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StadiumDorm said:
This was the anonymous ding I recieved for my comment that Damon Jones should not have been booed by his own fans. Please don't be afraid to engage this discussion with me on the thread rather than anonymously somewhere else.

You don't boo your own players for two reasons, and neither of them has to do with whether the player "deserves" it because he's getting paid: 1) It has no positive effect on how the player is playing, especially if that player is shooting as poorly as DJones lately. 2) It shows to free agents out there and to one King Lebron James (who is friends with DJones) that the City of Cleveland is only behind their players when they are winning, but are quick to turn their back.

If you're a real fan, you don't boo your team's players. If you're a bandwagon, fairweather fan, you do. It's that simple. It's more egregious if you're booing an amateur such as a Bellisari or Troy Smith, but it's also ridiculous if they're a pro player for your team (unless, of course, we're talking about Terrell Owens or Ron Artest.)
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I totally agree with this post.

I just don't understand the hot and cold spells this team goes through. At this point none one the team is hitting 3's or for that fact knocking down shots. It seems like they are feeling sorry for themselves. The problem I had with last nites game was the fourth quarter when they need to play their best they only put up 12 pts. Lebron could of at least taken the ball to the whole and got to the line or something.
 
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1/12/06

Cavaliers hit road seeking victories

Without Hughes, it's time to test mettle

By Tom Reed

Beacon Journal sportswriter

<!-- begin body-content -->CLEVELAND - The Cavaliers have played the fewest road games in the NBA.
That statistic is about to drastically change. And if things go poorly, so too will the fortunes of the team.
The Cavs play eight of their next nine games away from Quicken Loans Arena, including a six-game West Coast swing beginning tonight against the Los Angeles Lakers.
It's a trip that will test the club's mettle and help define whether the Cavs, minus Larry Hughes, are an Eastern Conference contender.
``The importance of the road trip is the simple fact we need to get better on the road,'' said Cavs coach Mike Brown, whose team is 6-7 away from home.
``We need to know how to win on the road so that if we are fortunate enough to get into the postseason we will be prepared to win and know what it takes to win. Playing on the road is the toughest thing you can do.''
Except, maybe, beat the New York Knicks.
The Cavs had hoped to vault into their longest road trip of the season with a home win against the Knicks, the conference bottom-feeder that has bedeviled them the past two seasons.
Instead, the Knicks rallied for a 92-84 win in a game in which the Cavs were guilty of settling for 3-point shots and relying too much on LeBron James.
``This was supposed to be what I like to call our Geico game -- an insurance win before heading on the road,'' forward Drew Gooden said of the loss to the Knicks. ``We are going to have to pick it up if we want to win out West.''
