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Report: Alleged victim IDs two Duke lacrosse players

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<!-- begin text11 div --><!-- begin leftcol --> <!-- template inline -->DURHAM, N.C. -- Attorneys for members of Duke University's lacrosse team gathered at the courthouse Monday, waiting to see whether a grand jury would indict any of the players on charges of sexually assaulting an exotic dancer at a party.
The lawyers said they expected the panel to hear on Monday from District Attorney Mike Nifong, who for more than a month has been investigating the allegations made by a 27-year-old student from nearby North Carolina Central University.
The woman, who is black, told police she was attacked March 13 by three white men in a bathroom at a party held by the lacrosse team.
Prosecutors have informed defense attorneys that the alleged victim has identified two players with 100 percent certainty and is 90 percent certain on a third player, ABC News reports.
Court officials refused to answer any questions about the grand jury, including whether it was even meeting. If no indictments were returned in the case Monday, the next session of the grand jury would be in two weeks.
Defense attorneys conferred with members of the district attorney's staff in the courthouse hallways, but no one would say what they were discussing.
"It would be nice to figure out a way to give me back my anonymity," Nifong told reporters who crowded around him as he left a restroom.
The racially charged allegations have led to near daily protest rallies. The school canceled the highly ranked team's season and accepted the resignation of coach Mike Pressler after the release of a vulgar and graphic e-mail that was sent by a team member shortly after the alleged assault.
Defense attorneys have urged Nifong to drop the case, saying DNA tests failed to connect any of the 46 team members tested to the alleged victim.
Nifong has said 75 percent to 80 percent of rape prosecutions lack DNA evidence. According to court records, a medical examination of the woman found injuries consistent with rape.
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I could be wrong, but it sounds like they have something other than the testimony of the dancer. There has to be some evidence if they are going to prosecute this case...I guess.
What would the woman stand to gain from this if they are lying? Did they not get a big enough tip? I do not get it.
 
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Folanator said:
I could be wrong, but it sounds like they have something other than the testimony of the dancer. There has to be some evidence if they are going to prosecute this case...I guess.
What would the woman stand to gain from this if they are lying? Did they not get a big enough tip? I do not get it.
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I don't either, and that's what doesn't make sense.
 
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Bucklion said:
Per the E-Spin: 2 players indicted, I think that she picked out of a lineup:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=2411358
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"Yes sir that was the two men. I remember them distinctly because the first one I picked a dollar bill of of his nose and blew smoke rings at the second young man. The third I am only 90% sure of because I bounced a ping ping ball off his head so it partially blocked my view."
 
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Lantern

4/18

Duke case raises Buckeye awareness

Andrew Whalen

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Mike D'Andrea, senior OSU linebacker said the phrase also appears on posters around the locker room.

"It's one of the first things he talks about when we have team meetings," D'Andrea said. "Take care of business off the field � you know � don't be dumb, don't do stupid things, stay out of trouble."

Stressing the importance of staying clear from questionable situations to student athletes is an issue that holds special relevance now.

On March 13, allegations that several Duke lacrosse players raped, assaulted and sodomized a 27-year-old exotic dancer and North Carolina Central University student at an off-campus party resulted in protests both on and off the Duke campus. It also caused the cancellation of the Duke lacrosse season that would have included a game against the Buckeyes on April 1, the suspension of one player from school, the resignation of coach Mike Pressler and the magnification of Duke as the epicenter of a national controversy.

Despite the assertions of defense attorneys that DNA test results released on April 11 failed to connect any of the 46 Duke lacrosse players tested to the sexual assault, District Attorney Mike Nifong maintains there is enough evidence to file charges.

Gene Smith, OSU director of athletics, said the school takes several steps to avoid similar incidents, including orientation programs for student athletes and speakers that each individual sport brings in to talk to players about substance abuse, sexual assault, sexual harassment and other situations that student athletes need to avoid.

D'Andrea said Tressel's advice often comes to mind when he is presented with a situation that could prove problematic.

"If you see some trouble going on, like say a house party or something, you just wanna stay away from it 'cause you don't wanna get in trouble with the team," D'Andrea said.
Gonzalez said that although Tressel's advice has been useful, many situations should be avoided by using common sense.

