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C Byron 'B.J.' Mullens (Levanga Hokkaido Sapporo - Japan)

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jimotis4heisman;1438972; said:
what is his dream?
what would a guy "working at battelle" make over the next 3 years in contractually obligated money? 5 year potential? 10 year potential, lifetime?
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I don't know. I assume it's not to get a college degree to obtain work in the field of his degree, or he wouldn't be leaving. If you have a college scholarship and get a job offer before you get your degree in that field, you can always return to college later on another colleges dime and obtain that degree. Once B.J. leaves for the NBA, he can't ever go back to college and work on his game. I'm not saying he's making the wrong decision. In fact, I don't really give a shit.
 
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I don't know.
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but it's safe to say it's not comparable.
If you have a college scholarship and get a job offer before you get your degree in that field, you can always return to college later on another colleges dime and obtain that degree.
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Except there is no degree in his field. There's just a work-study program.
Once B.J. leaves for the NBA, he can't ever go back to college and work on his game.
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But college isn't the only place to work on his game outside of the league.

This isn't daequan cook, who plays a position saturated with similar athletes. There aren't that many guys with the size and athleticism of BJ. He'll get extra chances on size alone.
 
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jwinslow;1438979; said:
This isn't daequan cook, who plays a position saturated with similar athletes. There aren't that many guys with the size and athleticism of BJ. He'll get extra chances on size alone.
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I'll say it again...I'm not arguing he should stay. I was pointing out a flaw in the logic about no one talking about a chem major leaving college for a multi-million dollar contract.

B.J. wants to leave? Peace out. Good luck.
 
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BUCKYLE said:
I don't know. I assume it's not to get a college degree to obtain work in the field of his degree, or he wouldn't be leaving. If you have a college scholarship and get a job offer before you get your degree in that field, you can always return to college later on another colleges dime and obtain that degree. Once B.J. leaves for the NBA, he can't ever go back to college and work on his game. I'm not saying he's making the wrong decision. In fact, I don't really give a shit.
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lets flip it.
buckyle come work for me for a year, ill pay your living expenses and a small stipen. ill teach you the trade. well lay block. me and you masons. you work for me a year. someone says hey ill pay you on a contract 3 years (lets say 3mish). what would you do?
 
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jimotis4heisman;1438989; said:
lets flip it.
buckyle come work for me for a year, ill pay your living expenses and a small stipen. ill teach you the trade. well lay block. me and you masons. you work for me a year. someone says hey ill pay you on a contract 3 years (lets say 3mish). what would you do?
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To be honest, if I'm trying to feed my family for the rest of my life through laying block, I'm going to stay where I know I'm going to be taught. If I don't think I'm being taught well where I'm at, maybe I take the contract. I may make good money for three years, but if they didn't hire me to teach me, they're not going to resign me after those three years, and I can never go back to the old company to learn...I'm pretty much fucked. Teach a man to fish and so forth.

But again, I don't care if he leaves. If he thinks that's what's best for him, then by all means, he should do that.
 
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BUCKYLE;1439010; said:
To be honest, if I'm trying to feed my family for the rest of my life through laying block, I'm going to stay where I know I'm going to be taught. If I don't think I'm being taught well where I'm at, maybe I take the contract. I may make good money for three years, but if they didn't hire me to teach me, they're not going to resign me after those three years, and I can never go back to the old company to learn...I'm pretty much [censored]ed. Teach a man to fish and so forth.

But again, I don't care if he leaves. If he thinks that's what's best for him, then by all means, he should do that.
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If those next 3 years could set up your family for life, you would go...just like the rest of us.
 
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BUCKYLE;1439010; said:
To be honest, if I'm trying to feed my family for the rest of my life through laying block, I'm going to stay where I know I'm going to be taught. If I don't think I'm being taught well where I'm at, maybe I take the contract. I may make good money for three years, but if they didn't hire me to teach me, they're not going to resign me after those three years, and I can never go back to the old company to learn...I'm pretty much fucked. Teach a man to fish and so forth.
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If BJ makes only a few million and his career ends in 3 years I think he'll be able to pay his own way to finish his degree, should he desire to do it.
 
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BILL LIVINGSTON
Mullens' departure from Ohio State is premature, but it's hardly unexpected, says Bill Livingston
by Bill Livingston/Plain Dealer Columnist
Friday March 27, 2009

CLEVELAND -- Hard as it is to endorse B.J. Mullens' defection at Ohio State, it is understandable. He comes from a background of urban pathology -- poverty, drugs, family instability. In his life off the basketball court, by escaping from that world, he is already a success.

On the court, there is no doubt he would benefit from another season in Columbus. Offensively, Mullens showed little range against Siena in the NCAA Tournament. Siena's Ryan Rossiter, 6-9, who looked like one of "The Wonder Years" kids after a growth spurt, took his lunch money on the boards. On Mullens' most impressive move, off an in-bounds play, he caught a lob three feet from the rim, extended his arms, and shoveled the ball downward into the basket, like a guy funneling loose change into the turnpike gate hopper. There is no defense for such a shot.

