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Jim Tressel (National Champion, ex-President, Youngstown State University, CFB HOF)

Wingate1217;1933895; said:
This piling on is starting to "piss me off." Report the facts not your freakin' opinion without supporting evidence (and I know it is an opinion piece)....And this is from one of our own folks.....:(
CNN.com producer Brad Lendon received his degree in journalism from The Ohio State University in 1981.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/06/02/ohio.state.football.fan/index.html?&hpt=hp_c2

"I am very proud of the academic accomplishments of our nearly 1,000 men and women athletes," Gee writes. "In fact, as reported last week in this paper and others, Ohio State's football team ranked first in academic performance among the nation's top 25 teams. Clearly, those young men are very appropriately taking advantage of the opportunity to pursue their educational dreams."
So I'm supposed to believe that the football players had time between the tattoo parlor and the car dealerships to go to class? They were taking advantage of opportunities, I'm sure, but I seriously doubt an education was among them.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out....fair weather Buckeye....

So I've had enough of Tressel and Gee and Pryor and the lot. I'm putting the scarlet and gray T-shirts and sweatshirts in the back of the closet. I'm deleting the Buckeye Bleacher Report from my e-mail. And I'm not going to pay attention to college football ...
... At least until November 26, when they kick off the annual showdown with That Team Up North.
So I'm supposed to believe that the Brad Lendon had time between the bag of dick eating and horse cock sucking to go to class? He was taking advantage of opportunities to fellate various STD infected farm animals, I'm sure, but I seriously doubt an education was something he cared about.
 
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BUCKYLE;1933828; said:
For [censored]s sake.
Some believe he did notify compliance or Gene Smith about the violations. Resigning without telling the NCAA that he did notify someone doesn't make him a better man, but it sure as [censored] doesn't make him worse. It just means he fell on the sword to protect the university he loves.
Kyle - if some SEC coach failed to notify the NCAA that Auburn's AD knew about a violation (let's make one up - like buying a player :p) - would the fact that the SEC coach lied "to protect the university he loves" somehow transform it into a noble and/or "less bad" thing?

Is the sliding scale something like, "It's OK to do some unethical [Mark May] ...as long as we protect the University we love" - but "a display of unethical SEC cheating because it is a university with which we have no emotional connection"?

News flash man - the Coaches at many SEC schools love the Universities they work for too. Does that make an SEC cover up somehow OK if it protected the school? Would the fact that alumnus and die hard Gator Coach Spurrier took a bullet for UF not "make it worse" because it was UF - but if he covered up something to protect USCe he DID do something worse - because he took a paycheck and was not a "loves" the University guy?

Maybe I am nuts, but I don't expect my coach to violate NCAA rules whether he really loves dear old UF, or is just collecting 3.7 Million a year. If either one of those hypothetical UF coaches violates NCAA rules by not disclosing violations by my AD or compliance - that lying coach does not make me want to slap him on the back as a good guy. He just helped set UF up for the death penalty by his actions. [censored] taking a bullet!

I think Tressel made the one big mistake. I don't think he's hiding worse stuff by your AD and compliance. If he did, I can't see why that is something to think well of him about.
 
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Buckeyefrankmp;1933513; said:
No doubt about it.


This will be interesting to watch in the years to come. I don't know if they will go after the Pac-10 as hard since they are not as strong of a competitor to the SEC/ESPN as the BigTen/BigTen Network is.

Somebody brought up the interesting point, that I hadn't considered, of how hard are they going to go after Oregon given all the Nike ad dollars flowing through Bristol. I'm sure they would treat Ohio State with kid gloves if every third commercial on their networks was for Victoria's Secret.
 
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BB73;1933899; said:
Can't "taking the bullet" just mean that he "mutually agreed to resign" in the middle of a [Mark May]storm in an attempt to curtail the media feeding frenzy, and not include something nefarious?
It could, but that was not the meaning used in the two quotes I included. I think the University did what they did for exactly the reasons in your quote.
 
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Gatorubet;1933826; said:
"Take the bullet" means what?
I just don't buy the second theory that he did more bad stuff in taking a bullet for the program. If he did, his ethics come into serious question to anyone who is not a Buckeye fan, as the factual predicate of the "take a bullet" theory at its core requires that Tress conspire to defraud the NCAA by covering up other tOSU major program violations.

Can't he just be an otherwise good man who made one uncharacteristically bad decision?

