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Cincinnati Bearcats (Juggalos official thread of Faygo)

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cincibuck said:
I hear you. If Ohio State were in Cleveland, his call would make much more sense. But the geography/political/economic issue doesn't play out that way. The original thinking put the university in the center of the state for that very reason. If I have to justify Ono I would add that he came to the office with a sizable debt to pay off due to the ambitions of his predecessor(s). With all of higher education getting a smaller chunk of the prize he wasn't going to get closer to the money trough without political help from others, hence his irritating actions and political scheming.

The Cal system has been in place only since the early 1950's and supported by both political parties within the state. It was legitimized by the fact that Cal Berkeley was the oldest college in the state. However, despite being much younger than Berkeley, by 1950 UCLA had to be given an equal share of the Cal System top-dog status for obvious political/economic and geographic reasons. Ohio State's youth, when compared to her sister schools within the state, creates envy - how come the slipper fits her foot and she gets to live in the castle with the Prince?
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I don't think UCLA was truly a co-equal flagship to Berkeley until at least the late 60s or 70s. Besides, California is a unique situation: a state of nearly 40M population with two global class cities 400 miles apart. The only thing similar would be if Ohio, Indiana and Illinois were all one state with a Chicago at each end of it.

The only other state that I can think of as having relatively co-equal flagships is Indiana with IU and Purdue. Usually there is a distinct hierarchy in states that split the land-grant function away from the older "Unviersity of" school: Texas, Michigan, Virginia, Washington and so on. Ohio's model was based on singular flagship states that combined the land grant function with the traditional Arts & Sciences university: Illinois, Wisconsin, Minnesota and California. As to why the state of Ohio had to found an entirely new school to fulfill that role is a whole other post, but there were numerous concrete reasons. Fredo and Beavis didn't get cheated out of anything. They pissed away their chance by being crap, and Cincy didn't even exist at that time. I know UC uses that older founding date of one of the colleges that was merged together, but modern UC was created in the wake of Ohio State's founding through a political compromise that Hayes made with Cincinnati politicians to found Ohio State and put it in Columbus away from the hands of the ag interests. In return, he allowed for the creation of municipal universities in cities of over 150K population, which was only Cincinnati at the time. You can strongly argue the UC was the sloppy afterbirth to the founding of Ohio State. They are the Danny DeVito to our Arnold.
 
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CincyInterloper said:
So UC is the ugly streetwise brother of the intelligent but naive OSU who just found out they were separated at birth, and wants to reconnect? I'm good with that. I'm sure Arnold would agree to play DeVito at Nippert.
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Yes. And instead of attempting to weasel and con their big brother, which will inevitably end in failure, the scheming afterbirth should come to grips with who they are and accept their role in the larger order of things.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
Yes. And instead of attempting to weasel and con their big brother, which will inevitably end in failure, the scheming afterbirth should come to grips with who they are and accept their role in the larger order of things.
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I guess we'll have a rye-fueled punch out in Chicago to settle this. :-) In the meantime, Thanks, UC. Thanks, OSU, Go Bucks!
 
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It funny because they're juggalos!

http://www.foxsports.com/college-fo...kes-every-conference-richer-except-one-050415

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http://citybeat.com/cincinnati/article-32706-robin_hood_in_reverse.html

Robin Hood in Reverse
How universities force working-class students to pay thousands of dollars in hidden fees to athletic departments awash in red ink

Kevin Leugers pays the University of Cincinnati to provide him with a quality education.

The second-year student majoring in marketing and philosophy had no idea officials had quietly funneled tens of millions of dollars from students to the athletic department in recent years to cover the difference between revenue and expenses.

“It seems to be a corruption of education, in all honesty,” says Leugers, a University Honors Program student and Kolodzik Business Scholar. “Athletics is being given priority over education, over the professors, over the students. I just think that’s wrong.”

In 2013, UC officials provided the athletic department with a $21.75 million subsidy, records show, using student fees and money from the school’s general fund, which is primarily funded by tuition. The total subsidy amounts to $1,024 out of the pocket of every full-time undergraduate student on UC’s main campus. The four-year price tag costs each student more than $4,000.

The money represents 20 percent of the $20,000 Leugers plans to borrow to finance his education.

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