Lance Armstrong

[SEREbuckeye]

I'm confused. They came off as "jealous people," but they were right. Many of them were eyewitnesses. One of them heard him admit to using. Lance went to great lenghths make these people out to be vindictive jealous liars. And the whole time he was the vindictive liar. Right?

Not sure how you are confused. Its simple, if you make an accusation and you have the evidence to back it up, you will be justified in your claims. If you dont have evidence, you dont have a case and it will be easy to shut you down. Evidence is everything. Period.

Im not standing up for Armstrong. I did before because there was no evidence, none. I dont listen to hearsay. Show me the proof or go away. There was no failed tests at the time. There still hasnt been any evidence given to the press, but we have a confession now.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

I don't care whether they had evidence, my point is that Lance attempted to eviscerate these people when he knew he was the one lying.

Let me get this straight...if someone would accuse you of something, and you did it, but you knew he/she had zero evidence against you, that you'd publicly admit that you did it? I seriously, seriously doubt.

 

[jwinslow]

Let me get this straight...if someone would accuse you of something, and you did it, but you knew he/she had zero evidence against you, that you'd publicly admit that you did it? I seriously, seriously doubt.

Many people would probably dig a deeper grave. That doesn't excuse the additional lies, especially if those lies destroy careers.

 

[OH10]

Not sure how you are confused. Its simple, if you make an accusation and you have the evidence to back it up, you will be justified in your claims. If you dont have evidence, you dont have a case and it will be easy to shut you down. Evidence is everything. Period.

Again, you realize most of the people were direct eyewitnesses, right?

Im not standing up for Armstrong. I did before because there was no evidence, none. I dont listen to hearsay. Show me the proof or go away. There was no failed tests at the time. There still hasnt been any evidence given to the press, but we have a confession now.

So the guy that has been engaging in lying for years in such a vociferous manner that includes filing frivolous lawsuits for defamation just all of a sudden confesses in the face of no evidence? That's rich.

I'll tell you this. If I were a murderer and the only evidence against me was the testimony of multiple eyewitnesses who saw me pull the trigger, I'd want you on my jury.

 

[Fungo Squiggly]

Let me get this straight...if someone would accuse you of something, and you did it, but you knew he/she had zero evidence against you, that you'd publicly admit that you did it? I seriously, seriously doubt.

Despite all appearances to the contrary, some people still have integrity.

Of course, they usually aren't the ones that cheat and lie about it.

 

[Wingate1217]

Let me get this straight...if someone would accuse you of something, and you did it, but you knew he/she had zero evidence against you, that you'd publicly admit that you did it? I seriously, seriously doubt.

I would hope a lot of us on this board would have the integrity not to do it in the first place.....

Unfortunately, Lance is right up there with Barry Bonds, and Pete Rose and some other folks who I can't remember right now....
Alzheimer's is a bitch......

And I would probably keep my mouth shut until I had evidence unless I was a Penn State Fan....Evidents and Facts!!!!!

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

And I would probably keep my mouth shut until I had evidence unless I was a Penn State Fan....EVIDENTS and FACTS!!!!!

fify

 

[MaxBuck]

Armstrong is a cheating spouse and serial womanizer who abandoned a critically ill wife. He's also a cancer survivor who has raised nearly half a billion dollars for cancer research. He's a phenomenal athlete who trained his ass off so he could compete at the highest level of his sport. But he cheated to do so by using PEDs. Like about 95% of his competitors. And then he lied about doing so. Again like most of his competitors.

Anyone who treats Armstrong as though his case is a simple one of right and wrong, black and white, is ignoring a lot. It's a complicated situation, and he's a complicated man.

 

[matcar]

Let me get this straight...if someone would accuse you of something, and you did it, but you knew he/she had zero evidence against you, that you'd publicly admit that you did it? I seriously, seriously doubt.

I'm not asking him to come clean, I am asking that he not actively work to destroy careers of those in his path. Huge difference, but you knew that and threw out that strawman to deflect. His behavior is indefensible.

 

[Mike80]

JFC...hyperbole much? Tell me just one person whose life Armstrong "destroyed"...

Sheryl Crow?

Actually he should get a medal for taming that Skeletor-looking Velociraptor...

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

I'm not asking him to come clean, I am asking at he not actively work to destroy careers of those in his path.

Those "in his path" were his cyclist comptetitors, not those making accusations without "EVIDENTS!!" Those who knew the man and still chose to make unsubstantiated claims had no one to blame but themselves when LA took them to task for it.

The thing that gets me the most is, where is all the rage against all the other cyclists who doped (and yes, including other major race winners)?

 

[matcar]

Those "in his path" were his cyclist comptetitors, not those making accusations without "EVIDENTS!!" Those who knew the man and still chose to make unsubstantiated claims had no one to blame but themselves when LA took them to task for it.

The thing that gets me the most is, where is all the rage against all the other cyclists who doped (and yes, including other major race winners)?

No they weren't. Some were other people in his group of support. Did you even read this article that was linked to in this thread?

http://www.outsideonline.com/outdoo...ng/My-Life-With-Lance-Armstrong.html?page=all

There are literally dozens of links on the web to people he has gone after. Again, it's not that he doped that makes him a villain, it's that he went after those who knew the truth, lawsuits ablazing and making it impossible at times to earn a living. You keep trying to deflect from this...it doesn't work.

 

[Saw31]

So Lance Armstrong cheated. I bet he had a ball while doing it...

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

No they weren't. Some were other people in his group of support. Did you even read this article that was linked to in this thread?

Yeah, I read that article when it first came out, and it smacks of a scorned, butt-hurt little shit.

 

[matcar]

Yeah, I read that article when it first came out, and it smacks of a scorned, butt-hurt little [Mark May].

I could see feeling that way before Lance coming clean, but if you still feel that way knowing that this guy was correct, and like dozens of others, was witch hunted by Lance, then you are hilariously lost. You think he's butthurt, but don't recognize that Lance was the butthurt one attempting to silence everyone. That's rich. Lance was the butthurt one Mili....he was the loser all along.