OK, since it's out there now, I did mean "taking the bullet" in the same context as falling on his sword. I believe he's a good man. I believe what he did was for the good of the overall program. I believe that he was trying to spare the University further turmoil. I believe that others knew and rather than rat them out, he decided to "take the bullet". We can argue definintions and meanings another time. The plain truth is JT is a good man that got caught trying to navigate the *&^t storm that he knew was coming. Confused by the feds who were investigating Rife etc, muddied by media coverage, the Dispatch, ESPN, SI and every damn Buckeye hater out there with a voice that made this worse than it is. Let's face it, the Buckeyes are being investigated (no exploited) as bad guys along with their coach because the NCAA needs to reign in someone on this problem and make an example out of them. Couldn't prove Cam Newton did anything wrong, couldn't do much with the current USC team because the offenders are no longer playing, couldn't do much at Michigan either because their coach was too much of a putz (they self report the program gets even worse). It appears that the NCAA doesn't want to be viewed as weak and without teeth, so enter the Buckeyes with the good-guy coach. The timing was terrible, the cascade of events even worse, and now they have to face the music. This is not elegant lawyer-like discourse, but simple viewpoints from a simple guy who sees things as they are.

Go Bucks!
 
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http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6626390



UPPER ARLINGTON, Ohio -- Former Ohio State football coach Jim Tressel told people at a rally on his front doorstep that he would always be a Buckeye and that the team will beat Michigan again this November.
After a crowd of some 200 people had sung a song disparaging the archrival Wolverines early Saturday evening, Tressel said, "Don't forget: Nov. 27th we're going to kick their ass!"

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Don't forget: Nov. 27th we're going to kick their ass!
? -- Jim Tressel at doorstep fan rally regarding Michigan game​

That brought the loudest cheer of the day from the group, which had walked a half mile in 90-degree heat from a rallying point at a nearby park to Tressel's expansive French Provincial home in this Columbus suburb near campus.
Tressel was forced to resign Monday for his role in covering up his knowledge of his players taking improper benefits from a Columbus tattoo-parlor owner.
Those in the rally cheered, sang the alma mater and held up signs that said, "You're in Our Prayers," "We Support You, Jim!" and "We Love You, Coach Tressel."
Tressel and his wife, Ellen, posed for dozens of pictures, shook hands and thanked those in attendance.
 
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Call it what you will - "cheesy" "bad timing/taste" etc etc...

I love it. I'm sure coach & his family truly appreciate it.

There's always one thing a person likes knowing, their efforts and time we're well received, respected and now... missed.

God bless The Vest.
 
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Buffalo News

DiPaolo sees a different Jim Tressel

Former Ohio State coach and former teammate remains good friend of restaurant owner

By Jerry Sullivan
News Senior Sports Columnist
Published:June 5, 2011, 12:48 AM


Updated: June 5, 2011, 12:48 AM
As a senior at Lackawanna High in 1973, Dennis DiPaolo assumed he was going to play college football at Youngstown State. Ron Jaworski, the pride of Lackawanna, was finishing his career at Youngstown. One of DiPaolo's best friends was committed to play there. Dennis figured his recruiting trip was a mere formality.
Gordy Bukaty, the athletic director at Lackawanna, told Ilio DiPaolo that as long as he was taking his son on a visit to Ohio, he should stop and see Lee Tressel, an old friend who was the head football coach at Baldwin-Wallace in suburban Cleveland.
"I'm set in my mind that I'm going to Youngstown," DiPaolo recalled Saturday. "I thought, 'This is perfect.' Then we go to Baldwin-Wallace. We're there for 10 minutes. My father meets Lee Tressel, shakes his hand and looks him in the eye.
"We get back in the Cadillac and head back to Buffalo. My father says, 'What do you think?' I said, 'Dad, are you kidding me? Youngstown, of course.' He said, 'I don't think so. You're going to Baldwin, uh, whatever the hell the name of it is.'"


Cont...
 
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Gatorubet;1933826; said:
Can't he just be an otherwise good man who made one uncharacteristically bad decision?
Actually, I believe this is exactly how most Buckeye fans regard the man. It's the over-the-top bullshit that dipwits like Dohrmann write that pisses us off, as their verbiage almost always paints Coach Tressel as a venal, hypocritical, win-at-all-cost villain.

The implication embodied by these smear pieces, that we've cheered a slimeball for the past 10 years, makes me ill. It's not only inaccurate, it's about 180 degrees removed from reality.
 
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So I was in middle Georgia this weekend for my MIL's 90th birthday. Discussing Tressel's situation with a couple of knowledgeable and attentive UGA fans, it was "I can't believe this" and "he got railed" and "one of the good guys" and "over tattoos?" and such. Then the conversation drifted off into should college athletes be paid, and if so, how so, and how much, and such. At that point a less than knowledgeable UGA fan stuck his head in and said, "Well what about that Ohio State coach who was giving his players free cars?"

I guess this will be Tressel's legacy, as it is Woody's. Those of us inside will always appreciate what he did. Those knowledgeable outsiders will too. But most will consider him a fraud. What a shame. Haters gonna hate.
:osu:
 
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