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The indictments, unsealed Tuesday, did not indicate what possible evidence or arguments led the grand jury Monday to indict Reade Seligmann and Collin Finnerty, both 20. District Attorney Mike Nifong would not discuss the evidence.
"It had been my hope to charge all three of the assailants at the same time, but the evidence available to me at this moment does not permit that," Nifong said. "Investigation into the identity of the third assailant will continue in the hope that he can also be identified with certainty."
Seligmann posted a $400,000 bond shortly after his arrest, and Finnerty was in the process of doing so for the same amount, said Col. George Naylor of the Durham County jail.
Earlier, Seligmann, a 6-foot-1 sophomore from Essex Fells, N.J., and Finnerty, a 6-foot-3 sophomore from Garden City, N.Y., were led out of a police cruiser in handcuffs, one wearing a tie and jacket, the other in a button-down shirt and jeans.
Seligmann is "absolutely innocent," said his attorney, Kirk Osborn. "He's doing great. That's all I have to say."
Asked what led to the indictments, Osborn said: "Apparently it was a photographic identification. And we all know how reliable that is."
Finnerty's attorney, Bill Cotter, said, "We're surprised that anybody got indicted, quite frankly."
"The next jury will hear the entire story, which includes our evidence, and we're confident that these young men will be found to be innocent," he said.
Calls to the Finnerty and Seligmann homes Tuesday morning were not immediately returned. No one answered the door at the Finnerty house, which sits in a cul-de-sac of million-dollar homes on Long Island. A lacrosse net and equipment could be seen in the yard, which abuts a golf course.
The alleged victim, a 27-year-old black woman and mother of two children, told police she was attacked March 13 by three white men in a bathroom at a party held by the lacrosse team.
The racially charged allegations have led to near daily protest rallies. The school canceled the highly ranked team's season and accepted the resignation of coach Mike Pressler after the release of a vulgar and graphic e-mail that was sent by a team member shortly after the alleged assault.
Defense attorneys have urged Nifong to drop the case, saying DNA tests failed to connect any of the 46 team members tested to the alleged victim.
But Nifong has argued that he has enough evidence to proceed. He has said 75 percent to 80 percent of rape prosecutions lack DNA evidence. According to court records, a medical examination of the woman found injuries consistent with rape.
Defense attorneys have said time-stamped photos taken the night of the party show that the alleged victim was injured and impaired before she arrived.
Nifong has declined to discuss the case. He was appointed to the job last year after nearly three decades as a lawyer in the district attorney's office and is up for election.
Brian Loftus, of Syossett, N.Y., the father of two players on the team, told ABC's "Good Morning America" in an interview broadcast Tuesday that he approached one of his sons and asked him about the alleged attack.

"I asked him ten times. I said, 'Did anything happen?' Both my sons ... all they ever told me was 'Dad, nothing happened. Nobody did anything,'" Loftus said.
School officials said Monday that the lacrosse coach was warned last year that his players had too many violations of the campus judicial code and he needed to "get them in line."
Duke athletic director Joe Alleva said the university's executive vice president reviewed the lacrosse team's disciplinary record last year, then discussed his findings with Alleva.
"He said there were too many incidents, but there's not enough incidents to make a drastic change in the program at this point in time," Alleva told The Herald-Sun of Durham. Alleva told the coach "his team was under the microscope, and he had to do everything he could to get them in line and to not have any more behavior problems."
The review by Tallman Trask III, Duke's executive vice president, was spurred by reports of "boorish behavior" by the lacrosse team, Alleva said. Sue Wasiolek, Duke's dean of students and assistant vice president for student affairs, said the review showed the lacrosse team had a "disproportionate" number of violations of the campus judicial code. None was particularly serious, but administrators were concerned about the cumulative record and the fact that some players had several violations, she said.
 