After facing the Lakers, the Cavs travel to the Phoenix Suns, Portland Trail Blazers, Denver Nuggets and Golden State Warriors before returning home for one game to meet the Indiana Pacers on Jan. 24.
The team has just five more games outside the Eastern Time Zone following this pivotal stretch.
The Cavs (20-12) hold the conference's fourth spot, but the Milwaukee Bucks and Pacers are within two games in the loss column.
``We're going to have to find a way to bring the same intensity on the road that we normally bring at home,'' Ira Newble said. ``That starts with defense.''
True enough, but the Cavs also must adjust offensively to the loss of Hughes, out for at least six more weeks with a finger injury. The team misses his ability to penetrate and distribute.
The Cavs were 6-of-28 from behind the 3-point arc against the Knicks. Brown pointed out the Cavs took eight fewer free throws than 3-point shots. That's a dangerous ratio, especially on the road.
The Cavs are 2-2 without Hughes.
``Losing Larry is definitely going to hurt us,'' Newble said. ``Everyone needs to step it up.''
And, perhaps, take a step or two closer to the hoop. The Cavs are 20-of-81 from behind the 3-point line in the past three games. Nobody is struggling more than Damon Jones (6-of-37 in the past seven games).
Donyell Marshall concedes the Cavs need to attack the basket, but he said they cannot totally change their identity.
``We are a drive-and-kick team, that's what we do,'' Marshall said. ``We were getting open threes, open shots. If we hit half those shots, there wouldn't be questions about settling for jump shots.''
Stop the press
Fans might not think Jones' shooting woes are humorous, but he made light of it anyway Tuesday by delivering a ``keynote address'' to reporters. ``This is only going to happen once, it will not happen again: I'm officially in a slump,'' Jones said.
He added the current slump is not nearly as hazardous to his health as one from a season ago when he played with the Miami Heat and Shaquille O'Neal.
``I don't have a 7-foot, 300-pound guy on my (butt) telling me if I don't hit a shot he's going to send me to Siberia,'' Jones said.
Wild Thing return?
There's a good chance Anderson Varejao will make his season debut tonight against the Lakers at the Staples Center. Varejao, out all year after offseason shoulder surgery, has been cleared for practice for the last week and a half and is ready. Brown said before the team left the final decision will be made after this morning's shootaround.
``We'll talk about it on the flight and tomorrow morning,'' Brown said. ``He probably would be cleared to play. It is a discussion we'll have on the flight out.''
Guarding Kobe
The Cavs face a serious defensive challenge tonight with the Lakers' Kobe Bryant, who started last night's game in Portland averaging 47 points over his past four games.
``He's the best player in our league by far,'' LeBron James said. ``You can't stop him. We've got to try to slow down the other guys.''
The real trouble is, without Hughes, the Cavs have bad match-up options on Bryant. It appears James will start the game guarding Lamar Odom, but will guard Bryant as well. The Cavs will likely start with Eric Snow on Bryant and also use Ira Newble on him off the bench.
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C'mon LeBron, Kobe the best player in the league, by far? You can't believe that!!!!

