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Jim Tressel (National Champion, ex-President, Youngstown State University, CFB HOF)

Roundabout;1933524; said:
I think he is a coach that is out of his era, todays big money game with its rules and "handlers" and all the junk that comes with it just was to much for him and what he's best at. Great coach, and teacher of men... Put him in the 50's and 60's or let him coach D3 football in todays crazy world.

I'd love for him to teach my son to grow into a man, but unless college sports changes a ton... what makes him such a great coach/teacher will make him the guy that will stick out his neck for that troubled kid, (thinks he can save everyone) and end up where he is today.


I say we put him in the 50's or 60's it would prove that Ohio State is more than a football factory in that we actually discovered time travel
 
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Today I had lunch with a senior administrator at a major brand name college football program. I wore my Ohio State alumni tie. We talk football and Jim Tressel came up.

"Our people are amazed about this. They tell me that Jim Tressel cleaned up the Ohio State program. His players do well in the classroom. He speaks well of other colleges. We would have thought that this entire affair was a minor issue. Just think about Auburn, USC. This should not have happened to this man. Our guys tell me he was one of the good guys and a great coach. This just shouldn't have happened."
 
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Steve19;1933595; said:
Today I had lunch with a senior administrator at a major brand name college football program. I wore my Ohio State alumni tie. We talk football and Jim Tressel came up.

"Our people are amazed about this. They tell me that Jim Tressel cleaned up the Ohio State program. His players do well in the classroom. He speaks well of other colleges. We would have thought that this entire affair was a minor issue. Just think about Auburn, USC. This should not have happened to this man. Our guys tell me he was one of the good guys and a great coach. This just shouldn't have happened."

He took a bullet in the vest for the school. I feel that the coach cares so much about Ohio State that he would resign to allow the school to move on. Is it just me who thinks the AD knew as well as others, just speculating and will wait for the truth to be known. This thing doesn't smell right...

I will always remain a Jim Tressel believer.
 
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utgrad73;1933620; said:
He took a bullet in the vest for the school. I feel that the coach cares so much about Ohio State that he would resign to allow the school to move on. Is it just me who thinks the AD knew as well as others, just speculating and will wait for the truth to be known. This thing doesn't smell right...

I will always remain a Jim Tressel believer.


I think he did tell them but verbally so theres no proof. Its not what they know but what they can prove!
 
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utgrad73;1933620; said:
He took a bullet in the vest for the school. I feel that the coach cares so much about Ohio State that he would resign to allow the school to move on. Is it just me who thinks the AD knew as well as others, just speculating and will wait for the truth to be known. This thing doesn't smell right...

I will always remain a Jim Tressel believer.

When this first started to look like it might get ugly, that's exactly what I was afraid might happen, and I think you're right. That's the kind of guy he is. I hate that all of the media idiots and every Buckeye hater with an internet connection are piling on and really crapping all over Tressel's character. He is so opposite of the way he's being represented because of all this. I really hope that somehow all of the comments of support from the people who really know him are able to be made as public as the crap we're seeing now.

He really deserves better than this. That really bothers me.
 
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utgrad73;1933620; said:
He took a bullet in the vest for the school. I feel that the coach cares so much about Ohio State that he would resign to allow the school to move on. Is it just me who thinks the AD knew as well as others, just speculating and will wait for the truth to be known. This thing doesn't smell right...

I will always remain a Jim Tressel believer.

You and me both, my friend...

:osu:
 
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Ohio State officials will argue that the school should be spared, in part because they got rid of Tressel, the head of the program that has been so tainted by wrongdoing. For years, Ohio State benefited from Tressel's choirboy image. Now, the university is likely to paint him as a huge problem that has been eliminated for the betterment of the athletic department.
It is not the noblest of tactics, but it adheres to an axiom of big-time college football, one that Jim Tressel has heeded for years: You do whatever it takes to win.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/magazine/05/30/jim.tressel/index.html

There is so much hyperbole here it makes me sick. This guy gets paid to write this stuff. I find it interesting that our coach's resignation was predicted before he actually did it. Wasn't this article available to the staff at OSU on Friday before Memorial Day, but this is written as if it was after the fact. Then again "you do whatever it takes to" sell a stadium full of SI magazines.