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Alibis & Assaults - How Very Interesting

Considering how quick the press came out with the woman's colorful past - thought this article was quite interesting ..
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April 18, 2006 — One of the two Duke University lacrosse players arrested on charges of raping and kidnapping a 27-year-old woman at an off-campus party had been arrested in the fall for assaulting a man in Washington, D.C., and the other was not present when the alleged crime occurred, sources told ABC News.
Multiple sources told ABC News that Reade Seligmann, 20, was not present in the house at the time the alleged victim says the crime occurred. Sources say this is established through different witness accounts, as well as cell phone and credit-card records.
The other man arrested, Collin Finnerty, 20, was charged with simple assault, along with two others, in November for allegedly punching a man in the face and body because he told them to "stop calling him gay and other derogatory names," according to the police report and court records.
Finnerty's North Carolina arrest could have an impact on the outcome of the D.C. case at an April 25 hearing, a source in the U.S. attorney's office prosecuting the case told ABC News Radio.
"The judge was going to iron out the community service that the three defendants … were going to do in the District of Columbia," the source said. "And now, obviously, this is going to create some issues there."
The source said the hearing will still take place "but now we will be discussing other issues."
Steven McCool, Finnerty's attorney in the D.C. case, told ABC News Finnerty had been charged with "simple assault," a misdemeanor. McCool reached an agreement with the U.S. attorney to have Finnerty placed in a "diversion program," he said, and the charge would be expunged if Finnerty completed 25 hours of community service and did not get arrested again.
McCool said the U.S. attorney would now have to decide whether or not to go to trial in this case. Legal sources unrelated to the case cautioned, however, that the outcome of the D.C. case will probably depend on what happens with the charges in North Carolina.
McCool said he has not received official notice of the April 25 hearing, but he was aware it could happen.

Indictments against Finnerty and Seligmann were unsealed Tuesday. Durham District Attorney Mike Nifong would not discuss details, but did reveal he was pursuing charges against a third man.
"It had been my hope to charge all three of the assailants at the same time, but the evidence available to me at this moment does not permit that," Nifong said. "Investigation into the identity of the third assailant will continue in the hope that he can also be identified with certainty."
ABC News has obtained the district attorney's motion from April 12 to seal indictments that claims, for both Finnerty and Seligmann, that "the severity of the punishment he faces create a substantial risk that he would attempt to flee the jurisdiction ... if he learned that an indictment had been returned against him.''
ABC News also has obtained Durham County Superior Court receipts showing both men were freed after posting $400,000 cash bonds.
Seligmann posted bond shortly after his arrest, and his attorney waived his court appearance. Finnerty also posted bond and made a brief appearance in Superior Court shortly before 11 a.m. wearing a jacket and tie. The next court appearance for both players was set for May 15.
Attorney: 'Absolutely Innocent'

Both Seligmann, a 6-foot-1 sophomore from Essex Fells, N.J., and Finnerty, a 6-foot-3 sophomore from Garden City, N.Y., were in handcuffs when they stepped out of a police cruiser before dawn.
Seligmann is "absolutely innocent," said his attorney, Kirk Osborn. "He's doing great. That's all I have to say."
Asked what led to the indictments, Osborn said: "Apparently it was a photographic identification. And we all know how reliable that is."
A message left at the Seligmann home by The Associated Press was not returned Tuesday nor was a message left on the answering machine at the Finnerty home in Garden City, N.Y. No one answered the door at the house, which sits in a cul-de-sac of million-dollar homes. A lacrosse net and equipment could be seen on the yard, which abuts a golf course.
<!-- page --> "The next jury will hear the entire story, which includes our evidence, and we're confident that these young men will be found to be innocent," said Finnerty's attorney, Bill Cotter. "We're surprised that anybody got indicted, quite frankly."
Criminal defense attorney Michael Bachner told ABC News Now that attorneys on the case are sure to question the photo identification of the suspects, and it will be important to determine if the accuser chose Finnerty and Seligmann from a random line-up or a pool of all Duke lacrosse players. "[There are] serious constitutional issues here," Bachner said.
The alleged victim, who is black, is the mother of two children and was hired to dance at the party. She told police she was attacked March 13 by three white men in a bathroom at the party held by the lacrosse team. The racially charged allegations have led to near daily protest rallies.
The school canceled the highly ranked team's season and accepted the resignation of coach Mike Pressler after the release of a vulgar and graphic e-mail that was sent by an uncharged team member shortly after the alleged assault.
Defense attorneys have urged Nifong to drop the case, saying DNA tests failed to connect any of the 46 team members tested to the alleged victim.
Nifong has said 75 percent to 80 percent of rape prosecutions lack DNA evidence. According to court records, a medical examination of the woman found injuries consistent with rape.
Defense attorneys have said time-stamped photos taken the night of the party show that the alleged victim was injured and impaired before she arrived.
The charges come two weeks before Nifong, appointed to the job last year after nearly three decades as a lawyer in the district attorney's office, is up for election. On Monday, he repeatedly declined to comment on the case.
Disciplinary Findings

