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Cleveland Cavs (2016 NBA Champions)

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Web says we offered all 4 picks to NO for #1...
and NO so dumb they said no... talk about a team
that needs 10 new players

we ain't drafting 4 rookies in one year.. ain't happenin
 
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NJ-Buckeye;2165031; said:
Web says we offered all 4 picks to NO for #1...
and NO so dumb they said no... talk about a team
that needs 10 new players

we ain't drafting 4 rookies in one year.. ain't happenin
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they can't very well give up the rights to drafting anthony davis after stern rigged the lottery for them can they?
 
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I think they still select three. If not three, then it's because they traded
the second rounders and #24 to move up in the first. I gotta give the Cavs mgmt credit for even trying to get the first pick.

At this point, if all the talk of the swap of picks with Portland is true, I'd gladly give up 4 and 24 to get 6 and 11. Then, find someone that's looking to move their late first rounder, for either cash or the 2 seconds.

Either way, thay should be able to get three pretty good players.
 
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NJ-Buckeye;2165031; said:
Web says we offered all 4 picks to NO for #1...
and NO so dumb they said no... talk about a team
that needs 10 new players

we ain't drafting 4 rookies in one year.. ain't happenin
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Like Brutus1 said, I can see us trying to use those last 3 picks to trade up. Or maybe flipping a pick for a future 1st rounder (heavily protected type that we might not get til like 2020)

Now, if we can't trade up or no trades we like, why not draft 4 players? Not like we have alot of good players. Maybe we pick a Euro player that might not be able to come over for 2-3 years, or maybe you take a chance at a guy that really has to develop and might play in the Developmental league. Remember, 2nd round draft picks do NOT have guarenteed contracts. So if you have to cut them, you can cut them.

Then again... I really see us packaging those picks to move up into 13-18 range to get another potential starting player.
 
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If the Cavaliers can move up to where they can draft Leonard, I would do it now. I think that he will be a real NBA center in a couple years and maybe not even that long. He has a nice shot and is very well put together. Put him with a NBA strength and conditioning coach and he will be much better. I am not saying to select him with the #4 pick but somewhere in the 10-15 range if they can get up there.
 
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At this point, Leonard seems to be working his way toward a top
10-12 pick. That's too high for the Cavs to move up or to spend a pick. I still think getting a big like O'Quinn in the second round and using the earlier pick on a wing is the way to go.

I'm sure the Cavs have many scenarios for draft night and they're going to need every one of them one the top 10 picks are announced.

I think we all would like to see the 2 second rounders used to move up in the first, but with the NBDL team in Canton and the lack of talent on the team as it stands, they should be able to get 4 players that are easily better than the garbage they have today. I don't think anything prevents them from putting the second rounders in Canton to get plenty of playing time to work on problems. A strong bench will go a long way to helping this team in the future.
 
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I would still take Zeller over Leonard and I think most NBA teams would as well. He won't jump him, that's for sure.

I think Meyers Leonard's most glaring deficiency seems to be in his head. He does not play smart, though he is skilled and plays stronger than his frame. He runs the court well and plays good defense.
 
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DX says NBA GM's, like Zellers skill better, but think Leonard has more upside. I think they're just saying that because Leonard is 2 years younger. They sure are hesitant when one guy is a Senior and another is a Frosh or Soph.
 
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Brutus1;2165375; said:
DX says NBA GM's, like Zellers skill better, but think Leonard has more upside. I think they're just saying that because Leonard is 2 years younger. They sure are hesitant when one guy is a Senior and another is a Frosh or Soph.
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that's the entire point of projecting. when you have two guys of similar talent levels, and one guy is 3 years younger than the other, NBA teams take the younger player 10 out of 10 times, provided he's not a midget beating, nun mugging, serial rapist.

that's why leonard will go before zeller. most nba gms will realize that zeller is pretty much at his ceiling, while leonard has a lot of developing left.
 
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tsteele316;2165376; said:
that's the entire point of projecting. when you have two guys of similar talent levels, and one guy is 3 years younger than the other, NBA teams take the younger player 10 out of 10 times, provided he's not a midget beating, nun mugging, serial rapist.

that's why leonard will go before zeller. most nba gms will realize that zeller is pretty much at his ceiling, while leonard has a lot of developing left.
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This! It becomes especially helpful when you have a PG of KI's talent and maturity level that can help in bringing a player of Leonard's potential along.

Plus, if I was in position to draft a Zeller, it would be Cody not Tyler. Have to wait until next year for Cody though.
 
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Brutus1;2165375; said:
DX says NBA GM's, like Zellers skill better, but think Leonard has more upside. I think they're just saying that because Leonard is 2 years younger. They sure are hesitant when one guy is a Senior and another is a Frosh or Soph.
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They say to themselves "we know what this guy is and we like him but we think this guy could get better." A lot of GMs get fired for thinking that way and a lot get fired for not thinking that way. It's difficult to simply say a guy is younger and therefore WILL improve. And if he WILL improve, will he be better than the guy you have a good feel about?

NBA GMs have to deal with this more than any other sports. It's one of the reasons why an increased age limit would be beneficial.

For what its worth, I like Leonard a lot. He may be a bit thin, but I thought he more than held his own physically when matched up with Sullinger. He's a bit of a head case though so WILL he improve and CAN he be coached?
 
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...then he turns around and only gains an additional 1.5" on his
max vert. Not good for an average athlete.:)

That does seem pretty odd to only add an inch and a half on your
max vert.

Just looking at that list you realize how worthless the vert numbers really are.
 
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