LeBron could score 45 a night if he shot 32 times.

Kobe was held to 41 last night on 13-29 shooting

During his 45 + streak (4 games) he scored 45,48,50 and 45. Impressive..............well his shooting:
14-32
17-41
19-29
13-37

One very good shooting night, one not very well and two horrible.

Kobe is a gun. In those games, he took nearly as many shots as the other
4 starters combined.
 
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Brutus1 said:
C'mon LeBron, Kobe the best player in the league, by far? You can't believe that!!!!

LeBron could score 45 a night if he shot 32 times.

Kobe was held to 41 last night on 13-29 shooting

During his 45 + streak (4 games) he scored 45,48,50 and 45. Impressive..............well his shooting:
14-32
17-41
19-29
13-37

One very good shooting night, one not very well and two horrible.

Kobe is a gun. In those games, he took nearly as many shots as the other
4 starters combined.
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I know he's not the most popular guy in the world, but I think Kobe's the best in the league (not by far). It's not just that he seems to be able to score at will. He is the best on-ball defender in the league.

The Cavs will need to get the ball inside to Z and Gooden tonite to win. It's that simple. No one on the Lakers should be able to stop Z.
 
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Brutus1 said:
C'mon LeBron, Kobe the best player in the league, by far? You can't believe that!!!!

LeBron could score 45 a night if he shot 32 times.

Kobe was held to 41 last night on 13-29 shooting

During his 45 + streak (4 games) he scored 45,48,50 and 45. Impressive..............well his shooting:
14-32
17-41
19-29
13-37

One very good shooting night, one not very well and two horrible.

Kobe is a gun. In those games, he took nearly as many shots as the other
4 starters combined.
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I would like to see the number of Lakers fans that would trade Kobe for Lebron compared to the number of Cavs fans that would do the same.
 
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Here are the stats from Kobe's first 3 years and Lebrons first 3 years.

