one time after a season ending loss who gives a [censored]...if hes contractually obligated (as it appears he was) then he should. sorry but in addition to that its in lebrons best interest to do it, it really is. whether he realizes that in the moment, he knows it. whether he "owes" it to the fans, kids, media, etc is debateable, imo. but given time to rationalize it hed spend some sort of time with them, thats been shown by him before.

THe media drags him through the mud after one thing like this, not any different than anyother high level person. be it obama, bush, liddy, ceo, poli, sports star, movie star, etc.and they want him to talk to them all the time...not doubt who wouldnt?kinda goes both ways one would think...so lebron should pick and chose when he wants to talk and only talk then? maybe theyd chose to listen only when they want to listen, write only the snipets they want, etc... it is a two way street no doubt bu tthats not the attitude he should want or take.

As for LBJ/Jordan...

Jordan is who he is because of the titles...Obviously another top 50 player in the history of the game playing alongside him helped...
id have to look it up but pippen wasnt the same with hakeem and sir charles one year after playing with mj...

If you would put a top 50 guy alongside LBJ they would rule the league...Some have mentioned Amare, Bosh...Guys that are all-stars year in and year out but not top 50 players, and still with guys like that I think they would rule the league...
could/would/should. the thing is now who wants to play with lbj, will he take the pay need be to assemble a detroit red wings caliber roster?

So if LBJ is able to put up title victories anywhere around 4, depending on the talent that he has around him, he will go down as the best player and surpassing Jordan...
under the assumption you automatically crown mj the greatest ever. those old timers dont... wilt, russell, kareem etc...

The kid is 24...and a 5 year vet. (it will be intersting to see if him, kobe, garnett can play till 35 or whether they are cooked after say 13-16 years..)Yeah the jumpshot is not great yethis 3 ball has improved greatly., he is still finding his niche for his gamehes got his niche......His free throw stroke is not great...Give him next year, and I think he improves all that with the way he works on his game and I think we honeslty could see a title in Cleveland and LBJ really starting his legacy...If not he will stay in Cleveland and bring a guy like Bosh in with him and win one that year...
personally id like to see the cavs run a high pick and roll with a bigger player who can pull of the screen and pop or roll. with those two im not sure how you could defend it.. im really not sure how with the way the game is officiated today. (few if any offensive foul calls)
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KING;1478131; said:
LOS ANGELES -- NBA commissioner David Stern says LeBron James has been fined $25,000 for skipping the postgame news conference after Cleveland lost to Orlando in the Eastern Conference finals.

Cont...LeBron James fined $25K for skipping postgame news conference - ESPN
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I wonder if he would've got a smaller fine if he had elbowed somebody in the face instead of skipping out on the media?

Who cares what the player on the losing team has to say anyway? It wasn't the right move by LeBron, but it's not as if we're still reading or watching Jordan interviews from the times he got bounced in the playoffs.
 
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jo4h said:
Jordan is who he is because of the titles...Obviously another top 50 player in the history of the game playing alongside him helped...

id have to look it up but pippen wasnt the same with hakeem and sir charles one year after playing with mj...
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Take a look at the year that Pippen had in '94, when he was in his prime and Jordan was off playing baseball.

He was 3rd in the MVP voting, with these numbers:

22.0 ppg, 8.7 rebounds, 5.6 assists, 2.9 steals.
 
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BB73;1478383; said:
Take a look at the year that Pippen had in '94, when he was in his prime and Jordan was off playing baseball.

He was 3rd in the MVP voting, with these numbers:

22.0 ppg, 8.7 rebounds, 5.6 assists, 2.9 steals.
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If he'd had a Pippen he might've won a championship that year. :tongue2:
 
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