"If you know certain things are gonna be at a place, certain people, whatever, then just don't go," Gonzalez said. "And your other option is, if you go, go with people that you can trust."

Smith said an incident like Duke's could happen anywhere, but he would be surprised if it happened at OSU because of the types of players they recruit and the effort coaches put into educating them.

"Now does that mean that some kid's not going to go out there and get a DUI or do something of that nature?" Smith asked. "Obviously, you've got 900 student athletes ages 17 to 22."

OSU has had its share of incidents in which student athletes were cited for driving under the influence. Most recently, freshman offensive tackle Alex Boone was cited on April 3.

Richard Lapchick, director of the Institute for Diversity and Ethics in Sport at the University of Central Florida, said in an e-mail that he thinks factors like being financially privileged and famous are more likely to lead to reduced charges or acquittals than to actual crimes being committed.

"Athletes commit approximately 100 crimes of sexual assault per year," Lapchick said. "More than 4.5 million women are battered and approximately 800,000 are raped each (year). Athletes are only a small part of a huge problem."

Jason Bloom, team captain and senior midfielder for the OSU lacrosse team said he does not think the Duke incident will change how the Buckeye lacrosse team acts.

"We're a very responsible team off the field," Bloom said. "We just need to continue to look out for each other and make sure we're staying out of situations where problems can arise like that."

Smith said that although the Duke incident is tragic, it can also be used as an example for teaching other student athletes.

"We'll just continue to educate," Smith said. "That's our main thing."
 
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2 Duke Lacrosse Players Are Arrested

By TIM WHITMIRE, Associated Press Writer 51 minutes ago

DURHAM, N.C. - Two 20-year-old Duke University lacrosse players were arrested early Tuesday on charges of raping and kidnapping a stripper hired to dance at an off-campus party.

Reade Seligmann posted a $400,000 bond and Collin Finnerty was in the process of doing so for the same amount, said Col. George Naylor of the Durham County jail. By posting bond, the players avoided making an initial court appearance later in the day.

Earlier, Seligmann, a 6-foot-1 sophomore from Essex Fells, N.J., and Finnerty, a 6-foot-3 sophomore from Garden City, N.Y., were led out of separate police cruisers in handcuffs. One was wearing a suit jacket, the other was in dress shirt and jeans.

Seligmann is "absolutely innocent," said his attorney, Kirk Osborn. "He's doing great. That's all I have to say."

The alleged victim, a 27-year-old black woman and mother of two children, told police she was attacked March 13 by three white men in a bathroom at a party held by the lacrosse team.

The racially charged allegations have led to near daily protest rallies.

The school canceled the highly ranked team's season and accepted the resignation of coach Mike Pressler after the release of a vulgar and graphic e-mail that was sent by a team member shortly after the alleged assault.

Defense attorneys have urged District Attorney Mike Nifong to drop the case, saying DNA tests failed to connect any of the 46 team members tested to the alleged victim.

Nifong has said 75 percent to 80 percent of rape prosecutions lack DNA evidence. According to court records, a medical examination of the woman found injuries consistent with rape.

Defense attorneys have said time-stamped photos taken the night of the party show that the alleged victim was injured and impaired before she arrived.

The charges come two weeks before Nifong, appointed to the job last year after nearly three decades as a lawyer in the district attorney's office, is up for election. On Monday, he repeatedly declined to comment on the case.

Brian Loftus, of Syossett, N.Y., the father of two players on the team, told ABC's "Good Morning America" in an interview broadcast Tuesday that he approached one of his sons and asked him about the alleged attack.

"I asked him ten times. I said, 'Did anything happen?' Both my sons ... all they ever told me was 'Dad, nothing happened. Nobody did anything,'" Loftus said.

Also Monday, school officials said the lacrosse coach was warned last year that his players had too many violations of the campus judicial code and he needed to "get them in line."

Duke athletic director Joe Alleva said the university's executive vice president reviewed the lacrosse team's disciplinary record last year, then discussed his findings with Alleva.

"He said there were too many incidents, but there's not enough incidents to make a drastic change in the program at this point in time," Alleva told The Herald-Sun of Durham.

Alleva then met with Pressler, telling the coach that "his team was under the microscope, and he had to do everything he could to get them in line and to not have any more behavior problems," he said.