<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr class="yspsctbg" align="center"><td colspan="4" class="ysptblhdr" align="left" height="18">Career</td> <td rowspan="13" class="yspwhitebg" nowrap="nowrap" width="1"><spacer type="block" height="1" width="1"></td><td colspan="4" class="ysptblhdr">FG</td><td rowspan="13" class="yspwhitebg" nowrap="nowrap" width="1"><spacer type="block" height="1" width="1"></td><td colspan="4" class="ysptblhdr">3PT</td><td rowspan="13" class="yspwhitebg" nowrap="nowrap" width="1"><spacer type="block" height="1" width="1"></td><td colspan="4" class="ysptblhdr">FT</td><td rowspan="13" class="yspwhitebg" nowrap="nowrap" width="1"><spacer type="block" height="1" width="1"></td><td colspan="4" class="ysptblhdr">Rebounds</td><td rowspan="13" class="yspwhitebg" nowrap="nowrap" width="1"><spacer type="block" height="1" width="1"></td><td colspan="7" class="ysptblhdr">Misc</td> </tr> <tr class="ysptblthbody1" align="right" height="18"> <td class="yspdetailttl" align="left"> Year</td> <td class="yspdetailttl" align="left">Team</td> <td class="yspdetailttl">G</td> <td class="yspdetailttl">Min </td> <td class="yspdetailttl ppg">M</td><td class="yspdetailttl ppg">A</td><td class="yspdetailttl ppg">Pct</td><td> </td><td class="yspdetailttl ppg">M</td><td class="yspdetailttl ppg">A</td><td class="yspdetailttl ppg">Pct</td><td> </td><td class="yspdetailttl ppg">M</td><td class="yspdetailttl ppg">A</td><td class="yspdetailttl ppg">Pct</td><td> </td><td class="yspdetailttl ppg">Off</td><td class="yspdetailttl ppg">Def</td><td class="yspdetailttl ppg">Tot</td><td> </td><td class="yspdetailttl ppg">Ast</td><td class="yspdetailttl ppg">TO</td><td class="yspdetailttl ppg">Stl</td><td class="yspdetailttl ppg">Blk</td><td class="yspdetailttl ppg">PF</td><td class="yspdetailttl ppg">PPG</td><td> </td> </tr> <tr class="ysprow1" align="right" height="16"><td class="yspscores" align="left"> 1996-97</td><td class="yspscores" align="left">LAL</td><td class="yspscores">71</td><td class="yspscores">15.5 </td><td class="yspscores">2.5</td><td class="yspscores">5.9</td><td class="yspscores">41.7</td><td> </td><td class="yspscores">0.7</td><td class="yspscores">1.9</td><td class="yspscores">37.5</td><td> </td><td class="yspscores">1.9</td><td class="yspscores">2.3</td><td class="yspscores">81.9</td><td> </td><td class="yspscores">0.7</td><td class="yspscores">1.2</td><td class="yspscores">1.9</td><td> </td><td class="yspscores">1.3</td><td class="yspscores">1.6</td><td class="yspscores">0.7</td><td class="yspscores">0.3</td><td class="yspscores">1.4</td><td class="yspscores">7.6</td><td> </td></tr> <tr class="ysprow2" align="right" height="16"><td class="yspscores" align="left"> 1997-98</td><td class="yspscores" align="left">LAL</td><td class="yspscores">79</td><td class="yspscores">26.0 </td><td class="yspscores">5.0</td><td class="yspscores">11.6</td><td class="yspscores">42.8</td><td> </td><td class="yspscores">1.0</td><td class="yspscores">2.8</td><td class="yspscores">34.1</td><td> </td><td class="yspscores">4.6</td><td class="yspscores">5.8</td><td class="yspscores">79.4</td><td> </td><td class="yspscores">1.0</td><td class="yspscores">2.1</td><td class="yspscores">3.1</td><td> </td><td class="yspscores">2.5</td><td class="yspscores">2.0</td><td class="yspscores">0.9</td><td class="yspscores">0.5</td><td class="yspscores">2.3</td><td class="yspscores">15.4</td><td> </td></tr> <tr class="ysprow1" align="right" height="16"><td class="yspscores" align="left"> 1998-99</td><td class="yspscores" align="left">LAL</td><td class="yspscores">50</td><td class="yspscores">37.9 </td><td class="yspscores">7.2</td><td class="yspscores">15.6</td><td class="yspscores">46.5</td><td> </td><td class="yspscores">0.5</td><td class="yspscores">2.0</td><td class="yspscores">26.7</td><td> </td><td class="yspscores">4.9</td><td class="yspscores">5.8</td><td class="yspscores">83.9</td><td> </td><td class="yspscores">1.1</td><td class="yspscores">4.2</td><td class="yspscores">5.3</td><td> </td><td class="yspscores">3.8</td><td class="yspscores">3.1</td><td class="yspscores">1.4</td><td class="yspscores">1.0</td><td class="yspscores">3.1</td><td class="yspscores">19.9</td><td> </td></tr></tbody></table>

