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C Byron 'B.J.' Mullens (Levanga Hokkaido Sapporo - Japan)

crazybuckfan40;1439711; said:
My talking point has nothing to do with the money...Obviously it is a good decision in that realm...The kid could be set up for life...But the thing is, he is not saying, he is going to take care of himself, put money in the bank, and let it grow...He plans on taking care of family, probably other friends, buy him self big things, etc...If he falls to the second round, good luck with making big money...Everyone would do it, it makes sense if he sticks in the first round, and doesn't have to worry about injury next year...

My talking point is this...The kid is not mentally prepared for life in general. Now I don't know BJ personally, but I do know alot of people that do. His coment in the paper about people not understanding the rigors of college practice...I mean does he not think they are relentless in the NBA? Can I make it at my job if I don't work hard? Do you think GMs/Coaches in the NBA are not going to have these comments beside his name when they think about drafting him? Do you think they are not going to see him not listening to his college coach? If the kid was a hard worker, and understood more I would not be talking about this, but college is cushy...I figured you know he might say going to class sucks or something like that...But college you travel maybe once/week, and you are with you friends, you have 50,000 people on campus to meet, hang out with, practices are about 3 hours/day ocmbined wih film...You have quite a life...Obviously basketball is number 1, but there is still time for a life...In the NBA you are on the road, playing sometimes 5 times week, how often is he going to get to see his family that he is going to provide for? Start flying them to all games, then the money is going to go real fast...especially if it is 2nd round...The guy can't handle a college coach trying to light a fire under his ass...Go to NY, LA, any where were the fans are calling you a bust if ou don't produce after 2 months into the season...Look at Oden, he was ready for the NBA...yeah he got hurt, but many are calling bust, can't play with pain, etc...Could Mullens handle that? He is still a kid up there, and I don't think he is mentally ready...

Couple bad workouts and he falls to the second round...Then is it a good decision?

Is worst decision was not buying into what coach Matta and staff was selling to him all year...

but he isn't falling to the second round. Bad workout and all. He is a first rounder.

Every year, its almost the same argument...why is Daquan coming out, why is Kosta coming out...they aren't ready, they won't get taken in the first. They can be so much better and develop their games in college.

These guys get TWICE as much development in the NBA riding pine, and they get paid doing it. There aren't NCAA restrictions on practice time in the NBA. BJ will work with specialists every day for hours working on his game, getting stronger, and will likely learn from the bench for a year. Maybe he provides a few minutes a night in depth. Hell, DeAndre Jordan has started double digit games this year.

The only downside, is basketball is a profession now, so you're not a kid anymore. Basketball is top priority, and they're paying you millions, so they expect you at the workout facility all the time, and especially for younger guys, its expected you're living in the gym.

BJ will learn real quick it isn't college anymore, but I hate the argument he won't develp because he's going to be buried on the bench. He'll become a better player because he is going to get worked out far beyond NCAA max limits. (not that you said he wouldn't CB40). I agree with your point on whether BJ is mentally ready or not.

If he isn't mentally ready, he's at least got his first round money, and by the time his second contrcat comes around, he's still a young guy, and some team will be willing to pay millions in hopes tapping into his talent.

One other point.....like Daquan Cook, I think BJ's game is better suited for the NBA. Daquan struggled at tOSU b/c the game is more restricted and good shots at the NBA level, get your ass put on the bench in college.

BJ is so athletic for a 7 footer, he should beable to feast on living around the hoop, where there is a 3 second violation for the defense. No more big defensive players, just camping out in the paint, making sure BJ catches lobs over their head. I'd imagine we will get accustomed to seeing BJ finishing a lot of dunks off of slashing guards. The spread court will help him a lot....
 
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MaxBuck;1439720; said:
You kind of lost credibility with this one. BJ is a lottery pick regardless of how his workouts go.
Maybe falling to the second round is a stretch, but I wouldn't be surprised in the least if he falls out of the lottery. I've seen mock drafts that have him going later than 14th, which obviously would make him not a lottery pick.
 
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MaxBuck;1439720; said:
You kind of lost credibility with this one. BJ is a lottery pick regardless of how his workouts go.

Your telling me I lost credibility???

How bout you tell that to the scouts and coaches I talked to over the weekend...

billmac91 said:
but he isn't falling to the second round. Bad workout and all. He is a first rounder.

Every year, its almost the same argument...why is Daquan coming out, why is Kosta coming out...they aren't ready, they won't get taken in the first. They can be so much better and develop their games in college.

I can say that I myself never said one time that KK or Cook would fall to the second round...We all knew or I think we knew they were not lottery picks like they could of been if they had come back another year, but most were saying in the area of where they went...

BJ on the other hand has also made comments and actions that are not things NBA franchises want to hear out of first round draft picks...

These guys get TWICE as much development in the NBA riding pine, and they get paid doing it. There aren't NCAA restrictions on practice time in the NBA. BJ will work with specialists every day for hours working on his game, getting stronger, and will likely learn from the bench for a year. Maybe he provides a few minutes a night in depth. Hell, DeAndre Jordan has started double digit games this year.

The only downside, is basketball is a profession now, so you're not a kid anymore. Basketball is top priority, and they're paying you millions, so they expect you at the workout facility all the time, and especially for younger guys, its expected you're living in the gym.

BJ will learn real quick it isn't college anymore, but I hate the argument he won't develp because he's going to be buried on the bench. He'll become a better player because he is going to get worked out far beyond NCAA max limits. (not that you said he wouldn't CB40). I agree with your point on whether BJ is mentally ready or not.