Seligmann is one of five lacrosse players at Duke from the Delbarton School, an all-boys Catholic prep school in Morristown, N.J. Delbarton won three state lacrosse titles while Seligmann was at the school, but he saw limited time on the field after arriving at Duke. He didn't start any games this season, playing in six and scoring one goal.
"Knowing Reade Seligmann as well as we do here at Delbarton, I believe him innocent of the charges included in the indictment issued yesterday in North Carolina," the Rev. Luke L. Travers, headmaster at Delbarton, said in a statement.
<!-- page --> Finnerty, who attended Chaminade High School, also did not start any games this season. He played in five, scoring two goals with an assist. His brother is a senior at Duke. Finnerty and Seligmann lived in the same residence hall at Duke, but they are not roommates.
Duke, which played in the national title game last season and was considered a favorite for the NCAA title this year, was 6-2 before the school canceled the team's season.
School officials said Monday that the lacrosse coach was warned last year that his players had too many violations of the campus judicial code and he needed to "get them in line."
Duke athletic director Joe Alleva said the university's executive vice president reviewed the lacrosse team's disciplinary record last year, then discussed his findings with Alleva.
"He said there were too many incidents, but there's not enough incidents to make a drastic change in the program at this point in time," Alleva told The Herald-Sun of Durham. Alleva told the coach "his team was under the microscope, and he had to do everything he could to get them in line and to not have any more behavior problems."
The review by Tallman Trask III, Duke's executive vice president, was spurred by reports of "boorish behavior" by the lacrosse team, Alleva said.
Sue Wasiolek, Duke's dean of students and assistant vice president for student affairs, said the review showed the lacrosse team had a "disproportionate" number of violations of the campus judicial code. None was particularly serious, but administrators were concerned about the cumulative record and the fact that some players had several violations, she said.
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Dispatch

4/19/06

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Two Duke players arrested, booked on rape charges