<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr class="yspsctbg" align="center"><td colspan="4" class="ysptblhdr" align="left" height="18"> Career</td> <td rowspan="6" class="yspwhitebg" nowrap="nowrap" width="1"><spacer type="block" height="1" width="1"></td><td colspan="4" class="ysptblhdr">FG</td><td rowspan="6" class="yspwhitebg" nowrap="nowrap" width="1"><spacer type="block" height="1" width="1"></td><td colspan="4" class="ysptblhdr">3PT</td><td rowspan="6" class="yspwhitebg" nowrap="nowrap" width="1"><spacer type="block" height="1" width="1"></td><td colspan="4" class="ysptblhdr">FT</td><td rowspan="6" class="yspwhitebg" nowrap="nowrap" width="1"><spacer type="block" height="1" width="1"></td><td colspan="4" class="ysptblhdr">Rebounds</td><td rowspan="6" class="yspwhitebg" nowrap="nowrap" width="1"><spacer type="block" height="1" width="1"></td><td colspan="7" class="ysptblhdr">Misc</td> </tr> <tr class="ysptblthbody1" align="right" height="18"> <td class="yspdetailttl" align="left"> Year</td> <td class="yspdetailttl" align="left">Team</td> <td class="yspdetailttl">G</td> <td class="yspdetailttl">Min </td> <td class="yspdetailttl ppg">M</td><td class="yspdetailttl ppg">A</td><td class="yspdetailttl ppg">Pct</td><td> </td><td class="yspdetailttl ppg">M</td><td class="yspdetailttl ppg">A</td><td class="yspdetailttl ppg">Pct</td><td> </td><td class="yspdetailttl ppg">M</td><td class="yspdetailttl ppg">A</td><td class="yspdetailttl ppg">Pct</td><td> </td><td class="yspdetailttl ppg">Off</td><td class="yspdetailttl ppg">Def</td><td class="yspdetailttl ppg">Tot</td><td> </td><td class="yspdetailttl ppg">Ast</td><td class="yspdetailttl ppg">TO</td><td class="yspdetailttl ppg">Stl</td><td class="yspdetailttl ppg">Blk</td><td class="yspdetailttl ppg">PF</td><td class="yspdetailttl ppg">PPG</td><td> </td> </tr> <tr class="ysprow1" align="right" height="16"><td class="yspscores" align="left"> 2003-04</td><td class="yspscores" align="left">CLE</td><td class="yspscores">79</td><td class="yspscores">39.5 </td><td class="yspscores">7.9</td><td class="yspscores">18.9</td><td class="yspscores">41.7</td><td> </td><td class="yspscores">0.8</td><td class="yspscores">2.8</td><td class="yspscores">29.0</td><td> </td><td class="yspscores">4.4</td><td class="yspscores">5.8</td><td class="yspscores">75.4</td><td> </td><td class="yspscores">1.3</td><td class="yspscores">4.2</td><td class="yspscores">5.5</td><td> </td><td class="yspscores">5.9</td><td class="yspscores">3.5</td><td class="yspscores">1.7</td><td class="yspscores">0.7</td><td class="yspscores">1.9</td><td class="yspscores">20.9</td><td> </td></tr> <tr class="ysprow2" align="right" height="16"><td class="yspscores" align="left"> 2004-05</td><td class="yspscores" align="left">CLE</td><td class="yspscores">80</td><td class="yspscores">42.4 </td><td class="yspscores">9.9</td><td class="yspscores">21.1</td><td class="yspscores">47.2</td><td> </td><td class="yspscores">1.4</td><td class="yspscores">3.9</td><td class="yspscores">35.1</td><td> </td><td class="yspscores">6.0</td><td class="yspscores">8.0</td><td class="yspscores">75.0</td><td> </td><td class="yspscores">1.4</td><td class="yspscores">6.0</td><td class="yspscores">7.4</td><td> </td><td class="yspscores">7.2</td><td class="yspscores">3.3</td><td class="yspscores">2.2</td><td class="yspscores">0.7</td><td class="yspscores">1.8</td><td class="yspscores">27.2</td><td> </td></tr> <tr class="ysprow1" align="right" height="16"><td class="yspscores" align="left"> 2005-06</td><td class="yspscores" align="left">CLE</td><td class="yspscores">32</td><td class="yspscores">42.0 </td><td class="yspscores">10.8</td><td class="yspscores">21.6</td><td class="yspscores">50.1</td><td> </td><td class="yspscores">1.6</td><td class="yspscores">4.7</td><td class="yspscores">33.8</td><td> </td><td class="yspscores">7.5</td><td class="yspscores">9.9</td><td class="yspscores">75.7</td><td> </td><td class="yspscores">0.8</td><td class="yspscores">5.7</td><td class="yspscores">6.5</td><td> </td><td class="yspscores">5.8</td><td class="yspscores">3.3</td><td class="yspscores">1.7</td><td class="yspscores">0.9</td><td class="yspscores">2.3</td><td class="yspscores">30.8</td><td> </td></tr></tbody></table>
 