Because he is seven feet tall and can run, Mullens, the third seven-footer to leave Ohio State after his freshman year in the past three years, will be a first-round NBA draft choice. So were Greg Oden and Kosta Koufos before him.

Ironically, Mullens' future will be secure because NBA teams are very patient with big men. They know "bigs" take longer to mesh their competitive gears at the rocketing pace of NBA decision making. It is the same patience none of them gave coach Thad Matta. They, literally, can't afford to.
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Mullens' departure from Ohio State is premature, but it's hardly unexpected, says Bill Livingston - Cleveland Sports Articles, Analysis & Commentary by Bill Livingston - cleveland.com
 
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Best of luck to you BJ. I hope that you are able to surround yourself with some intelligent, trustworthy people. I like many others think that another year in college would have really helped with development, but then again who is to say that he wouldn't get injured and be screwed out of a big NBA contract.

I see a lot of people posting the "set for life after first contract" thing.....this is based on the assumption that
1. He does surround himself with financial advisors that are intelligent and trustworthy.
2. He doesn't get caught up in the lifestyle and blow that contract money (after the agents fee, taxes, etc.) too fast despite advisement.
I thought I once read a state about 60% (estimated) of NBA players are bankrupt within 5 years of retirement.

I see a rough couple of years ahead for BJ. I hope that he is allowed the opportunity to develop and that he is able to maintain his confidence through a couple of years of getting the hell beat out of him. Would have loved to see you back in the scarlet and gray, but those millions would be hard for me to pass up too. Good luck.
 
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My talking point has nothing to do with the money...Obviously it is a good decision in that realm...The kid could be set up for life...But the thing is, he is not saying, he is going to take care of himself, put money in the bank, and let it grow...He plans on taking care of family, probably other friends, buy him self big things, etc...If he falls to the second round, good luck with making big money...Everyone would do it, it makes sense if he sticks in the first round, and doesn't have to worry about injury next year...

My talking point is this...The kid is not mentally prepared for life in general. Now I don't know BJ personally, but I do know alot of people that do. His coment in the paper about people not understanding the rigors of college practice...I mean does he not think they are relentless in the NBA? Can I make it at my job if I don't work hard? Do you think GMs/Coaches in the NBA are not going to have these comments beside his name when they think about drafting him? Do you think they are not going to see him not listening to his college coach? If the kid was a hard worker, and understood more I would not be talking about this, but college is cushy...I figured you know he might say going to class sucks or something like that...But college you travel maybe once/week, and you are with you friends, you have 50,000 people on campus to meet, hang out with, practices are about 3 hours/day ocmbined wih film...You have quite a life...Obviously basketball is number 1, but there is still time for a life...In the NBA you are on the road, playing sometimes 5 times week, how often is he going to get to see his family that he is going to provide for? Start flying them to all games, then the money is going to go real fast...especially if it is 2nd round...The guy can't handle a college coach trying to light a fire under his ass...Go to NY, LA, any where were the fans are calling you a bust if ou don't produce after 2 months into the season...Look at Oden, he was ready for the NBA...yeah he got hurt, but many are calling bust, can't play with pain, etc...Could Mullens handle that? He is still a kid up there, and I don't think he is mentally ready...

Couple bad workouts and he falls to the second round...Then is it a good decision?

Is worst decision was not buying into what coach Matta and staff was selling to him all year...
 
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crazybuckfan40;1439711; said:
My talking point has nothing to do with the money...Obviously it is a good decision in that realm...The kid could be set up for life...But the thing is, he is not saying, he is going to take care of himself, put money in the bank, and let it grow...He plans on taking care of family, probably other friends, buy him self big things, etc...If he falls to the second round, good luck with making big money...Everyone would do it, it makes sense if he sticks in the first round, and doesn't have to worry about injury next year...

My talking point is this...The kid is not mentally prepared for life in general. Now I don't know BJ personally, but I do know alot of people that do. His coment in the paper about people not understanding the rigors of college practice...I mean does he not think they are relentless in the NBA? Can I make it at my job if I don't work hard? Do you think GMs/Coaches in the NBA are not going to have these comments beside his name when they think about drafting him? Do you think they are not going to see him not listening to his college coach? If the kid was a hard worker, and understood more I would not be talking about this, but college is cushy...I figured you know he might say going to class sucks or something like that...But college you travel maybe once/week, and you are with you friends, you have 50,000 people on campus to meet, hang out with, practices are about 3 hours/day ocmbined wih film...You have quite a life...Obviously basketball is number 1, but there is still time for a life...In the NBA you are on the road, playing sometimes 5 times week, how often is he going to get to see his family that he is going to provide for? Start flying them to all games, then the money is going to go real fast...especially if it is 2nd round...The guy can't handle a college coach trying to light a fire under his ass...Go to NY, LA, any where were the fans are calling you a bust if ou don't produce after 2 months into the season...Look at Oden, he was ready for the NBA...yeah he got hurt, but many are calling bust, can't play with pain, etc...Could Mullens handle that? He is still a kid up there, and I don't think he is mentally ready...

Couple bad workouts and he falls to the second round...Then is it a good decision?

Is worst decision was not buying into what coach Matta and staff was selling to him all year...
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Great post! Well said:bow:
 
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