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On twitter, I follow about 15 different official Ohio State accounts and about ten from the U of C. I also follow that idiotic clown President that they have down there right now, and I swear that he tweets more than all the Ohio State-Chicago accounts combined.

Also, he's taken to tweeting pics of juggalos forming U-C with their bodies in various spots around the world. I wonder where those clever juggalos came up with that?

"bUCkeye state"
Script Cincinnati
And now, "U-C"

The longing to be big brother has grown to pathological levels.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
Also, he's taken to tweeting pics of juggalos forming U-C with their bodies in various spots around the world.
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I wonder if he's going for the "U" or the "C" here?
 
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The only thing that keeps it from perfection is that they didn't add, "of Ohio." They loathe that because it reminds them that they are merely one of The Other State Universities in Ohio rather than the poor man's Denison that they like to think of themselves as.
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"The Other State Universities" is totally new to me... If you just thought of that, you're a goddamn genius.
 
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Geeez, Ord, leave a guy with an MEd degree from UC something to live with. Yea, Nippert Stadium is small and yea the Buckeyes and Bearcats are not at the same level in FOOTBALL, but many's the year in which Cincinnati would take the basketball winnings. Further, it was not so long ago that UC's med school and hospital were ranked ahead of Ohio State's - not to mention Case-Western Reserve which probably still ranks ahead of Ohio State in medical research. UC's Design Art and Architecture Program remains top tier in the nation as does Cincinnati Conservatory of Music.

Unlike the current The Ohio State University, Cincinnati admits anyone from Ohio with a high school diploma and the cost of tuition, making it a true PUBLIC university, not a public Ivy for the select few and the lazy sons and daughters of alumni donors. Just as The Ohio State University of my day did, UC flunks somewhere between 1/3 and 1/2 of their freshman in the first year.

I've got my issues with the Cincinnati media and the culture of the town. I understand why Ohio State doesn't want a basketball series with UC - it's a no win situation, but I'd love to see the football team go to PBS in Cincinnati and Cleveland more often if for no other reason than to show the flag and remind the locals that Ohio State is their school too.

Finally, my UC degree turned out to be worth the time and effort. The education college had just recovered from a scathing review from North Central, much of which had to do with nepotism - hiring their own PHDs. The school cleaned house and a bunch of new Turks were brought in to right matters. They were excellent and what they presented was challenging, informative and current. I walked out better prepared as a teacher than when I entered.

That said, I still remain a Buckeye first, foremost and always.
 
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Juggalo smack aside, I do believe that UC was the only municipal university that the state should have saved. UT and Akron should have been folded into BG and KSU respectively. I also believe that there is a role for UC as some kind of secondary public research university in Ohio. I actually have a lot more respect for them than I do for Fredo and Beavis, whose sole institutional goal in life seems to revolve around biting our ankles.

That being said, the current Juggalo President is a fucking menace with his "multiple flagships" b.s. For such a bright guy, he should bother to actually look up the definition of "flagship." Somebody needs to also tell him that Ohio tried that in the 60s and 70s, and it failed miserably. It created a redundant, unregulated mess of a system that spread resources way too thin. Did you know that by the 80s, Ohio public universities had more PhD programs in physics, chemistry, history and political science than did the state system in California despite having a third the number of public 4 year universities and a quarter the population. None of them--outside of Ohio State--were worth a shit, but they were all funded equally. Throw in his whining that Cincy can't get into the AAU or get a Comprehensive Cancer Center designation because big brother is keeping them down not to mention the well documented bitchassery of their athletic administration, and I've come to take a scorched earth approach to UC.

He has shut up about "multiple flagships" though, and I wonder if Kasich had a talk with him and told him to go get his fucking shinebox. That being said, and given the business/political resources of Cincinnati and the culture down there, he--unlike the clowns at Akron or OU--has the potential to cause real trouble. He does, however, seem way too ambitious to stay at UC and will hopefully just use them as a stepping stone to a better job and will soon pack up his shinebox and his twitter account and GTFO.
 
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but I'd love to see the football team go to PBS in Cincinnati and Cleveland more often if for no other reason than to show the flag and remind the locals that Ohio State is their school too.
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I'm on board. I was there when Toledo "hosted" Ohio State in Cleveland. It was great. It'd be pretty awesome if Ohio State did that every other year. I doubt that Ohio State would do that, since I believe they're fixin' to add a conference game (which reduces a home game every other year).

Instead of playing Cincinnati in Paul Brown Stadium, it would be cool to see Miami play Ohio State in PBS. Ha!
 
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I'm on board. I was there when Toledo "hosted" Ohio State in Cleveland. It was great. It'd be pretty awesome if Ohio State did that every other year. I doubt that Ohio State would do that, since I believe they're fixin' to add a conference game (which reduces a home game every other year).

Instead of playing Cincinnati in Paul Brown Stadium, it would be cool to see Miami play Ohio State in PBS. Ha!
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That would be phenomenal. What better shit sandwich to feed the juggalo athletic department for all their childish antics than to come to PBS............for a game with Fredo.
 
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That would be phenomenal. What better [Mark May] sandwich to feed the juggalo athletic department for all their childish antics than to come to PBS............for a game with Fredo.
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Dear Lord no. If you want to poke UC in the eye, play somebody like Louisville or Kentucky at PBS. If OSU played Miami at PBS, it would just give the bUCkeye state crowd ammo for their argument that OSU is "scared" to play UC at home. I realize it would be entertaining to watch the meltdown in Cincinnati from the safety of Chicago, but I have to live here.
 
