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Cleveland Cavs (2016 NBA Champions)

Eh, blame Lebron/Durant all we want (they deserve some of it), but in the end it's the leagues fault for creating such salary cap loopholes to allow this crap to happen. The NBA sold out for "super teams" and it's created one hell of a stale league. The NBA is pretty much the only league where you can damn near 100% accurately pinpoint how the standings are going to look at the end of the season before the season even starts each year.
 
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Eh, blame Lebron/Durant all we want (they deserve some of it), but in the end it's the leagues fault for creating such salary cap loopholes to allow this crap to happen. The NBA sold out for "super teams" and it's created one hell of a stale league. The NBA is pretty much the only league where you can damn near 100% accurately pinpoint how the standings are going to look at the end of the season before the season even starts each year.
Ironically enough, it's actually the players association that allowed Durant to sign with the Warriors. They were presented with a cap smoothing scenario by the league (gradually allowing the cap to increase rather than having it explode back in the summer of '16). The NBAPA kiboshed the proposal. GS got lucky because they were paying Curry far below market value due to an extension he signed back in 2012 and took effect in the summer of '13 (four years, $44 million).
 
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What the Warriors did was completely within the rules. They would be stupid not to replace their worst starter (Barnes) with the second-best player in basketball. That doesn't mean it wasn't cowardly or against the spirit of competition, though. I don't begrudge Durant for leaving OKC. I can't stand the way Westbrook plays basketball, and I couldn't imagine being his teammate. OKC also has to be among the worst cities to live in as a rich, recognizable athlete.

But he took six meetings. He very well could've gone to the Clippers, Spurs, Heat, or Celtics. Boston, in particular, offered him a chance to remain "the guy" on a team with a bright future. Instead, he took the path of the least possible resistance. It's never been so easy for any team to win a title in the modern pro sports landscape. And unless LeBron goes to Houston and has two superstars and the best role players in the league flanking him, it won't be hard for Golden State.

Say what you want about LeBron, but there were no guarantees that Miami would work out. There's even an argument to be had that it didn't. The Heat were the lesser team in three of the four Finals appearances (they should've beaten Dallas), and they lost two of them. Even if LeBron does join the Rockets, though, they still won't be better than Golden State on paper. They'll just be better in the playoffs, because that's where LeBron feasts.
 
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What the Warriors did was completely within the rules. They would be stupid not to replace their worst starter (Barnes) with the second-best player in basketball. That doesn't mean it wasn't cowardly or against the spirit of competition, though. I don't begrudge Durant for leaving OKC. I can't stand the way Westbrook plays basketball, and I couldn't imagine being his teammate. OKC also has to be among the worst cities to live in as a rich, recognizable athlete.

But he took six meetings. He very well could've gone to the Clippers, Spurs, Heat, or Celtics. Boston, in particular, offered him a chance to remain "the guy" on a team with a bright future. Instead, he took the path of the least possible resistance. It's never been so easy for any team to win a title in the modern pro sports landscape. And unless LeBron goes to Houston and has two superstars and the best role players in the league flanking him, it won't be hard for Golden State.

Say what you want about LeBron, but there were no guarantees that Miami would work out. There's even an argument to be had that it didn't. The Heat were the lesser team in three of the four Finals appearances (they should've beaten Dallas), and they lost two of them. Even if LeBron does join the Rockets, though, they still won't be better than Golden State on paper. They'll just be better in the playoffs, because that's where LeBron feasts.

Exactly. I find Durant particularly unlikable, not because he took the easiest path ever imaginable to a championship. But because he actually made the "I'm not taking the easy road this is the hardest road" comment. Either trolling or blissfull ignorance, either way Durant and this Warriors team is the most unlikable annoying team i've ever experienced watching. I could stomach the Patriots going undefeated 10 times over before seeing this team win another title.
 
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Semantic it away all you want.....the statement that Durant broke the league is wrong. Lebron started the superteam movement, the Warriors are the answer to that. So no, Durant didn't break the league.

The same can be said about LeBron starting the super team trend (Boston says hello), but I haven’t argued any of that. All I said was Golden State’s situation when Durant joined them isn’t even in the same ballpark as the Heat when LeBron joined. Which hasn’t been disputed.

And as much as I hate Draymond Green, he’s twice as effective as Chris Bosh. Neither of which are in the Top 5 overall.
 
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The same can be said about LeBron started the super team trend (Boston says hello), but I haven’t argued any of that. All I said was Golden State’s situation when Durant joined them isn’t even in the same ballpark as the Heat when LeBron joined. Which hasn’t been disputed.

And as much as I hate Draymond Green, he’s twice as effective as Chris Bosh. Neither of which are in the Top 5 overall.
Right.....you joined the conversation in the middle and tried to make it matter that CREATING a team of superstars is different than one superstar joining a historically great team. Wonderful.....but that wasn't the conversation.

And downplay Bosh all you want.....when they formed that team he was better than the turd he ended up as. So fine....3 top 10 players. That's a huge difference.
 
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Right.....you joined the conversation in the middle and tried to make it matter that CREATING a team of superstars is different than one superstar joining a historically great team. Wonderful.....but that wasn't the conversation.

And downplay Bosh all you want.....when they formed that team he was better than the turd he ended up as. So fine....3 top 10 players. That's a huge difference.

Still not even close in comparison. :lol:
 
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The NBA needs to bring back Richie Powers and Mendy Rudolph.

I thought there was a book written a few years ago about how NBA referees were fixing games. After last night, it makes you wonder when II will be coming out.
 
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Bosh may have been a top 20 player in 2011. A general list of who was better than him or close to it at the time:

  1. LeBron
  2. Kobe
  3. Chris Paul
  4. Dwyane Wade
  5. Durant
  6. Derrick Rose
  7. Dirk Nowitzki
  8. Blake Griffin
  9. Dwight Howard
  10. Carmelo
  11. Tim Duncan
  12. LaMarcus Aldridge
  13. Amare Stoudemire
  14. Kevin Love
  15. Deron Williams
  16. Westbrook
  17. Paul Pierce
  18. Pau Gasol
  19. Marc Gasol
  20. Danny Granger
  21. Zach Randolph
  22. Rajon Rondo
  23. Andre Iguodala
  24. Joakim Noah
  25. Al Horford
 
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Lane violations and moving screens are two of the most overlooked calls in the NBA. It happens so frequently too, since they know they won’t get called for it. For shame.

Yea, Sad fact but the NBA is barely even actual basketball anymore considering their leniency (or outright ignoring) on some rules.
 
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Semantic it away all you want.....the statement that Durant broke the league is wrong. Lebron started the superteam movement, the Warriors are the answer to that. So no, Durant didn't break the league.

The 2016 and 2017 Warriors aren't the answer to Lebron's superteam movement. They were more than that on their own without Durant. The current roster is the answer to Durant's bitchassness.
 
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