College football lost one of the best coaches on the planet. No one at SI or any other jaded newspaper, blog, or locker room wall will ever convince me that Jim Tressel is any thing less.
 
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utgrad73;1933620; said:
He took a bullet in the vest for the school. I feel that the coach cares so much about Ohio State that he would resign to allow the school to move on. Is it just me who thinks the AD knew as well as others, just speculating and will wait for the truth to be known. This thing doesn't smell right...

I will always remain a Jim Tressel believer.

Agreed 100%. I've thought that all along as well. This whole ordeal still [censored]es me off, because I feel that Tress did take the bullet here. I think as time passes and history builds, his legacy will become iconic (as I stated earlier) and Ohio State will realize how big of a mistake they made in forcing him out.

People may question his motives, but you can never question his impact on and off the field. Ohio State will not see a level of success like he produced over a decade in the foreseeable future....... I hate to say it, but it's the truth.

People took coach for granted, mainly because he wasn't flashy.....he just won football games and ran a great program.
 
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utgrad73;1933620; said:
He took a bullet in the vest for the school. I feel that the coach cares so much about Ohio State that he would resign to allow the school to move on. Is it just me who thinks the AD knew as well as others, just speculating and will wait for the truth to be known. This thing doesn't smell right...

daddyphatsacs;1933817; said:
Agreed 100%. I've thought that all along as well. This whole ordeal still [censored]es me off, because I feel that Tress did take the bullet here.

"Take the bullet" means what? That he is engaging in more NCAA violations by withholding information about wrong doing in compliance or admin? I don't get this line of thought, even though it has been a pretty popular opinion here. Coach Tressel had a duty to report wrong doing in the program, no matter if a student or an AD. He obviously failed to do that with the tat-5 cover up. For Coach Tressel to "take the bullet" of necessity has to mean that Tress was covering for somebody who would get in even more trouble if their role was known. If true, and I personally don't accept that it is, then Coach Tressel would be engaged in even more improper behavior and violations than has been admitted, and covering up for others in the program who have also violated NCAA rules - people who would subject you to LOIC charges.

I mean, feel free to think it, but if you accept that view you have to launch the one that says your program and former coach were dedicated to doing the right thing, absent one significant error, and replace it with one that has the program committing major violations, Coach Tressel committing major violations, and Coach Tressel and the program conspiring to commit even more major violations - at least running an intentionally deceptive press conference in March * to cover up detection of the worse program violations.

( * as opposed to the intentionally deceptive December press conference).

I just don't buy the second theory that he did more bad stuff in taking a bullet for the program. If he did, his ethics come into serious question to anyone who is not a Buckeye fan, as the factual predicate of the "take a bullet" theory at its core requires that Tress conspire to defraud the NCAA by covering up other tOSU major program violations.

Can't he just be an otherwise good man who made one uncharacteristically bad decision?
 
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Gatorubet;1933826; said:
"Take the bullet" means what? That he is engaging in more NCAA violations by withholding information about wrong doing in compliance or admin? I don't get this line of thought, even though it has been a pretty popular opinion here. Coach Tressel had a duty to report wrong doing in the program, no matter if a student or an AD. He obviously failed to do that with the tat-5 cover up. For Coach Tressel to "take the bullet" of necessity has to mean that Tress was covering for somebody who would get in even more trouble if their role was known. If true, and I personally don't accept that it is, then Coach Tressel would be engaged in even more improper behavior and violations than has been admitted, and covering up for others in the program who have also violated NCAA rules - people who would subject to you LOIC charges.