Wednesday, April 19, 2006

Tim Whitmire
ASSOCIATED PRESS

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DURHAM, N.C. — Two Duke lacrosse players were arrested and charged with rape yesterday in a scandal that has rocked one of America’s elite campuses and raised explosive questions of race, class and the privileged status of college athletes.
The two players, both graduates of Northern prep schools, were promptly booked and released on bail. District Attorney Mike Nifong said a third player could also be arrested but has yet to be firmly identified.
"It is important that we not only bring the assailants to justice but also that we lift the cloud of suspicion from those team members who were not involved in the assault," Nifong said.
Lawyers for the two men bitterly assailed the district attorney for bringing the charges. Other attorneys for Duke’s lacrosse players said the two were not even present at the time the rape is alleged to have occurred.
Reade Seligmann, 20, of Essex Fells, N.J., and Collin Finnerty, 19, of Garden City, N.Y., are accused of attacking a stripper at a team party at an off-campus house on the night of March 13. They were charged with first-degree rape, sexual offense and kidnapping and were released on $400,000 bail each.
The district attorney would not say what evidence led to the charges. But Seligmann’s attorney, Kirk Osborn, said,"Apparently, it was a photographic identification. And we all know how reliable that is."
Seligmann is "absolutely innocent," Osborn said. Finnerty’s attorney, Bill Cotter, said, "The next jury will hear the entire story, which includes our evidence, and we’re confident that these young men will be found to be innocent."
The case has raised racial tensions and heightened long-standing antagonism between Duke students and middle class, racially mixed Durham. The accuser is black, and all but one of the 47 lacrosse team members are white.
Well before the scandal, the nationally ranked team had a reputation for a swaggering sense of entitlement and frat-boy behavior that included public intoxication and public urination.
The case has led to the resignation of the coach and the cancellation of the rest of the season.
Seligmann, a 6-foot-1 sophomore, and Finnerty, a 6-3 sophomore, were in handcuffs when they stepped out of a police cruiser at the Durham County Jail early yesterday. Their early morning surrenders were part of a deal with Nifong in which they were bailed out of jail within hours. Attorneys for the players have demanded Nifong drop the investigation, arguing that DNA tests failed to connect any of the team members to the alleged rape. They have also charged that the accuser was intoxicated and injured when she showed up for the party.
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Multiple sources told ABC News that Reade Seligmann, 20, was not present in the house at the time the alleged victim says the crime occurred. Sources say this is established through different witness accounts, as well as cell phone and credit-card records.
The other man arrested, Collin Finnerty, 20, was charged with simple assault, along with two others, in November for allegedly punching a man in the face and body because he told them to "stop calling him gay and other derogatory names," according to the police report and court records.
Finnerty's North Carolina arrest could have an impact on the outcome of the D.C. case at an April 25 hearing, a source in the U.S. attorney's office prosecuting the case told ABC News Radio.
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If I am reading this right, this kid might not have even been there? (BTW That was the worst written article I think I have even read. I could not figure out WTF they were trying to say.)
 
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http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=2413794
Demand for Duke lacrosse gear soars

