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scarletngrey77 said:
How the hell dont you have James take any of the game winning shots?

Mike Brown showed me how stupid he was yesterday by having Z isolated on Nash 5 plays in a row, but today he even exceeded that...
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I don't think Brown said LBJ don't take the shot, I think it was LBJ not taking the shot. He took the ball to the whole both times when they were down 1 and then 2 and both times he kicked it out.

I think I have fiugred it out, the Cavs don't have a go to guy in the fourth quarter. They don't have anyone with that killer instinct. I have seen LBJ string a couple together in the 4th before, but not on a consistent basis. I am sure the team looks to him to make that shot when they need it, but right now he isnt doing it.

Much like Jordan used to do, you know damn well he was takin' that shot against Utah in the finals, or any other buzzer beater he took. As for LBJ he had a chance against LA and tonite against Portland. Against LA Kobe showed him how it was done even if you have two guys right in your face and tonite he shyed away from the shot.

This lose was not on the coach tonite in any way. It comes down first and fore most that the players on the court need to realize that Z was 10/11 and the ball might want to go to his hands or maybe knocking down a couple more free throws, or not takin' so many damn 3's when they arent fallin'.
 
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crazybuckfan40 said:
So you think Brown drew up a play for a 3 pointer when we were down 1, and you think that he wanted Snow to take the final shot instead of anyone else on the team.
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All im saying is that there was a timeout before the 1st shot, and most of the time they call a certain play or draw one up. Lebron drove to the basket as soon as he got the ball, and kicked it out without even hesitating the slightest, it doesnt make sense but yes, I do believe that. There was absolutely no hesitation by James to kick it out. As far as the second shot went, that shit just got screwed up, Portland played good defense and no one had an open shot.
 
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scarletngrey77 said:
All im saying is that there was a timeout before the 1st shot, and most of the time they call a certain play or draw one up. Lebron drove to the basket as soon as he got the ball, and kicked it out without even hesitating the slightest, it doesnt make sense but yes, I do believe that. There was absolutely no hesitation by James to kick it out. As far as the second shot went, that shit just got screwed up, Portland played good defense and no one had an open shot.
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Ok I know you have watched a lot of bball so you know down the stretch a lot of team will give the ball to their best player and just tell him to create. Much like I am sure Brown did as that is what we always do down the stretch.

My problem is that LBJ could of taken both of those shots from about 8 foot and put up some sort of runner.

And if you are telling me LBJ can't create with Ruben Patterson on him then we have a problem, and we might not win another game.

Not sure on the final number, but LBJ had 18 in the first quarter I believe and only finished with a total of around 30. I know some of his shots werent falling, but the shots he was taking were nowhere near what he should of been taking. Hell I even screamed at the tv when he took that 3 he took to put them up 1 with about 3 minutes left.

In the first quarter he was getting the ball in teh low block and dominating. He didnt do any of that in the second half.
 
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I agree with everything really.

Its so painfull watching this team. No one has the killer instinct, and I do in fact question their heart. After a tough shot or something, our players also lolly gag around and sink their heads. Another thing that is the problem is the offensive ball movement, no one is moving without the basketball.
 
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scarletngrey77 said:
I agree with everything really.

Its so painfull watching this team. No one has the killer instinct, and I do in fact question their heart. After a tough shot or something, our players also lolly gag around and sink their heads. Another thing that is the problem is the offensive ball movement, no one is moving without the basketball.
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Yeah there was one possesion where Wilkes came down the floor and dribbled for 18 seconds and then threw a pass that was tipped out of bounds, leaving us with just 5 seconds on the shot clock. This was in the middle of a quarter too.

I hate that there is no movement. These guys need to suck it up and act like they don't like to lose.

I hate to be down on my team like this, but I just hate these funks they go into, much like the end of last year and one earlier this season. I also really hate the fact that they cannot make freethrows. They are professionals. I mean they can sit in a gym all day and practice if they want too.

I will say that this team has great potential, it is just how they make use of that potential that will determine their fate.

On a side note anyone heard how long till Gooden comes back?
 
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Why the need to put up 25 3's a game?