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exhawg said:
Here are the stats from Kobe's first 3 years and Lebrons first 3 years.

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=yspsctbg align=middle><TD class=ysptblhdr align=left colSpan=4 height=18>Career</TD><TD class=yspwhitebg noWrap width=1 rowSpan=13><SPACER height="1" width="1" type="block"></TD><TD class=ysptblhdr colSpan=4>FG</TD><TD class=yspwhitebg noWrap width=1 rowSpan=13><SPACER height="1" width="1" type="block"></TD><TD class=ysptblhdr colSpan=4>3PT</TD><TD class=yspwhitebg noWrap width=1 rowSpan=13><SPACER height="1" width="1" type="block"></TD><TD class=ysptblhdr colSpan=4>FT</TD><TD class=yspwhitebg noWrap width=1 rowSpan=13><SPACER height="1" width="1" type="block"></TD><TD class=ysptblhdr colSpan=4>Rebounds</TD><TD class=yspwhitebg noWrap width=1 rowSpan=13><SPACER height="1" width="1" type="block"></TD><TD class=ysptblhdr colSpan=7>Misc</TD></TR><TR class=ysptblthbody1 align=right height=18><TD class=yspdetailttl align=left>Year</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl align=left>Team</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>G</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>Min </TD><TD class="yspdetailttl ppg">M</TD><TD class="yspdetailttl ppg">A</TD><TD class="yspdetailttl ppg">Pct</TD><TD></TD><TD class="yspdetailttl ppg">M</TD><TD class="yspdetailttl ppg">A</TD><TD class="yspdetailttl ppg">Pct</TD><TD></TD><TD class="yspdetailttl ppg">M</TD><TD class="yspdetailttl ppg">A</TD><TD class="yspdetailttl ppg">Pct</TD><TD></TD><TD class="yspdetailttl ppg">Off</TD><TD class="yspdetailttl ppg">Def</TD><TD class="yspdetailttl ppg">Tot</TD><TD></TD><TD class="yspdetailttl ppg">Ast</TD><TD class="yspdetailttl ppg">TO</TD><TD class="yspdetailttl ppg">Stl</TD><TD class="yspdetailttl ppg">Blk</TD><TD class="yspdetailttl ppg">PF</TD><TD class="yspdetailttl ppg">PPG</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right height=16><TD class=yspscores align=left>1996-97</TD><TD class=yspscores align=left>LAL</TD><TD class=yspscores>71</TD><TD class=yspscores>15.5 </TD><TD class=yspscores>2.5</TD><TD class=yspscores>5.9</TD><TD class=yspscores>41.7</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>0.7</TD><TD class=yspscores>1.9</TD><TD class=yspscores>37.5</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>1.9</TD><TD class=yspscores>2.3</TD><TD class=yspscores>81.9</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>0.7</TD><TD class=yspscores>1.2</TD><TD class=yspscores>1.9</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>1.3</TD><TD class=yspscores>1.6</TD><TD class=yspscores>0.7</TD><TD class=yspscores>0.3</TD><TD class=yspscores>1.4</TD><TD class=yspscores>7.6</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right height=16><TD class=yspscores align=left>1997-98</TD><TD class=yspscores align=left>LAL</TD><TD class=yspscores>79</TD><TD class=yspscores>26.0 </TD><TD class=yspscores>5.0</TD><TD class=yspscores>11.6</TD><TD class=yspscores>42.8</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>1.0</TD><TD class=yspscores>2.8</TD><TD class=yspscores>34.1</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>4.6</TD><TD class=yspscores>5.8</TD><TD class=yspscores>79.4</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>1.0</TD><TD class=yspscores>2.1</TD><TD class=yspscores>3.1</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>2.5</TD><TD class=yspscores>2.0</TD><TD class=yspscores>0.9</TD><TD class=yspscores>0.5</TD><TD class=yspscores>2.3</TD><TD class=yspscores>15.4</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right height=16><TD class=yspscores align=left>1998-99</TD><TD class=yspscores align=left>LAL</TD><TD class=yspscores>50</TD><TD class=yspscores>37.9 </TD><TD class=yspscores>7.2</TD><TD class=yspscores>15.6</TD><TD class=yspscores>46.5</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>0.5</TD><TD class=yspscores>2.0</TD><TD class=yspscores>26.7</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>4.9</TD><TD class=yspscores>5.8</TD><TD class=yspscores>83.9</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>1.1</TD><TD class=yspscores>4.2</TD><TD class=yspscores>5.3</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>3.8</TD><TD class=yspscores>3.1</TD><TD class=yspscores>1.4</TD><TD class=yspscores>1.0</TD><TD class=yspscores>3.1</TD><TD class=yspscores>19.9</TD><TD></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=yspsctbg