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Anybody would be a fool to bash LeBron, and I know that. Without him, this team wouldn't win 20 games. My previous post is just out of growing frustration of a losing streak. We all need to step back sometimes and see that this is a twenty one year old kid with the weight of a franchise, and quite possibly a league, on his shoulders. The clutch play will come, but what annoys me about this team as a whole at this point in the season is how underwhelming they seem to be when they are in tough games. Mike Brown needs to get these guys clicking better under pressure, because right now, whatever he is doing isn't working. This is two consecutive tough losses on national TV. He needs to light a fire under their asses. I'm not writing Brown off as a coach, he came into the job with a tremendous reputation, but so far in the games I have been able to watch, he doesn't seem to have much of a presence about him. When you looked at Paul Silas on the bench, he atleast seemed like he was steering the ship. Brown doesn't look like that to me right now. I hope he can get things going, but with each loss, this team is looking more and more like last years Cavs. Hopefully they can right this ship, because the talent is there.
 
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Don't mean to be a wet blanket but...

Michael Jordan, age 19:

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tibor75 said:
the next Jordan?

:slappy:
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LeBron James in the NBA at age 21...
CAREER SHOOTING STATS
SEASON TEAM G MIN FG FGA FG% FG3 FG3A FG3% FT FTA FT% PTS AVG
2003-04 Cle. 79 3122 622 1492 41.7 63 217 29.0 347 460 75.4 1654 20.9
2004-05 Cle. 80 3388 795 1684 47.2 108 308 35.1 477 636 75.0 2175 27.2
2005-06 Cle. 35 1470 386 768 50.3 59 167 35.3 257 342 75.1 1088 31.1
TOTAL * 194 7980 1803 3944 45.7 230 692 33.2 1081 1438 75.2 4917 25.3

Michael Jordan in the NBA at age 21...







Any questions?
 
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tibor75 said:
the next Jordan?

:slappy:
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LeBron James in the NBA at age 21...
CAREER SHOOTING STATS

SEASON TEAM G MIN FG FGA FG% FG3 FG3A FG3% FT FTA FT% PTS AVG
2003-04 Cle. 79 3122 622 1492 41.7 63 217 29.0 347 460 75.4 1654 20.9
2004-05 Cle. 80 3388 795 1684 47.2 108 308 35.1 477 636 75.0 2175 27.2
2005-06 Cle. 35 1470 386 768 50.3 59 167 35.3 257 342 75.1 1088 31.1
TOTAL * 194 7980 1803 3944 45.7 230 692 33.2 1081 1438 75.2 4917 25.3

Michael Jordan in the NBA at age 21...
CAREER SHOOTING STATS







Any questions?
 
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1/19/06

Cavaliers lose close one again

Losing streak reaches five as plays fail in the clutch

By Brian Windhorst

Beacon Journal sportswriter

<!-- begin body-content -->DENVER - Bare-chested with water and redness in his eyes, LeBron James quietly held his head in a brooding locker room late Wednesday night.
He is not used to failure, not used to not coming through when it really matters, not used to being the goat.
But that was the crown James had to wear as the Cavaliers again let a victory slide through their hands on their brutal western trip.
The Cavs' superstar missed what could've been a tying free throw with six-tenths of a second to play, and the Denver Nuggets narrowly, narrowly, edged the Cavs 90-89 at the Pepsi Center. It was the third time on the trip that the Cavs' play in the final seconds has failed them, the third time missed free throws did them in, and the third time they've lost by two points or less.
There are no moral victories or sympathy in the NBA, so the brutal truth is the Cavs (20-16) have dropped five consecutive games and six out of eight overall.
And here comes the fallout: It's the second time on the road trip James has missed a crucial free throw, the other in a 99-98 loss to the L.A. Lakers last week. In Sunday's rough, 89-87 defeat in Portland, it was Eric Snow who missed a big free throw.
``It is something I need to work on to get better at and when I get better at it we'll be a better team,'' James said. ``I lost the game for us.''
In truth, James wasn't alone. The Cavs had so many chances to force overtime or pull the game out. With 11 seconds to play, the seldom-used Sasha Pavlovic missed two free throws that could've tied the score. Then, when Snow somehow found the rebound, Pavlovic turned the ball over in a wild attempt to get to the basket. James might've had an open look, but dished to Pavlovic instead. Even when James missed at the end, Alan Henderson got a few fingers on the rebound and tipped it true off the glass, only to see the ball rattle out at the final horn.
``I thought his free throw was going in,'' Henderson said. ``I thought my tip was going down, too, but it was no good.''
The emotions of it all zapped the team, which had fought hard all night just to be in the game. Without Drew Gooden and with Zydrunas Ilgauskas fighting through knee pain in the fourth game of a road trip, numerous players attempted to step up.
Being swarmed by defenders at every turn, James played a team game and neared a triple-double with 24 points, 11 rebounds and nine assists. Henderson played his best game as a Cav, substituting for Gooden with 16 points and 12 rebounds. Ilgauskas scored 16 points, 12 in the second quarter when the Cavs rallied from 16 points back, and had seven rebounds. Donyell Marshall came off the bench and scored nine points and grabbed six rebounds.
The Cavs held Nuggets (21-19) star Carmelo Anthony to just 17 points, Kenyon Martin to 3-of-16 shooting and Denver to just 39 percent shooting for the game, including 5-of-22 in the fourth quarter.
But they were also a miserable 20-of-35 from the foul line and just 3-of-10 in the fourth quarter, not the recipe for winning basketball.
Cavs coach Mike Brown was more angry about offensive rebounds, which Denver got eight of in the fourth quarter to survive its shooting woes, than the foul shooting. But in all honesty, Brown was just angry in general about what has befallen his team of late.
``It was a great experience for our younger guys but you have to win the freakin' game,'' Brown said. ``We played too good of defense for that kind of stuff to bite us in the behind.''
Eduardo Najera came off the bench and played his best game of the season for Denver, scoring 16 points and grabbing 12 rebounds. Super sub Earl Boykins scored 17 points, including a clutch 3-pointer with 33 seconds left that stripped the Cavs of the lead for good.
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They say to beat Jordan you would have to cut his heart out. Obviously, Lebron isnt on that level yet, and its ridiculous for him to be getting called the "second coming of Jordan" by the media every 15 minutes, hes not even close yet. Can he be? Yeah, but hes not even close yet.
 
