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Duke lax and accusations

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Nifong refused a request for an interview. He is running for re-election in May and was scheduled to take part in a candidate forum Wednesday evening.
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Ding ding ding ding. We have a winner.

He presses the case and he wins the election. He admits an error he looses.

The funny thing is that even if this girl is found to be lying I will still feel sorry for her and her circumstance. I cannot say the same if it is proved the boys did what they were accused of. There is my double standard showing.
 
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another cockrouch trying to move up the ladder of power.

He's done and if people vote for him there pathetic.
I'm happy I don't live there being around people that believe anything.
They fight have done something but, there all guilty before trial.
 
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My post last night was in no way intended to offend, although there was pretty much no way it wasn't going to. What I did was put up the opinion of two very close black friends of mine, and kinda combined the two.

What I don't understand here is how fast this whole thing moved. One would have to believe that Law Enforcement had some pretty compelling evidence for the school to suspend it's Lacrosse schedule and for the Coach to resign. Now, the most compelling evidence of all shows these kids had nothing to do with it. Not a single hair. Not a single drop of sweat, or blood, or semen. We'll see.
 
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They've had victim's advocates (lawyers) on TV that have said that 75-80% of all rape cases don't have definitive DNA evidence, one way or the other. I don't know if that is accurate, but I've heard it more than once, and it's a well-orchestrated lie if it isn't true.

Anyway, who can say right now. There's a lot of anti-poor Iif not anti-black) rhetoric out there right now, and there's a lot of anti-spoiled rich white kids rhetoric too. I guess we'll see what happened here, but I don't think anyone is going to come out of this smelling like a rose.

BTW...supposedly there were two strippers there...what happened to the other chick, and what does she know?
 
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DURHAM, N.C. -- A woman who claims she was sexually assaulted by members of Duke University's lacrosse team was described as "just passed-out drunk" by one of the first police officers to see her, according to a recording of radio traffic released by Durham police on Thursday and obtained by The Associated Press.
The conversation between the officer and a police dispatcher took place about 1:30 a.m. March 14, about five minutes after a grocery store security guard called 911 to report a woman in the parking lot who would not get out of someone else's car.
The officer gave the dispatcher the police code for an intoxicated person and said the woman was unconscious. When asked whether she needed medical help, the officer said: "She's breathing and appears to be fine. She's not in distress. She's just passed-out drunk."
The black woman, a 27-year-old dancer and college student, told police she was sexually assaulted and beaten by three white men around midnight at an off-campus party thrown by Duke's lacrosse team. The racially charged allegations have led Duke to cancel the highly ranked team's season and accept the resignation of its coach.
No charges have been filed, but district attorney Mike Nifong has said he believes a crime was committed. Attorneys for the players have said DNA tests failed to connect any players to the alleged attack, and they have urged Nifong to drop his investigation.
The radio recordings, obtained by the AP through a records request, are the first instance in which police or anyone connected with the investigation has said the woman appeared to be intoxicated.
Defense lawyers, however, have said time-stamped photographs taken by the players show that the accuser was drunk and had already suffered some injuries when she arrived at the house for the party.
The recording is consistent with "what I have seen of the photo evidence before," attorney Kerry Sutton said. Those photos, she said, showed that she was "way beyond where you would put somebody behind the wheel of a car."
The description of the woman's medical exam -- which Nifong has said is his basis for believing a rape occurred -- does not mention her being drunk. It states only that the woman's injuries and behavior were consistent with having been raped, sexually assaulted and having suffered a traumatic experience.
The woman has told police she and another dancer hired to dance at the party arrived at 11:30 p.m. March 13. The pair reportedly left the house a short time later, fearing for their safety. The accuser told police the two were coaxed back into the house with an apology, at which point they were separated. That's when she said she was dragged into a bathroom and sexually assaulted, beaten and choked for a half-hour.
At 12:53 a.m., police received a 911 call from a woman complaining that she had been called racial slurs by white men gathered outside the home where the party took place.
The defense has said it believes the second dancer at the party made that call. The 911 call from the grocery store security guard was placed at 1:22 a.m.
In it, the caller says, "Um, the problem is ... it's a lady in somebody else's car and she will not get out of their car. She's like, she's like intoxicated, drunk or something. She's, I mean, she won't get out of the car, period."
A police spokeswoman did not immediately return a call seeking comment on the radio traffic.
The case has focused intense national scrutiny on Duke and the lacrosse players and has sparked protests on the elite private university's campus and elsewhere in Durham. The school last week canceled the highly ranked team's season and coach Mike Pressler resigned after the release of a vulgar and graphic e-mail sent by a team member shortly after the alleged assault.
Several of the defense attorneys say they expect the district attorney to ask a grand jury on Monday to issue charges in connection with allegations.
"Rest up on Sunday," Sutton said.
There has been no official word, however, on whether Nifong intends to present the allegations Monday. His next opportunity would come two weeks later.
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The hole just keeps geting deeper and deeper for the DA and this girl.
 
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Several of the defense attorneys say they expect the district attorney to ask a grand jury on Monday to issue charges in connection with allegations.
"Rest up on Sunday," Sutton said.
There has been no official word, however, on whether Nifong intends to present the allegations Monday. His next opportunity would come two weeks later.
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Does he have a reentry window that he can't miss or something?
 
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More of the same. IMO Doesn't sound like the cops have anything and are trying to trip someone up.

