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Impending Assistant Coach Vacancies

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nomatta said:
Dude has one recruit to his name.

Day might have some reason to think that Barnes will be an asset on the recruiting trail, but at this point he is almost totally unproven in that area.
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I genuinely don’t understand why people put so much stock in websites giving credit to certain coaches for recruiting players.

Again, everyone should go look at Kevin Wilson’s 247 page and note that he is given credit for Zach Harrison’s recruitment which is ridiculous.

Shortly after this people should forget any value they had previously put into these trackers.

Barnes might be able to recruit; he might not be. But let’s not use the total number of players the internet gives him credit for to judge that.

To add on, I think people are substantially over valuing Studrawa as a recruiter based on who he is given credit for by the internet. People who track these things closely don’t seem overly impressed with him, and that is substantially more meaningful evaluation tool IMO.
 
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I think the coach’s recruiting abilities currently stack up something like this:

Elite:
Larry Johnson
Brian Hartline
Al Washington
Jeff Hafley

Good:
Tony Alford
Greg Mattison

Mostly unknown but probably okay:
Kevin Wilson

Mostly unknown but probably not great:
Greg Studrawa

Mostly unknown (but fingers crossed):
Ryan Day
Matt Barnes
Mike Yurcich
 
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We saved a boat load of cash when Raymond turned us down.

I find it curious that neither Stud or Wilson has been “confirmed” to be coming back.

Personally, I’m down for taking the windfall we saved with the Barnes hire and throwing it at a knock out OL coach.
 
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Buckeye86 said:
I think the coach’s recruiting abilities currently stack up something like this:

Elite:
Larry Johnson
Brian Hartline
Al Washington
Jeff Hafley

Good:
Tony Alford
Greg Mattison

Mostly unknown but probably okay:
Kevin Wilson

Mostly unknown but probably not great:
Greg Studrawa

Mostly unknown (but fingers crossed):
Ryan Day
Matt Barnes
Mike Yurcich
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Ryan Day is unknown? The guy that just landed Fields?
 
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Buckeye86 said:
I think the coach’s recruiting abilities currently stack up something like this:

Elite:
Larry Johnson
Brian Hartline
Al Washington
Jeff Hafley

Good:
Tony Alford
Greg Mattison

Mostly unknown but probably okay:
Kevin Wilson

Mostly unknown but probably not great:
Greg Studrawa

Mostly unknown (but fingers crossed):
Ryan Day
Matt Barnes
Mike Yurcich
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How is Washington elite, but Alford isn't? Alford has pulled a number of too FL kids to say the least
 
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pnuts34 said:
How is Washington elite, but Alford isn't? Alford has pulled a number of too FL kids to say the least
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The same reason Kevin Wilson is listed under “mostly unknown but probably okay”. The same Kevin Wilson responsible for offenses featuring two Heisman winners (Jason White and Sam Bradford) and several All Americans including Adrian Peterson, Jason White, Mark Clayton, Sam Bradford, Jermaine Gresham, and a solid number of OL.
 
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TooTallMenardo said:
The same reason Kevin Wilson is listed under “mostly unknown but probably okay”. The same Kevin Wilson responsible for offenses featuring two Heisman winners (Jason White and Sam Bradford) and several All Americans including Adrian Peterson, Jason White, Mark Clayton, Sam Bradford, Jermaine Gresham, and a solid number of OL.
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We recognize that coaching and running an offense is different than recruiting, yes?
 
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pnuts34 said:
How is Washington elite, but Alford isn't? Alford has pulled a number of too FL kids to say the least
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Recent buzz over what an amazing job Washington did with Harrison and the ravages of time fading my memory of any examples of Alford doing the same.

Although Steele Chambers and Marcus Crowley might be great, they are both lower than quite a few other RBs Ohio State was “in” on this cycle.

Was it regionally based and other guys on staff missed those RB prospects? Maybe.

Did we genuinely value those two over the more highly rated prospects? Maybe.

But, that is the recent history that is guiding my subjective opinion on this.
 
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TooTallMenardo said:
I’m sure he had nothing to do with recruiting any of them. Carry on.
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Yeah, he’s probably an okay recruiter. Do you have any examples of kids raving about their connection with him and him being the sole reason they’re going to Ohio State like Larry Johnson consistently has?

Do analysts singularly give him credit for keeping a recruitment alive for a school against the overwhelming hometown favorite like Al Washington pulled off with Harrison?

Do Oklahoma and Indiana fans still rave about what a great recruiter he was almost a decade later like Pitt and Rutgers fans do with Jeff Hafley?

Is he on a run of insanely good commits (with even more in the pipeline) at his primary position like Hartline?

He’s probably pretty good, but compared to those prominent and recent examples, whatever he does is relatively unknown.

I’d be very happy if all of them are super duper elite- I’m just going by what I read about on the interwebs.
 
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