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Well that game reminded me of the Colts/Steelers game this weekend. The Cavs looked totally dead a few times after missed FT's. Then rather than let the Cavs shoot a 3 the Nuggets foul Lebron so he will only get to shoot 2 FT's. Lebron makes the first and purposely misses the second. In an amazing play Lebron flies into the lane to follow his miss and gets fouled so that he gets 2 more FT's to try to tie up the game. Of course he misses the second so the Nuggets go home winners and Lebron still can't make the big shot even though he had had a bad night at the line all night as it was. I still wish that Lebron would take the big shot at the end of the game, but I don't know if I can blame him for passing to a wide open Pavlovic who had already hit a couple easy 3's in the half. I will blame Pavlovic for being a waste of space by missing 2 FT's and not taking the open 3 when he had the chance. I wish the Cavs would trade him away right now and give Jackson the minutes that they are thinking about giving Pavlovic and Newble. Newble may have used to be a defensive specialist, but now he has 0 offensive game and plays below average defense. Henderson had a good day filling in for Gooden, but I would still like to see Wild Thing play more. Gooden will hopefully be back for the next game, but the guard play is what's killing the Cavs right now.
 
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StadiumDorm said:
pro players get paid to deal with it.
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This was the anonymous ding I recieved for my comment that Damon Jones should not have been booed by his own fans. Please don't be afraid to engage this discussion with me on the thread rather than anonymously somewhere else.

You don't boo your own players for two reasons, and neither of them has to do with whether the player "deserves" it because he's getting paid: 1) It has no positive effect on how the player is playing, especially if that player is shooting as poorly as DJones lately. 2) It shows to free agents out there and to one King Lebron James (who is friends with DJones) that the City of Cleveland is only behind their players when they are winning, but are quick to turn their back.

If you're a real fan, you don't boo your team's players. If you're a bandwagon, fairweather fan, you do. It's that simple. It's more egregious if you're booing an amateur such as a Bellisari or Troy Smith, but it's also ridiculous if they're a pro player for your team (unless, of course, we're talking about Terrell Owens or Ron Artest.)
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waaah!!!
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Again, another anonymous ding rather than choosing to have an intelligent debate. I don't really care about the dinging as you can see I'm maxed out. I just wish this person would stop being such a coward.
 
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scarletngrey77 said:
He doesnt have the same killler-instinct or heart as Jordan... hes not even close to the player that Michael was, hes not even in the same sport.

Is he afraid to take a game-winning shot?
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I don't think he is afraid to take the game winning shot, but he wants the best shot possible, which I guess could be a fault. Last night he made a great pass to Pavlovic and left him a wide open 3. Unfortunately Pavlovic didn't take the shot. Is that Lebron's fault for making a good pass to one of the teams better 3 pt shooters? Jordan passed it to Kerr to win the Finals once IIRC. Is it better for Lebron to take a shot with 2 guys draped on him, or make the extra pass and get someone else wide open?
Lebron probably needs to be more selfish, but he also needs the rest of his team to be ready to take the shot if they get it. Do you think Hughes, Z, Jones, or Marshall would have passed on that 3 last night like Pavlovic did? I don't.
 
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What can be expected? This current lineup is worse than last years. When you're starting Snow and Newble and your pf is Henderson (great game anyway), why would anyone not want to double LBJ and Z in crunch time?

I agree with everyone here: what the heck was Pavlovic doing out there so much? He's Jiri Welsch with nicer hair.

They'll be able to win some of these close games when Gooden comes back.

Jordan didn't have his first buzzer beater until his 5th year in the league (over Ehlo). That's not meant to compare the two, just an interesting tidbit.

He'll eventually develop that game winning shot. Once it happens the first time, he'll probably get more confident.

Larry Hughes better be a quick healer.

Z actually missed 2 ft last night. He also took the technical shot when LBJ was on the floor.
 
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