The review by Tallman Trask III, Duke's executive vice president, was spurred by reports of "boorish behavior" by the lacrosse team, Alleva said.

Sue Wasiolek, Duke's dean of students and assistant vice president for student affairs, said the review showed the lacrosse team had a "disproportionate" number of violations of the campus judicial code. None was particularly serious, but administrators were concerned about the cumulative record and the fact that some players had several violations, she said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060418/ap_on_sp_co_ne/duke_lacrosse_29
 
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Sounds like the Duke Lacrosse team was already on double secret probation before this latest incident.

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Golferdow01 said:
Jesse Jackson is about the most irrational loon on the planet right now.
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Saw Stephen A. Smith this morning telling Jesse Jackson to shut up and stay out of a story that he has no business getting involved in.

Said that Jesse could do more important work behind the scenes without having to get his mug on TV all of the time.

I couldn't believe what I was watching.

I'll still never forget the UDF fiasco in C-Bus that he got involved in a few years back. :slappy:

Jesse Jackson is setting black people back instead of advancing them forward.
 
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Lantern

4/18

Duke case raises Buckeye awareness

Andrew Whalen

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Mike D'Andrea, senior OSU linebacker said the phrase also appears on posters around the locker room.

"It's one of the first things he talks about when we have team meetings," D'Andrea said. "Take care of business off the field � you know � don't be dumb, don't do stupid things, stay out of trouble."

Stressing the importance of staying clear from questionable situations to student athletes is an issue that holds special relevance now.

On March 13, allegations that several Duke lacrosse players raped, assaulted and sodomized a 27-year-old exotic dancer and North Carolina Central University student at an off-campus party resulted in protests both on and off the Duke campus. It also caused the cancellation of the Duke lacrosse season that would have included a game against the Buckeyes on April 1, the suspension of one player from school, the resignation of coach Mike Pressler and the magnification of Duke as the epicenter of a national controversy.

Despite the assertions of defense attorneys that DNA test results released on April 11 failed to connect any of the 46 Duke lacrosse players tested to the sexual assault, District Attorney Mike Nifong maintains there is enough evidence to file charges.

Gene Smith, OSU director of athletics, said the school takes several steps to avoid similar incidents, including orientation programs for student athletes and speakers that each individual sport brings in to talk to players about substance abuse, sexual assault, sexual harassment and other situations that student athletes need to avoid.

D'Andrea said Tressel's advice often comes to mind when he is presented with a situation that could prove problematic.

"If you see some trouble going on, like say a house party or something, you just wanna stay away from it 'cause you don't wanna get in trouble with the team," D'Andrea said.
Gonzalez said that although Tressel's advice has been useful, many situations should be avoided by using common sense.

"If you know certain things are gonna be at a place, certain people, whatever, then just don't go," Gonzalez said. "And your other option is, if you go, go with people that you can trust."

Smith said an incident like Duke's could happen anywhere, but he would be surprised if it happened at OSU because of the types of players they recruit and the effort coaches put into educating them.

"Now does that mean that some kid's not going to go out there and get a DUI or do something of that nature?" Smith asked. "Obviously, you've got 900 student athletes ages 17 to 22."

OSU has had its share of incidents in which student athletes were cited for driving under the influence. Most recently, freshman offensive tackle Alex Boone was cited on April 3.

Richard Lapchick, director of the Institute for Diversity and Ethics in Sport at the University of Central Florida, said in an e-mail that he thinks factors like being financially privileged and famous are more likely to lead to reduced charges or acquittals than to actual crimes being committed.

"Athletes commit approximately 100 crimes of sexual assault per year," Lapchick said. "More than 4.5 million women are battered and approximately 800,000 are raped each (year). Athletes are only a small part of a huge problem."

Jason Bloom, team captain and senior midfielder for the OSU lacrosse team said he does not think the Duke incident will change how the Buckeye lacrosse team acts.

"We're a very responsible team off the field," Bloom said. "We just need to continue to look out for each other and make sure we're staying out of situations where problems can arise like that."

Smith said that although the Duke incident is tragic, it can also be used as an example for teaching other student athletes.

"We'll just continue to educate," Smith said. "That's our main thing."
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Ironic that the story chooses to quote D'Andrea of all the Buckeyes on this subject.....
 
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