align=middle><TD class=ysptblhdr align=left colSpan=4 height=18>Career</TD><TD class=yspwhitebg noWrap width=1 rowSpan=6><SPACER height="1" width="1" type="block"></TD><TD class=ysptblhdr colSpan=4>FG</TD><TD class=yspwhitebg noWrap width=1 rowSpan=6><SPACER height="1" width="1" type="block"></TD><TD class=ysptblhdr colSpan=4>3PT</TD><TD class=yspwhitebg noWrap width=1 rowSpan=6><SPACER height="1" width="1" type="block"></TD><TD class=ysptblhdr colSpan=4>FT</TD><TD class=yspwhitebg noWrap width=1 rowSpan=6><SPACER height="1" width="1" type="block"></TD><TD class=ysptblhdr colSpan=4>Rebounds</TD><TD class=yspwhitebg noWrap width=1 rowSpan=6><SPACER height="1" width="1" type="block"></TD><TD class=ysptblhdr colSpan=7>Misc</TD></TR><TR class=ysptblthbody1 align=right height=18><TD class=yspdetailttl align=left>Year</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl align=left>Team</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>G</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>Min </TD><TD class="yspdetailttl ppg">M</TD><TD class="yspdetailttl ppg">A</TD><TD class="yspdetailttl ppg">Pct</TD><TD></TD><TD class="yspdetailttl ppg">M</TD><TD class="yspdetailttl ppg">A</TD><TD class="yspdetailttl ppg">Pct</TD><TD></TD><TD class="yspdetailttl ppg">M</TD><TD class="yspdetailttl ppg">A</TD><TD class="yspdetailttl ppg">Pct</TD><TD></TD><TD class="yspdetailttl ppg">Off</TD><TD class="yspdetailttl ppg">Def</TD><TD class="yspdetailttl ppg">Tot</TD><TD></TD><TD class="yspdetailttl ppg">Ast</TD><TD class="yspdetailttl ppg">TO</TD><TD class="yspdetailttl ppg">Stl</TD><TD class="yspdetailttl ppg">Blk</TD><TD class="yspdetailttl ppg">PF</TD><TD class="yspdetailttl ppg">PPG</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right height=16><TD class=yspscores align=left>2003-04</TD><TD class=yspscores align=left>CLE</TD><TD class=yspscores>79</TD><TD class=yspscores>39.5 </TD><TD class=yspscores>7.9</TD><TD class=yspscores>18.9</TD><TD class=yspscores>41.7</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>0.8</TD><TD class=yspscores>2.8</TD><TD class=yspscores>29.0</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>4.4</TD><TD class=yspscores>5.8</TD><TD class=yspscores>75.4</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>1.3</TD><TD class=yspscores>4.2</TD><TD class=yspscores>5.5</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>5.9</TD><TD class=yspscores>3.5</TD><TD class=yspscores>1.7</TD><TD class=yspscores>0.7</TD><TD class=yspscores>1.9</TD><TD class=yspscores>20.9</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right height=16><TD class=yspscores align=left>2004-05</TD><TD class=yspscores align=left>CLE</TD><TD class=yspscores>80</TD><TD class=yspscores>42.4 </TD><TD class=yspscores>9.9</TD><TD class=yspscores>21.1</TD><TD class=yspscores>47.2</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>1.4</TD><TD class=yspscores>3.9</TD><TD class=yspscores>35.1</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>6.0</TD><TD class=yspscores>8.0</TD><TD class=yspscores>75.0</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>1.4</TD><TD class=yspscores>6.0</TD><TD class=yspscores>7.4</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>7.2</TD><TD class=yspscores>3.3</TD><TD class=yspscores>2.2</TD><TD class=yspscores>0.7</TD><TD class=yspscores>1.8</TD><TD class=yspscores>27.2</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right height=16><TD class=yspscores align=left>2005-06</TD><TD class=yspscores align=left>CLE</TD><TD class=yspscores>32</TD><TD class=yspscores>42.0 </TD><TD class=yspscores>10.8</TD><TD class=yspscores>21.6</TD><TD class=yspscores>50.1</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>1.6</TD><TD class=yspscores>4.7</TD><TD class=yspscores>33.8</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>7.5</TD><TD class=yspscores>9.9</TD><TD class=yspscores>75.7</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>0.8</TD><TD class=yspscores>5.7</TD><TD class=yspscores>6.5</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>5.8</TD><TD class=yspscores>3.3</TD><TD class=yspscores>1.7</TD><TD class=yspscores>0.9</TD><TD class=yspscores>2.3</TD><TD class=yspscores>30.8</TD><TD></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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Well, if the question is "who would I take in their third season in the NBA?" - Lebron James