Updated: April 14, 2006, 7:06 PM ET
Police visit dorm to interview Duke players


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<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD style="PADDING-TOP: 10px" vAlign=top><!-- begin leftcol --><!-- template inline -->DURHAM, N.C. -- Police tried to interview Duke University lacrosse players at their dorm rooms about the team party where a woman reported being raped, but the athletes refused to speak with investigators, an attorney for several players said Friday.


The school confirmed that a pair of Durham detectives were on campus Thursday night for an hour and 15 minutes, but said they did not execute any search warrants.


Attorney Kerry Sutton said when police approached the players, they immediately contacted their lawyers, who advised them not to speak.




"I have no doubt that the Durham Police Department is fully aware that every one of those young men is represented, and I'm fairly shocked that they would run an end play around defense counsel in an attempt to talk to them," said Sutton, who represents one of the men who lived in the off-campus house where the accuser says she was assaulted. Duke released a statement Friday afternoon saying two Durham police detectives visited an on-campus residence hall to conduct interviews. No search warrants were executed and the Duke Police Department was notified ahead of time. The school's statement corrected comments made earlier Friday by Duke President Richard Brodhead, who told reporters police attempted to enter the rooms, but then said he had few details.

Police declined to release any information about the case Friday. The offices of District Attorney Mike Nifong were closed for the Good Friday holiday.

Samantha Ekstrand, the wife and law partner of Robert Ekstrand, who is representing dozens of the players, said police were trying to confirm who attended the party. According to court records, the players have told police that only team members were at the March 13 party.


The 27-year-old black woman, a student at North Carolina Central University, told police she was raped and beaten by three white lacrosse team members.

Police previously searched the house where the party was held and the Duke dorm room of lacrosse player Ryan McFadyen. The search of McFadyen's room came after police obtained a vulgar and graphic e-mail sent from his school account shortly after the alleged assault.
Friday morning, Brodhead met with N.C. Central Chancellor James Ammons, Durham Mayor Bill Bell and nearly two dozen other community leaders to discuss the tension in the community.
Ammons said the two schools would continue to work together to "strengthen the bonds that tie us."
"In times like these, let us remember that justice is served in the courtroom, not in the media or at the hands of individuals," he said.
The case has focused intense national scrutiny on Duke and the lacrosse players and has sparked protests on the elite private university's campus and elsewhere in Durham. The school last week canceled the highly ranked team's season and coach Mike Pressler resigned after the release of McFadyen's e-mail.
No charges have been filed, but Nifong has said he believes a crime was committed at the party, citing a medical exam that found the woman's injuries and behavior were consistent with being raped.

Attorneys for the players have said DNA tests failed to connect any players to the attack, and they have urged Nifong to drop his investigation. But several defense attorneys say they expect the district attorney to ask a grand jury Monday to indict one or more of the players.

In a police recording obtained Thursday by The Associated Press, one of the first officers to see the woman after she left the party described her as "just passed-out drunk." Police had been called to a grocery store parking lot where a security guard said the woman had gotten into someone else's car and would not get out.
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The Reverend Jesse is now involved and will take a trip to Duram next week. In an interview Jackson said that the privileged white kids had lawyer'ed up and it just was not a level playing field for this poor black girl.

Priceless....

 
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The problem here is denial of due process and failure to adhere to the fundamental premise of "innocent until proven guilty". Why is it that, once someone is accused of rape, indecent assault, child abuse, or other crimes that concern moral misconduct, that they are immediately considered guilty.

I have no more information about this case than anyone else. I am in no position to judge whether the prosecution has reasonable cause to proceed. But one does wonder if there really was a justifiable reason to stop the team playing unless there was undisputed evidence that they did something wrong. From what we are hearing so far, that doesn't sound like the case.

It is very strange that, despite the lack of DNA evidence, positive identification of anyone on the team by the complainant, and only hearsay/anecdotal evidence, the prosecution appears to be still going ahead with charges and a trial. Political campaign or not, pushing forward on flimsy evidence is no way to win a case or an election. Every one of these lacrosse players will carry some stigma for life because of this incident and some come from powerful families, which also isn't a good way to stoke one's political future.

So, one wonders what is going on? Was someone else at the party in addition to the team? Are some key facts being held back from the public discourse about this crime?

It is well documented that many fathers are falsely charged with child abuse these days in order to "make them pay" by depriving them of visitation rights. Many cases of rape are later determined to have been lodged falsely because the complainant was trying to divert attention from something she was doing.

Don't get me wrong. Rape is one of most repugnant of crimes and far too often the victim ends up being the one who is judged and convicted by society. What I am hoping is that people will just let this thing die down a bit so that justice can be done, whoever is to blame.
 
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Duke Lacrosse Story


Rev. Jesse Jackson's group offers college tuition to black woman accusing Duke lacrosse team of rape




I'm sorry but does anyone else see this as friggin hilarious!!!
Is he going to pay her way thru Duke? Jackson is such an ass...
If these kids are guilty, burn them... but give them the benefit of the doubt till then...

Hey Jesse.. why not make this a national offer to all dancers/hookers... BEFORE they are a publicity stunt for you...
 
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I saw Jesse on the Colbert Report last week, and he was amazingly normal and rational. He must have been on something. :biggrin:
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They pander to the audience. I saw Ferricon in front of a mixed audience and he was quite eloquent. Jesse, Louis Farrakhan, Shish-ka-bob Sharpton all can tone it up or down when they want. All they are looking for is publicity and cash.
 
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