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<!-- begin text11 div --><!-- begin leftcol --> <!-- template inline -->In the wake of publicity generated by the sexual assault scandal surrounding the Duke men's lacrosse team, sales of merchandise bearing the "Duke lacrosse" name and logo have skyrocketed.
"Historically, lacrosse has been one of our three or four best-selling sports," said Tom Craig, general manager of retail stores at the Durham, N.C., school. "But over the last month, sales have increased to three or four times our normal rate." Despite the cancellation of the team's season April 5 -- or perhaps because of it -- the campus stores have experienced a run on merchandise related to Duke lacrosse, and therefore have continued to carry it. Developments in the case include the Tuesday arrest of two of the players. "We just had to keep up with the demand," Craig said. "There are a couple outstanding orders that we are waiting on; but as of now, we are in great shape in terms of inventory online and at the stores." Among the available items are hats, T-shirts and replica jerseys, which arrived only recently but were ordered in January, according to Craig. Craig said the items are generic in that they aren't identified as men's or women's lacrosse, so there was never a discussion with university officials about the possibility of stopping sales after news of the scandal broke. Duke's women's lacrosse team is ranked No. 1 in the country. "I don't think we're taking advantage of the situation," Craig said. Repeated calls to the school's news and communications office were not returned. But crisis management executive Mike Paul said he believes there's an equal chance that the school will continue to allow the sale of lacrosse merchandise as that it will cut off sales. Craig said bookstores at Duke are institutionally owned and operated. "The dilemma here hinges on the fact that there is still a very good women's team playing," said Paul, president of MGP & Associates PR. Although the merchandise remains available at campus stores, one national retailer, Dick's Sporting Goods, has pulled all Duke lacrosse merchandise from the shelves in its five stores in the Raleigh-Durham area. "The reasons we stopped selling the gear are very straightforward," said Jeff Hennion, senior vice president and chief marketing officer of the company, which has more than 200 stores nationwide. "It is highly controversial in the Raleigh-Durham area. Having that type of product out in front of our customers seemed to be a lightning rod. And secondly, we had customers who saw it out in the store and complained about it." Hennion said that area stores in the Dick's chain had stocked only a small amount of Duke lacrosse gear and that sales of Duke lacrosse merchandise made up less than 1 percent of the revenue grossed in those stores. "This is not about us judging who is right and who is wrong. It's just such a tiny part of our business that we just wanted to avoid the issue," Hennion said. "We spend millions of dollars every year towards local programs in our areas to prove that we want to be part of the community instead of just being a large retailer. This decision reflects that." Duke lacrosse shirts are still available for $11.95 on the athletic department's Web site, www.goduke.com, which is as it should be, according to Kathleen Hessert, president of Sports Media Challenge, a Charlotte, N.C.-based sports strategic communications and reputation management firm. "There's nothing wrong with continuing to sell Duke lacrosse merchandise," Hessert said. "If they were putting them on sale or promoting them, that would be entirely different, but I think what they are doing now is just satisfying the demand of their customers." That demand from outside Durham has pushed the price considerably above face value. When the story first hit the news more than a month ago, the average price of a Duke lacrosse item on the online auction site eBay was $7.74. The average price now is $17.04. The pace of transactions has increased, too. In early March, only a handful of Duke lacrosse items changed hands in a week. This past week, 79 items sold. On Monday, T-shirts sold for more than $40 each, with as many as 16 bids on single items. Janelle Smith of Coats, N.C., purchased a shirt on eBay on Monday night for $30 because she said she was sure that if she made the 65-mile trip to the Duke campus, everything would be sold out. "My boyfriend will probably wear it at the gym," Smith said. "Not out anywhere, as to not cause too much controversy." Smith said she understood that the shirt wouldn't come cheap, given the story's prominence in the news. "I knew it would be high in price," she said. David Miklofsky, a 22-year-old from Tucson, Ariz., purchased a Duke lacrosse T-shirt on eBay for $16.49. "What if Duke doesn't have a men's lacrosse team anymore?" Miklofsky asked. "Either the value of the shirt will be increased based on not having a program or, the more likely outcome is that there won't be a demand for an odd item such as this." Officials with Brine, which makes Duke lacrosse hats and T-shirts, did not return multiple calls seeking comment about whether the company is putting more product into the marketplace to meet increased demand. Although many outlets selling Duke lacrosse merchandise report brisk sales, not everyone is seeing more dollar signs because of the scandal. "Duke is normally one of the best sellers for us; but in the last month, it's been in the middle of the road," said Mike DeSimone, owner of Lacrosse Unlimited. "Most of our customers are parents buying for kids ages 9 to 15 years old, and I think some of them are waiting for the outcome of this case before they come in and purchase something." Eighteen of the 47 players on Duke's roster are from New York and Connecticut, where Lacrosse Unlimited's 12 stores are located. Said DeSimone: "It's upsetting that lacrosse finally hits the news and it's getting notoriety in a negative fashion like this." Darren Rovell, who covers sports business for ESPN.com, can be reached at [email protected].
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http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=2413618
Police search dorm rooms of two Duke lax players

