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Cleveland Browns (2018 Season The NFL is Sorry)

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LordJeffBuck said:
Steelers take Mason Rudolph in round 3, clearly to be the heir apparent to Big Ben.

It will be interesting to see who has the better pro career, Mayfield or Rudolph.
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Seeing the Steelers and Ravens make such competent draft decisions year in and year out is really frustrating. Rudolph was an excellent pick.
 
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RB07OSU said:
Seeing the Steelers and Ravens make such competent draft decisions year in and year out is really frustrating. Rudolph was an excellent pick.
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Rudolph literally looks like Weeden cloned. Same school and everything.

Big arm, little accuracy, can't pace his throws and sprays the ball into zone coverage.

And the Ravens took a QB that won't be playing QB in 5 years. So I feel great about the picks they've made in terms of weakening their own team.
 
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Buckeneye said:
Rudolph literally looks like Weeden cloned. Same school and everything.

Big arm, little accuracy, can't pace his throws and sprays the ball into zone coverage.

And the Ravens took a QB that won't be playing QB in 5 years. So I feel great about the picks they've made in terms of weakening their own team.
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Except Rudolph isn't 80 years old and has about a 65% accuracy rate. I honestly thought Rudolph was a borderline 1st rounder, so I think it was a huge value pick. And it not, you spent a 3rd round pick on him, go for a better QB later. That being said, I sure hope you are right. Fuck Pittsburgh and Baltimore, I truly want them to fail and have the Ohio teams run the AFC North.
 
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LordJeffBuck said:
It will be interesting to see who has the better pro career, Mayfield or Rudolph.
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Snap judgement is Mayfield is the better prospect over Rudolph because of velocity and accuracy; which I've pounded the table about for two years because I think Mayfield is crazy underrated due simply to not being ideal prototypical size. Mayfield put his arm talent on display multiple times over the past two years. I believe Rosen has the highest floor of all this years' QBs, but if the Browns are willing to commit to running a college-hybrid offense like the Rams, Eagles, or Chiefs, Mayfield could succeed in that.
 
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RB07OSU said:
Except Rudolph isn't 80 years old and has about a 65% accuracy rate. I honestly thought Rudolph was a borderline 1st rounder, so I think it was a huge value pick. And it not, you spent a 3rd round pick on him, go for a better QB later. That being said, I sure hope you are right. Fuck Pittsburgh and Baltimore, I truly want them to fail and have the Ohio teams run the AFC North.
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Completion % does not = accuracy. We need to get past treating that stat like it's some kind of sacred cow.
Especially considering his predecessor that I mentioned broke the school record for completion percentage in a season @ 72%.


Anticipation, ball placement, timing, variable velocity and downfield vision should all be taken into consideration over raw numbers.
That's how the stat nerd at PFF end up having Corey fucking Coleman as their #1 rated WR for the NFL draft.

While I'm at it, anyone here go and have a look at Mayfield from 2016 to 2017 and tell me if you see a more polished QB -OR- you see a great system put in place by one of the best offensive minds in football that acknowledges and masks his QB's shortcomings while setting his primary reads up nicely time and time again.

Baker comes from your typical b12, one read offense. Same philosophy that Weeden, Mahomes, Johnny, etc etc all hail from. Is it possible they all improve? Sure, anything is 50/50. But I don't go off what is possible, I go off what is probable.

For that reason alone I can't get behind this pick.
 
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Dryden said:
Snap judgement is Mayfield is the better prospect over Rudolph because of velocity and accuracy; which I've pounded the table about for two years because I think Mayfield is crazy underrated due simply to not being ideal prototypical size. Mayfield put his arm talent on display multiple times over the past two years. I believe Rosen has the highest floor of all this years' QBs, but if the Browns are willing to commit to running a college-hybrid offense like the Rams, Eagles, or Chiefs, Mayfield could succeed in that.
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Also seems like the timing of the jarvis Landry acquisition coincides with the decision to take Mayfield. Will probably see Duke as 4th receiver quite a bit.

Meantime... Starting to take high risk/high reward guys. Maurice Hurst... Which seems like a heck of a good gamble.... And Antonio Callaway... Meh don't really need those headaches.
 
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