If he isn't mentally ready, he's at least got his first round money, and by the time his second contrcat comes around, he's still a young guy, and some team will be willing to pay millions in hopes tapping into his talent.

This is the point I was getting at...With he mental state...He is not ready, he is chasing money, and acting like the NBA is disney world...He couldn't handle the rigors of college bball...What the hell is he going to do in the NBA????????????


One other point.....like Daquan Cook, I think BJ's game is better suited for the NBA. Daquan struggled at tOSU b/c the game is more restricted and good shots at the NBA level, get your ass put on the bench in college.

BJ is so athletic for a 7 footer, he should beable to feast on living around the hoop, where there is a 3 second violation for the defense. No more big defensive players, just camping out in the paint, making sure BJ catches lobs over their head. I'd imagine we will get accustomed to seeing BJ finishing a lot of dunks off of slashing guards. The spread court will help him a lot....
The problem is he is not an offensive force by any stretch of the imagination...I mean imagine how many guys that are no bodies in the NBA guys like Chris Mihm, for example who at least were able to score the ball in college...Hibbert, the kid from Bradley, Javal McGee...Guys that I would kinda compare Mullens too...They scored at the college level...BJ didn't...He dunked the ball when open...He has a decent jumper that he never showcased this year, but when he did try and shoot he was never squared up...

Also he isn't going to be able to stop anyone on the defensive end...Jujuan Johnson scored 30 against us, and he was in there alot...The kid from Siena?

I am not saying he could not end up being a very productive player, but I just hope he gets his mental game turned around before he flails out due to his game not reaching its potential...

He has showed flashes, but whether it be in high scool, and now the college level, he could not go at a high level for a long time, and now he is going to go up against the best players in the world...Gonna need to be at a high level most of the time...
 
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Incredible that so many keystrokes have been wasted on predictions of this young man's future and opinions on whether he should declare for the NBA draft. He has declared, and his future will determine itself.

And yes, I've certainly contributed to the wasted keystrokes! :wink2:
 
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osugrad21;1439113; said:
If those next 3 years could set up your family for life, you would go...just like the rest of us.

Bingo. There isn't a degree out there that can pay instantly what an NBA contract will. Most on here have never walked a day in his shoes, who are we to judge? I say if he wants to move on, move on. Best of luck, we will find someone else to fill his scholarship. I certainly wish him the best, it sounds like he's had a rough go of things throughout life. Can't blame him one bit, especially in these rough financial times, for wanting to take care of his family. I just hope he can handle the adversity that will be thrown at him in the future, and that he doesn't waste the money that he will make. Young guys have a tendency to do that.
 
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B.J. Mullens (Ohio State)
There wasn't a bigger bust in the 2008 recruiting class than B.J. Mullens of Ohio State. Mullens, who was slated as a top five pick going into the season, failed to earn a starting spot with the Buckeyes and recorded double-digit rebounds just once. Although he's got a ton of natural ability Mullens has a lot to learn about the game of basketball and is an extremely raw player at this point. He needed at least another year of college like most of us need a mulligan on our brackets. Mullens will still go somewhere in the middle of the first round, but his decision to leave early could lead to him being the next Robert Swift.

http://www.hoopsworld.com/college/story.asp?story_id=12098
 
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MaxBuck;1439720; said:
You kind of lost credibility with this one. BJ is a lottery pick regardless of how his workouts go.


Disagree here as well. If his workouts are pathetic (hopefully not) then I don't think he will be a lottery pick. Potential only takes you so far and that is really all the BJ has going for him right now.
 
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osugrad21;1439113; said:
If those next 3 years could set up your family for life, you would go...just like the rest of us.

I see a lot of comments like this one, but I'm pretty skeptical that any amount of money made over a 3-year period would set up a family for life, especially at BJ's age and with limited education and experience with money. Leaving early sure helps a whole lot right now, but if his career suffers because he missed the chance to develop his game more at this level, nobody's getting set up for life. Getting that big 2nd NBA contract is about a lot more then desire/need for money, and I hope he shows more desire to succeed at the next level than he did at this one.
 
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I see a lot of comments like this one, but I'm pretty skeptical that any amount of money made over a 3-year period would set up a family for life, especially at BJ's age and with limited education and experience with money.
4 million dollars - 35% = 2.6 million... that's $130k per year for 20 years.

Chances are BJ will get a second contract on potential alone, when looking at the wealth of poor big men getting millions. Even if he only earns a million a year for 3 more years... that's another 20 years of $130k per.
 
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Jerry Seinfeld;1441816; said:
4 million dollars - 35% = 2.6 million... that's $130k per year for 20 years.

Chances are BJ will get a second contract on potential alone, when looking at the wealth of poor big men getting millions. Even if he only earns a million a year for 3 more years... that's another 20 years of $130k per.

Maybe so, that is if a 20-year-old millionaire who's supporting his family only spends $130K a year. The list of pro athletes who have blown much more, because they weren't ready to handle it or plan for their future, is a long one...
 
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Jerry Seinfeld;1441816; said:
4 million dollars - 35% = 2.6 million... that's $130k per year for 20 years.

Chances are BJ will get a second contract on potential alone, when looking at the wealth of poor big men getting millions. Even if he only earns a million a year for 3 more years... that's another 20 years of $130k per.

True, but the way the typical professional athlete blows through money, it can be gone very quickly.
 
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