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<!-- begin text11 div --><!-- begin leftcol --> <!-- template inline -->DURHAM, N.C. -- Police searched the dorm rooms of two Duke University lacrosse players after the two were arrested on charges of raping and kidnapping an exotic dancer during an off-campus team party.
District Attorney Mike Nifong said Tuesday he also hoped to link a third man to the alleged attack soon, but he said that person had not been "identified with certainty.''
"It is important that we not only bring the assailants to justice, but also that we lift the cloud of suspicion from those team members who were not involved in the assault,'' Nifong said in a statement.
The accuser, a 27-year-old student at a nearby college, told police she was attacked by three white men at a house where she and another woman were hired to dance at a party of lacrosse team members the night of March 13.
Two team members -- Reade Seligmann, a sophomore from Essex Fells, N.J., and Collin Finnerty, a sophomore from Garden City, N.Y. -- were arrested early Tuesday. Each posted $400,000 bond and was released within hours.
Their lawyers assailed the district attorney for bringing the charges after DNA tests had failed to connect any of the team members to the alleged rape.
Seligmann is "absolutely innocent,'' said attorney Kirk Osborn. Finnerty's attorney, Bill Cotter, said, "We're confident that these young men will be found to be innocent.''
Nifong has declined to say what led to the charges or discuss evidence in the case. The dorm rooms were searched Tuesday night for about two hours, according to resident assistant Taggart White. The warrants had not been returned to the court clerk's or magistrate's office by midday Wednesday.
"I can imagine they never quit investigating, but I think it's unusual to be executing search warrants after they've indicted,'' Cotter said Wednesday.
The case has raised racial tensions and heightened the long-standing town-vs.-gown antagonism between Duke students and middle-class, racially mixed Durham. The accuser is black, and all but one of the 47 lacrosse team members are white.
Duke would not comment specifically on any disciplinary action taken against Seligmann and Finnerty, but said it is university practice to suspend students charged with a felony.
"Many lives have been touched by this case,'' Duke President Richard Brodhead said in a statement. "It has brought pain and suffering to all involved, and it deeply challenges our ability to balance judgment with compassion.''
Since the scandal broke, the university has canceled the team's season, its coach resigned and Duke officials said they were investigating the behavior of the nationally ranked team, some of whose members have been found guilty of public intoxication and public urination.
Neither Seligmann and Finnerty was among the team members arrested in recent years for such offenses as underage drinking and public urination.
Finnerty, however, was charged in Washington, D.C., with assault after a man told police in November that Finnerty and two friends punched him and called him "gay and other derogatory names.'' Finnerty agreed to community service.
Both Seligmann and Finnerty are products of wealthy New York City suburbs and all-male Roman Catholic prep schools. Finnerty attended Long Island's Chaminade High School, where 99 percent of the students go on to college. Seligmann went to the exclusive Delbarton School, a lacrosse powerhouse in Morristown, N.J.
"It is our hope and our conviction that the full truth of all that happened that night will vindicate Reade of these charges,'' Delbarton's headmaster, the Rev. Luke L. Travers, said in a statement
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That second piece is particularly interesting from a legal point of view.

Though they may have the right to go into those dorm rooms, given the indicted status of the room's residents, it certainly smells like a fishing expedition.

The first piece kind of points out that either the campus community is rallying round its stricken, or sef-imploding lacrosse team (depending one's point of view). Or, it demonstrates a level of disconnection by the buyers to the political atmosphere in and around the Duke campus.
 
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Dick's Sporting Goods, has pulled all Duke lacrosse merchandise from the shelves in its five stores in the Raleigh-Durham area. "The reasons we stopped selling the gear are very straightforward," said Jeff Hennion, senior vice president and chief marketing officer of the company, which has more than 200 stores nationwide. "It is highly controversial in the Raleigh-Durham area. Having that type of product out in front of our customers seemed to be a lightning rod. And secondly, we had customers who saw it out in the store and complained about it."
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Guess what. I am offended that Dick's is named after a penis. I think they should close because it offends me. :biggrin:
 
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How do we know that the guys who raped her were even on the team? I mean I'm sure its possible that a few other guys that happened to be at the party could have done it. I don't put too much stock in the photo-IDing, considering the victim was supposedly supposed to be pretty wasted during that part of the night.
 
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ScarletBlood31 said:
How do we know that the guys who raped her were even on the team? I mean I'm sure its possible that a few other guys that happened to be at the party could have done it. I don't put too much stock in the photo-IDing, considering the victim was supposedly supposed to be pretty wasted during that part of the night.
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a related family member of the accuser hit the morning tv talk shows and said she wouldnt have been intoxicated, implying that she was drugged at the party.
 
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