I mean, feel free to think it, but if you accept that view you have to launch the one that says your program and former coach were dedicated to doing the right thing, absent one significant error, and replace it with one that has the program committing major violations, Coach Tressel committing major violations, and Coach Tressel and the program conspiring to commit even more major violations - at least running an intentionally deceptive press conference in March * to cover up detection of the worse program violations.

( * as opposed to the intentionally deceptive December press conference).

I just don't buy the second theory that he did more bad stuff in taking a bullet for the program. If he did, his ethics come into serious question to anyone who is not a Buckeye fan, as the factual predicate of the "take a bullet" theory at its core requires that Tress conspire to defraud the NCAA by covering up other tOSU major program violations.

Can't he just be an otherwise good man who made one uncharacteristically bad decision?

For fucks sake.
Some believe he did notify compliance or Gene Smith about the violations. Resigning without telling the NCAA that he did notify someone doesn't make him a better man, but it sure as fuck doesn't make him worse. It just means he fell on the sword to protect the university he loves.
 
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This piling on is starting to "piss me off." Report the facts not your freakin' opinion without supporting evidence (and I know it is an opinion piece)....And this is from one of our own folks.....:(
CNN.com producer Brad Lendon received his degree in journalism from The Ohio State University in 1981.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/06/02/ohio.state.football.fan/index.html?&hpt=hp_c2

"I am very proud of the academic accomplishments of our nearly 1,000 men and women athletes," Gee writes. "In fact, as reported last week in this paper and others, Ohio State's football team ranked first in academic performance among the nation's top 25 teams. Clearly, those young men are very appropriately taking advantage of the opportunity to pursue their educational dreams."
So I'm supposed to believe that the football players had time between the tattoo parlor and the car dealerships to go to class? They were taking advantage of opportunities, I'm sure, but I seriously doubt an education was among them.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out....fair weather Buckeye....

So I've had enough of Tressel and Gee and Pryor and the lot. I'm putting the scarlet and gray T-shirts and sweatshirts in the back of the closet. I'm deleting the Buckeye Bleacher Report from my e-mail. And I'm not going to pay attention to college football ...
... At least until November 26, when they kick off the annual showdown with That Team Up North.
 
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Gatorubet;1933826; said:
"Take the bullet" means what? That he is engaging in more NCAA violations by withholding information about wrong doing in compliance or admin? I don't get this line of thought, even though it has been a pretty popular opinion here. Coach Tressel had a duty to report wrong doing in the program, no matter if a student or an AD. He obviously failed to do that with the tat-5 cover up. For Coach Tressel to "take the bullet" of necessity has to mean that Tress was covering for somebody who would get in even more trouble if their role was known. If true, and I personally don't accept that it is, then Coach Tressel would be engaged in even more improper behavior and violations than has been admitted, and covering up for others in the program who have also violated NCAA rules - people who would subject you to LOIC charges.

I mean, feel free to think it, but if you accept that view you have to launch the one that says your program and former coach were dedicated to doing the right thing, absent one significant error, and replace it with one that has the program committing major violations, Coach Tressel committing major violations, and Coach Tressel and the program conspiring to commit even more major violations - at least running an intentionally deceptive press conference in March * to cover up detection of the worse program violations.

( * as opposed to the intentionally deceptive December press conference).

I just don't buy the second theory that he did more bad stuff in taking a bullet for the program. If he did, his ethics come into serious question to anyone who is not a Buckeye fan, as the factual predicate of the "take a bullet" theory at its core requires that Tress conspire to defraud the NCAA by covering up other tOSU major program violations.

Can't he just be an otherwise good man who made one uncharacteristically bad decision?

Can't "taking the bullet" just mean that he "mutually agreed to resign" in the middle of a shitstorm in an attempt to curtail the media feeding frenzy, and not include something nefarious?

In that aspect, it's similar to what Andy Geiger did a few years ago.

And no, I don't need to be told that Geiger didn't have a 10.1 violation hanging over his head.
 
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