"Who would I take right now?" - Lebron James, because of his youth and team play.

"Who is the more complete player right now?" - Considering Defense is half the game of basketball, and I think Kobe's the best at it, Kobe.

"Will Lebron be a better player than Kobe is now in the future?" - Absolutely, and sooner rather than later.
 
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1/13/06

LAKERS 99 | CAVALIERS 98

Bryant carries Lakers to win over Cavaliers

Friday, January 13, 2006

John Nadel

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LOS ANGELES — Kobe Bryant scored six of his 27 points in the final 90 seconds including the go-ahead basket with 8.6 seconds left, and the Los Angeles Lakers beat LeBron James and the Cleveland Cavaliers 99-98 last night.

Bryant, who had scored at least 40 points in his previous five games, sprained his right wrist in the second quarter, and sat out the first five minutes of the fourth period before taking over in the late going.
X-rays of his wrist at halftime were negative.

Bryant’s long jumper near the end gave the Lakers a 99-97 lead. Bryant then fouled James with 5.2 seconds to play, and James made his first free throw before missing the second.

Cleveland’s Drew Gooden got the rebound, but after a timeout, James missed from about 18 feet away as the buzzer sounded.

Lamar Odom had 20 points, 10 rebounds and nine assists, Chris Mihm scored 15 points, and Smush Parker added 12 for the Lakers (19-17), who won for the fourth time in five games.

Zydrunas Ilgauskas scored 29 points and James had 28 points and nine assists for the Cavaliers (20-13), who lost for just the fourth time in 13 games.

Gooden finished with 15 points and 11 rebounds and Luke Jackson added 11 points.

James’ streak of getting at least 30 points, seven rebounds and five assists was snapped at seven games. He had only two rebounds. Oscar Robertson and Wilt Chamberlain are the only other players to have accomplished that feat.

Neither team led by more than three points after Jackson made two straight three-pointers to put the Cavaliers on top 86-85 with 4:43 remaining.
A basket by James put the Cavaliers ahead 61-54, matching the largest lead of the game for either team. Bryant had only 11 points before scoring six in the last 2:10 of the third quarter, sparking an 8-3 run that gave the Lakers a 68-67 lead.
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God I love staying up til 1am to watch a great game. And that was a great game even though we lost.

It points out a few things though. LeBron needs to learn how to finish a game. The next time LeBron wins a game on the last shot of the game will be his first. He really needs to get a "killer" instinct. Kobe put a daggar through our heart last night. Really his last shot was unbelievable. LeBron is in his face, Z has a hand up and Kobe still sticks the jumper. Now that is what LeBron needs to learn to do. Besides Free Throws :smash:

But on a brighter note... How bout the play of Luke last night? That is why we drafted him... play with energy off the bench and knock down the open threes. And How about the 30 second season debut of sideshow Andy? Wish he played more but maybe he looked really rusty in those 30 seconds and Brown decided that last night was too important to live with his mistakes until he shakes off the rust.
 
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It was a pretty good game for a loss.

My only 2 questions concerning LBJ are his shot selection gets bad at times. His attempt at the game winner was tough because 2 guys were draped all over him. He didn't have the time to pass because he waits until the very last minute to drive, which leaves no time to pass if needed.The second thing is his ft shooting. He should be a mid 80,s shooter from the stripe. With his overall shooting improvement, I'm sure it will be no time before he's a 85% ft shooter.

Great game by Luke Jackson. He hit 3 big 3's in the 4th to keep the team in the game. He had nice looks on all of his 3's. He'll be a great shooter when he realizes he's not an off the dribble shooter (yet). If he gets open and gets a good look at the basket, he's really going to help the team.

Damon Jones shall now be known as Casper. He's invisible as a starter.

Z, Gooden and Snow all played well.

Lebron and Kobe guarded each other. Lebron did a pretty good job of trying to stay with him. Kobe shot 9-21 so Lebron did his part.

The only reason they lost the game was because of their ft shooting. If you shoot 60% from the stripe while your opponent shoots 90%, you're going to lose allot of the close ones.

It was a good game to watch.

I was surprised how much bigger Lebron looked next to Kobe.

Piney beat me to it.
 
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