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BUCK3YE5;2352967; said:
I wonder what is more likely to happen. The geriatric Nets stay healthy and pull it together for a one season run at a title or the young oft injured Cavs stay healthy with enough players developing well enough to make a run at the east. Probably neither.
The Pacers and Bulls (if Rose is 100%) will give the Heat the best run for their money, but the Heat have age issues as well so a healthy Nets or Cavs could probably take them down when Wade misses half the season with osteoporosis.
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Eh, that's a REALLY old roster...and that always brings injury concerns. Yeah, KG can function as a sort of player/coach, but you need an undisputed leader with a roster like that...no telling if Kidd can be that as a coach. They have no true superstar, and a few, if not most of their guys have erroding skills. KG, Pierce and Johnson in particular, possibly Williams too. I just think it looks like a potential train wreck, and it's a really short sighted dream...KG and Pierce have little left in the tank, and the previously mentioned guys aren't spring chickens. I see them as a low 50 win team (4 seed like tsteele said) and likely 2nd round exit. Then they're a dumpster fire for a while.billmac91;2352964; said:
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shiznit7;2352975; said:
I think a lot of people are underselling the Bulls. They were the one-seed two years ago with Rose. If he can be even 90% of what he used to be (which with a full season off, I'd hope he is, or probably never will be), they could compete for another one.
1)Miami
2)Bulls/Pacers
3)Pacers/Bulls
4)Knicks/Nets
5)Nets/Knicks
6)Cavs if Bynum is healthy
7)Pistons
8)Who cares
note: 6-8 have no chance of getting out of round 1 IMO
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But, they have a potentially decent rotation there. If the rest of the guys (Kyrie, Waiters, Bynum, AV, Bennett, Thompson) can stay healthy, I don't think that will be that big a deal. I have a hard time really guessing where the Cavs will finish, and wouldn't even hazard a guess at this point. Bynum is waaaay too big a wildcard. GREAT signing/contract based on the potential, but the risk is at least as big as the potential. If he can be a 30 mpg/16ppg, 10rpg guy, AV can play more than 50 games and provide solid depth, Kyrie can stay off IR, Waiters gets more consistency and Thompson/Bennett can combine for 24/14 a night...this is a formidible team. If Bynum is lazy and aloof and can't stay healthy, Kyrie's injury bug continues to bite, and Waiters continues to follow up 2 good games with 2-3 disasters, they'll struggle to reach the postseason. Too many variables to even pretend to know how good they will be, in my IMO.OH10;2352990; said:
One thing's for sure, they'll be interesting for the first time since that crotch cricket bolted for Miami on national television...
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OH10;2352990; said:
One lineup I heard would be Bennett and Clark on the floor together with Bennett playing the 3 and Clark playing the 4 on offense with a cross match on defense putting Clark on the SF. Thompson is athletic enough that he might be able to defend some NBA 3's as well. I think they will need to find ways to get Bennett on the floor because they will need his offensive game if they want to have a good season.
Adding Bynum to the depth chart should help the depth and rotations by adding a player with offensive skill in the starting lineup with Thompson and allowing Andy to be the 5 when Bennett is spreading the floor at the 4.
IF the Cavs can stay healthy and click at the right time I can see this roster making some noise in the playoffs. I'd much rather be a Cavs fan than a Nets fan right now.
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NFBuck;2353000; said:
I really don't want to see Bynum or Andy averaging much over 20 minutes a game for the regular season. If you look at Andy's minutes he was fine when he was getting 20-25 a game, but after Lebron left and he turned into one of the top scoring options he started getting 30-35 and got hurt all the time. Given his past couple years I want to limit him to 20 minutes and see if he can play like the Andy of old for a whole season. If the combination of Bynum and Andy can average 40 minutes, 25-30 points, 20 rebounds and Kyrie can stay healthy I'll feel pretty good. I think everything else will have an easier time falling in place if those 3 guys perform.
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If Bynum is healthy/motivated, he's a difference maker...it would be hard to keep him off the floor. Remember, he had by far his best season under Mike Brown 2 years ago, averaging 18/11 a game and making the all-star team. If his head is right and his body holds up, I can't see him averaging < 30 minutes a game. That's a big if, though. AV, for as useful as he is situationally, is not a difference maker. At least not offensively in the paint...where the Cavs need major help.exhawg;2353006; said:
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NFBuck;2353008; said:
I agree, but the problem is Bynum won't be healthy. I'd much rather limit him during the season to keep him healthy and then look to get him 30+ in the playoffs. The seed going in doesn't matter as much being healthy when they get there. I'll take a first round matchup with the Heat if I can have a completely healthy Bynum and Irving.
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Yeah, and that's the rub. "Bynum" and "healthy" rarely belong in the same sentence. I truly believe a lot of the injuries he's sat out through were as much mental as physical. Maybe he's finally motivated enough to play through those bumps and bruises to work towards a legitimately big contract. Maybe, big MAYBE, if his year off, and the surgeries have helped him...MAYBE he's healthy and motivated enough to give you a good 65-70 games during the regular season and contribute in April/May. A healthy Bynum at 30 mpg gives you a legit offensive post presence that the Cavs have lacked FOREVER. He probably gives you at least 16/10 a game. That would do wonders for guys like Kyrie, Waiters and even Bennett. I just have a hard time thinking they went out and took a risk on a guy with that potential to limit him to being a 20-25 mpg role player during the season. Dan Gilbert doesn't strike me as that kind of guy. With that contract, I think they swing for the fences and take the chance that they landed a legitimate big man that can make this a really good team.exhawg;2353016; said:
Of course, this being Cleveland, I'm sure he'll crumple into a heap grabbing his knee by December 1st.
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