Gooden better get back quickly. Z and Lebron can only do so much with Snow, Jones and Henderson in the starting lineup.

On a positive note, Z has been shooting so good lately, it's sick. He's dead on from 12-15 ft. When's the last time you've seen a center take the technical free throw?
 
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1/16/06

Injuries taking toll on Cavs

Gooden strains right thigh, joins Hughes on sideline

By Brian Windhorst

Beacon Journal sportswriter

<!-- begin body-content -->PORTLAND, ORE. - Drew Gooden takes pride in playing though injuries, which indicates just how hurt the Cavaliers forward is.
Gooden sat out the game against the Portland Trail Blazers on Sunday after suffering a pulled muscle in the back of his right thigh in Saturday's loss in Phoenix to the Suns.
It was the first time in 131 games that Gooden has been out due to injury and the first since that he has been with the Cavs.
He's being listed as day-to-day, but considering it is a pull of a big muscle, he's likely to miss several games.
``I couldn't run, jump or even twist,'' Gooden said. ``It might feel good right now, but the same thing could happen again or worse. I don't want that to happen; I want a full recovery.''
It came as a blow to the Cavs, who are already living without Larry Hughes for the next six weeks with a fractured finger. Alan Henderson made his second start of the season in place of Gooden on Sunday.
Gooden had been playing some of his best basketball of late, racking up three consecutive double-doubles and then scoring 12 points and getting six rebounds in just 20 minutes before getting hurt against the Suns.
He's averaging 11.4 points and 8.7 rebounds per game this season.
``With two starters out, and being in the midst of a long road trip, it makes for a tough situation,'' Cavs coach Mike Brown said. ``But this is good in a way because it is going to give us an opportunity to grow.''
The beneficiary of the injury might be second-year forward Anderson Varejao. Activated last Thursday after missing the first 32 games of the season with a shoulder injury, Varejao had played just two minutes in his first two games back.
Zendon Hamilton, who's 10-day contract expires Saturday, was activated in place of Gooden.
Jack is back
When the Cavs come to town, usually the biggest celebrity is LeBron James. Not exactly the case in Portland, where Luke Jackson is a local hero after starring at the nearby University of Oregon, where he was a first-team All-American. A native of Creswell, Ore., Jackson missed his first homecoming chance last year because he was recovering from back surgery.
``I remember watching the game and falling in and out of sleep while I was on a morphine drip and I saw people with signs wishing me well, so I've been looking forward to this,'' Jackson said. ``I think my teammates were surprised at just how many fans I had here.''
Jackson has been fighting for playing time since Hughes went down but has been inconsistent.
He scored 11 points in the loss to the Los Angeles Lakers but in a career-high 18 minutes went 0-of-7 from the field with three turnovers in Phoenix.
U.S. pool set
The draw for the 2006 World Championships was held Sunday in Toyko, the U.S. team will play Puerto Rico, Slovenia, Italy, China and Senegal in the preliminary rounds of the event in August.
James officially announced his commitment to the team on Saturday after meeting with USA Basketball managing director Jerry Colangelo.
``I wanted a more clear vision of what I was getting myself into,'' James said. ``(Colangelo) came to me and I got a great explanation and I feel comfortable with it. We want revenge from what happened last time.''
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My biggest worry about the game last night is that Lebron didn't seem to want to take the final shot. All the ^^^^^^ BS about Brown drawing up a play is exactly that BS. It was Lebron's ball to do with as he pleased and he didn't want the shot. That was Lebron's opportunity to shed the label of not being able to hit the big shot and he passed on it. How often did Jordan or Kobe pass up a chance at a game winning shot? All I can think of is the Jordan pass to Kerr to beat the Jazz and maybe Fisher getting the ball instead of Kobe for the catch and shoot against the Spurs.
Say what you will about Snow, but he was the third best player for the Cavs last night. The rest of the team played that bad.
The Cavs once again had several dumb turnovers and missed too many FT's. Fix that and they win the game without 2 starters.
My biggest problem right now is that Brown continues to play Henderson and Newble when he has Wild Thing and Jackson sitting on the bench. Newble has 0 offensive game and his defense isn't that good. It seemed to me that every time Wild Thing got on the court good things happened. I missed him playing in the first half when he had the great feed to Lebron for the dunk, but he had a great steal in the second half that lead to a runout for Lebron. He also got the Cavs a couple rebounds that they had no business getting. Henderson is a good player to have on the team, but AV needs more playing time.
I though Jones had heated up from the 3 pt line, but 3-10 isn't much better than he was doing. Marshall's 1-5 was even worse. Those guys need to heat up. Marshall was off on everything yesterday, which was painfully obvious when he missed 2 FT's in a row.
Mike Wilks can bring the ball up the court, but I never want to see him drive to the lane again unless it is completely cleared out. The block against him last night looked like that cell phone commercial where the guy gets the ball blocked into his face and breaks his nose.
 