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That would be phenomenal. What better [Mark May] sandwich to feed the juggalo athletic department for all their childish antics than to come to PBS............for a game with Fredo.
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No, no, no. You offer UK a game at "neutral" PBS. Better still Notre Dame. That pisses off everybody except UK and OSU fans and the later would drive the Irish from one of their prime recruiting areas.

Now then, Ord, your posts always make me laugh, even when you slam my second alma mater, but I have to ask you this; why would a college hire a president whose goal was to be the second best school in the state?

I understand all too well the politics that went on with Schriver and Jim Rhodes and the duplication of resources and energy that situation created. I appreciate how long a struggle it has been to bring reason to the state's higher level education program, but Ono's loud mouth has awakened a relatively detached alumni base, gotten the gifts and endowments up and attracted faculty who ordinarily wouldn't look at UC. He is ambitious and he probably will be gone soon, but improving UC helps all of Ohio.
 
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No, no, no. You offer UK a game at "neutral" PBS. Better still Notre Dame. That pisses off everybody except UK and OSU fans and the later would drive the Irish from one of their prime recruiting areas.

Now then, Ord, your posts always make me laugh, even when you slam my second alma mater, but I have to ask you this; why would a college hire a president whose goal was to be the second best school in the state?

I understand all too well the politics that went on with Schriver and Jim Rhodes and the duplication of resources and energy that situation created. I appreciate how long a struggle it has been to bring reason to the state's higher level education program, but Ono's loud mouth has awakened a relatively detached alumni base, gotten the gifts and endowments up and attracted faculty who ordinarily wouldn't look at UC. He is ambitious and he probably will be gone soon, but improving UC helps all of Ohio.
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Improving UC is one thing. That's not what he was publicly blathering about. He specifically was calling for "multiple flagships." And it was clear that he wasn't just calling for some type of secondary flagship status for UC, though that was probably his realistic aim. He was trying to rally all the other schools around his crusade with the hopes that they too could be a flagship. OU; you're a flagship. Akron; you're a flagship. Miami of Ohio; you're a flagship. Everyone's a fucking flagship. To pursue his goals and get the other schools on his side, he was ready and willing to take the system back to exactly the mess that you describe.

It's not his job to make UC the best school in the state. It's his job to fulfill UC's role in the Ohio higher education system to the best of their ability. That helps all of Ohio. People always talk about how the California Master Plan created a system that was virtually free for California residents. There was an equally important other side to that coin (and one that played a big part in allowing the low cost one to exist), and that was that the CMP was a rigidly organized hierarchy. Schools had a role to play, and they didn't stray from it. Cal State schools were barred from offering doctoral programs or doing research (similar to Ohio's Eagleson Bill of 1906). Even within the UC system, there was a hierarchy, and if the Chancellor of Irvine or Davis started giving public interviews whining that his branch should be a co-flagship with Berkeley, he would have been looking for a new job fairly quickly. Not every public university in a state gets to be the Berkeley. That's not UC's role in Ohio.
 
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Improving UC is one thing. That's not what he was publicly blathering about. He specifically was calling for "multiple flagships." And it was clear that he wasn't just calling for some type of secondary flagship status for UC, though that was probably his realistic aim. He was trying to rally all the other schools around his crusade with the hopes that they too could be a flagship. OU; you're a flagship. Akron; you're a flagship. Miami of Ohio; you're a flagship. Everyone's a fucking flagship. To pursue his goals and get the other schools on his side, he was ready and willing to take the system back to exactly the mess that you describe.

It's not his job to make UC the best school in the state. It's his job to fulfill UC's role in the Ohio higher education system to the best of their ability. That helps all of Ohio. People always talk about how the California Master Plan created a system that was virtually free for California residents. There was an equally important other side to that coin (and one that played a big part in allowing the low cost one to exist), and that was that the CMP was a rigidly organized hierarchy. Schools had a role to play, and they didn't stray from it. Cal State schools were barred from offering doctoral programs or doing research (similar to Ohio's Eagleson Bill of 1906). Even within the UC system, there was a hierarchy, and if the Chancellor of Irvine or Davis started giving public interviews whining that his branch should be a co-flagship with Berkeley, he would have been looking for a new job fairly quickly. Not every public university in a state gets to be the Berkeley. That's not UC's role in Ohio.
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I hear you. If Ohio State were in Cleveland, his call would make much more sense. But the geography/political/economic issue doesn't play out that way. The original thinking put tOSU in the center of the state for that very reason. If I have to justify Ono I would add that he came to the office with a sizable debt to pay off due to the ambitions of his predecessor(s). With all of higher education getting a smaller chunk of the prize he wasn't going to get closer to the money trough without political help from others, hence his irritating actions and political scheming.

The Cal system has been in place only since the early 1950's and supported by both political parties within the state. It was legitimized by the fact that Cal Berkeley was the oldest college in the state. However, despite being much younger than Berkeley, by 1950 UCLA had to be given an equal share of the Cal System top-dog status for obvious political/economic and geographic reasons. Ohio State's youth, when compared to her sister schools within the state, creates envy - how come the slipper fits her foot and she gets to live in the castle with the Prince?
 
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