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lvbuckeye
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i'm of the opinion that the reason for the somewhat irrational expectations for Ohio State is, to a degree, directly related to the performance of the Browns (and to a lesser degree, the Bengals. and Tribe. and Cavs. and Reds...) it's been said before and it bears repeating. Ohio State fans are more emotionally tied to the successes and failures of the team than any other college football fan base... Cleveland (and Cincinnati) teams suck perennially, or blow it when they actually have a chance. we might be "fans" of one or the other, but due to years and years of ineptitude, we disconnected emotionally from them long ago. so we end up pinning all of our hopes on Ohio State, because at least they have a chance of being good. if the pro teams were at least competitive, if not good, then i think there would be less emotional reliance on Ohio State to be successful. i find myself doing it. i'll be talking to someone about sports, and it comes up that i'm a Cleveland fan, and they say, "man that's gotta be rough," and i inevitably reply, "that's okay. at least the Buckeyes are good." well, what happens when the Buckeyes aren't good? what do we have to fall back on then? since we've given up on the pro teams, we find ourselves lashing out at the one team we're still emotionally tied to (but not actually the principle source of our competitive frustration) the Buckeyes.
Tressel wasn't kidding when he called the fans miserable. no fucking shit. all our sports hopes and dreams are pinned up a bunch of 18-22 year old college kids. there isn't another city in the country that holds a candle to Cleveland when it comes to pent up sports frustration. and he should know that best of all. he was living in Berea 45 years ago... the last time Cleveland won a championship in anything. Cincy is a little better, but not much. 1990 was still a long time ago.
so please, coach Tressel. get a better offense. if for nothing else than to assuage some of your fellow Browns fans angst!
Tressel wasn't kidding when he called the fans miserable. no fucking shit. all our sports hopes and dreams are pinned up a bunch of 18-22 year old college kids. there isn't another city in the country that holds a candle to Cleveland when it comes to pent up sports frustration. and he should know that best of all. he was living in Berea 45 years ago... the last time Cleveland won a championship in anything. Cincy is a little better, but not much. 1990 was still a long time ago.
so please, coach Tressel. get a better offense. if for nothing else than to assuage some of your fellow Browns fans angst!
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For all those who complained about how awful it is to lose to Purdue, Nebraska just lost to Iowa State at home...
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BUCKYLE
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lvbuckeye;1574404; said:
Can't speak for the rest of Ohio, but when I started following sports, the Bengals were going to the Super Bowl and the Reds were going wire to wire in first place on their way to a sweep of the A's. None of which mattered a bit. It's always been about the Buckeyes.
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martinss01
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lvbuckeye;1574404; said:
what does browns fans frustrations with their team have to do with the tOSU coaching staff? should we raise hell with our local highschool head coach when tOSU falters?
based on the # of scummers on both rosters i suspect the school more closely related to their performace is further north...
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scarletngray
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I've loved how Greise just continued to give his support to Tress throughout the game today.
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Buckskin86
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Should Jim Tressel run for office or pass on it?
By Doug Lesmerises
October 30, 2009
Marvin Fong, The Plain Dealer
Former Nebraska head football coach and former U.S Congressman Tom Osborne thinks Ohio State head coach Jim Tressel could handle the transition from football to politics just fine. Tom Osborne knows better than most what choices Jim Tressel faces as he approaches the rest of his career as a football coach, and beyond.
With a personally conservative style, a connection to the offensive side of the game, national championships (three at Nebraska for Osborne, four at Youngstown State and one at Ohio State for Tressel), lots of wins (255 for Osborne, 224 for Tressel) and a career linked with a troubled star running back (Lawrence Phillips for Osborne, Maurice Clarett for Tressel), the former Nebraska coach and current Ohio State coach share past experiences. Maybe the future could share some similarities as well.
This time of year, with Election Day four days off, outsiders like to wonder about a potential political future for Tressel, who has always said he's more interested in teaching whenever he stops coaching. Sixteen years older than Tressel, Osborne, 72, took the political path.
Osborne served six years in the U.S. House of Representatives, ran unsuccessfully for Nebraska governor, and returned to Nebraska in 2007 as the school's athletic director. He also had a book published recently, "Beyond the Final Score: There's More to Life than the Game." In an interview earlier this season, he spoke about his choices and whether Tressel might fit a similar mold.
# On his decision to retire as Nebraska's coach in 1997 at age 60. (Tressel is 56.)
"I didn't have a definitive game plan, but I made a promise, it must have been about 1992 or so, that I would leave within five years, and five years came and went and I thought I'd better keep that promise. So I did and I had to figure out what I was going to do with myself, because I had quite a bit of energy. So I decided to run for Congress, and I learned a lot. I didn't ever anticipate being athletic director.
"The other thing about it was I was serving as offensive coordinator, and I really enjoyed that, I enjoyed calling the plays. I wanted to be heavily involved. And you can become a CEO head coach, where you do the press conference and you make decisions on whether to accept a penalty or refuse it, but you aren't involved in the day-to-day coaching, and when Saturday afternoon comes, if things go south, you're really at the mercy of your coordinators. (Tressel has expressed similar reservations about stepping away from play-calling and becoming a CEO type.) I wasn't anxious to coach as a CEO type, but I realized as I hit 60, I probably wasn't going to be able to maintain the pace, working 80 or 90 hours a week. If I was calling the plays, I had to spend an extra 30 hours a week watching film and getting a feel for what the other team was doing, and then with the other things a head coach does, it gets pretty wild."
Should Jim Tressel run for office or pass on it? | Ohio State Buckeyes - cleveland.com - - cleveland.com
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CalvinistBuck
I don't mind being called a liar when I am lying.
Loved this comment by JT in the presser:
"Joe... you know him, he's the perfect gentleman. His comment was, "Hey, Jimmy, your kids played really well." And that's the way he is. He's great for the game. He's a legend. Sometimes I pinch myself to think that I've had a chance to coach against him," Tressel said.
Buckeye fans are blessed. Having a coach with class never gets old.
"Joe... you know him, he's the perfect gentleman. His comment was, "Hey, Jimmy, your kids played really well." And that's the way he is. He's great for the game. He's a legend. Sometimes I pinch myself to think that I've had a chance to coach against him," Tressel said.
Buckeye fans are blessed. Having a coach with class never gets old.
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CalvinistBuck;1588875; said:
Betcha there ain't too many folks that get to call him "Jimmy".
By the way, there are three teams in the Big Ten that have over 800 all-time wins: Michigan, Ohio State, and Penn State. Against Michigan and Penn State, Tressel is 13-4.
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