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exhawg said:
My biggest worry about the game last night is that Lebron didn't seem to want to take the final shot. All the ^^^^^^ BS about Brown drawing up a play is exactly that BS. It was Lebron's ball to do with as he pleased and he didn't want the shot. That was Lebron's opportunity to shed the label of not being able to hit the big shot and he passed on it. How often did Jordan or Kobe pass up a chance at a game winning shot? All I can think of is the Jordan pass to Kerr to beat the Jazz and maybe Fisher getting the ball instead of Kobe for the catch and shoot against the Spurs.
Say what you will about Snow, but he was the third best player for the Cavs last night. The rest of the team played that bad.
The Cavs once again had several dumb turnovers and missed too many FT's. Fix that and they win the game without 2 starters.
My biggest problem right now is that Brown continues to play Henderson and Newble when he has Wild Thing and Jackson sitting on the bench. Newble has 0 offensive game and his defense isn't that good. It seemed to me that every time Wild Thing got on the court good things happened. I missed him playing in the first half when he had the great feed to Lebron for the dunk, but he had a great steal in the second half that lead to a runout for Lebron. He also got the Cavs a couple rebounds that they had no business getting. Henderson is a good player to have on the team, but AV needs more playing time.
I though Jones had heated up from the 3 pt line, but 3-10 isn't much better than he was doing. Marshall's 1-5 was even worse. Those guys need to heat up. Marshall was off on everything yesterday, which was painfully obvious when he missed 2 FT's in a row.
Mike Wilks can bring the ball up the court, but I never want to see him drive to the lane again unless it is completely cleared out. The block against him last night looked like that cell phone commercial where the guy gets the ball blocked into his face and breaks his nose.
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Yeah I couldnt agree more on LBJ and the last shot of the game.

As for Jones and Marshall their shots will come, but they need to realize when they are not hitting they need to not take somany.

As for Wilks that was the same play were he dribble around for 19 seconds and none moved so he had to try and make a play.
 
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So now Z might be out tonight with his knee acting up. Gooden is most likely out again tonight as well. Both didn't practice yesterday. At least that would leave Brown no choice but to give Wild Thing a lot of minutes. The biggest problem if Gooden and Z are out is that Marshall is the only big man left who can score. Varejao and Henderson are ok around the basket when they get a good pass, but neither is able to create their own offense like Gooden and Z. At least the Nuggets have big man problems of their own so maybe a lineup of Snow, Jones, Jackson, James, and Varejao would work when Marshall needs to get rest. Hopefully this will help Brown see that good things happen when Varejao is on the court.
 
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exhawg said:
So now Z might be out tonight with his knee acting up. Gooden is most likely out again tonight as well. Both didn't practice yesterday. At least that would leave Brown no choice but to give Wild Thing a lot of minutes. The biggest problem if Gooden and Z are out is that Marshall is the only big man left who can score. Varejao and Henderson are ok around the basket when they get a good pass, but neither is able to create their own offense like Gooden and Z. At least the Nuggets have big man problems of their own so maybe a lineup of Snow, Jones, Jackson, James, and Varejao would work when Marshall needs to get rest. Hopefully this will help Brown see that good things happen when Varejao is on the court.
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Well we are going to need a big nite from Jackson, LBJ, and Marshall.

At least Gooden will only be out this game and maybe one more and could be back the next game.

Lebron might need 80 for a win tonite.:biggrin:
 
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