Brian "Body Kount" Kelly (HC Louisiana State)

[TheIronColonel]

So what, NoD's offense is going to be like a cheetah driving a Lamborghini while high on meth-amphetamine? Ah, the infamous Charlie Sheen offense.




Thanks, I'll be here all week!

 

[ulukinatme]

I'll be waiting for the first few possessions when the offense can't find their rhythm, sputters out, and goes 4 and out...then all of this commerical junk will be will be brought up again

 

[cincibuck]

You'll see when/if he starts to sign the kids from Elder, St. X, Moeller, and the likes in Cincy area. Its a place that OSU hasn't really been tearing up the recruiting trail

Rudolph is the only major loss to ND I can think of in the past few years when OSU was interested in a Cincinnati kid.

Hate Coop all you want, but the man turned OSU recruiting in this area around following a horrible situation created by Earl Bruce. Since then OSU has stopped the flow of top talent from here to Michigan and Notre Dame.

Kelly will change that somewhat. He made real in-roads in Cincinnati by recruiting everyone's 2s and 3s, kids that ordinarily went to MAC schools and not UC.

 

[BB73]

Rudolph is the only major loss to ND I can think of in the past few years when OSU was interested in a Cincinnati kid.

Matt James had a tOSU offer last year and verballed to ND, but his life ended before he started college.

 

[cincibuck]

You would think they could just play better ball instead of trying to fix the game to their advantage. The whole long grass thing was disgusting when USC came to play at Notre Dame. It was obvious and embarrassing. If you need longer grass to cut down another teams strengths, that says volumes about Notre Dame's weaknesses.

Since when has the length of grass been standardized? OSU played some important games on a field where the grass was less than two weeks old and the sod ripped up in big clumps, some bigger than the divot I take with a 5 iron.

Field conditions are the same for both teams, e.g. you can't ask for short grass when you're on offense and long when you're on D and neither can the other guy.

 

[sepia5]

Since Kelly is a hot name for some soon-to-be-vacant coaching jobs, I thought that I'd bump this thread.

Here are the before and after records of the last four hot shot Big East coaches to take the step up to big boy conferences:

John L. Smith
41 - 21 (.661) in 5 years at Louisville
22 - 26 (.458) in 4 years at Michigan State

Bobby Petrino
41 - 9 (.820) in 4 years at Louisville
11 - 11 (.500) in 1+ years at Arkansas

Rich Rodriguez
60 - 26 (.698) in 7 years at West Virginia
8 - 15 (.348) in 1+ years at Michigan

Mark Dantonio
18 - 17 (.514) in 3 years at Cincinnati
22 - 15 (.595) in 2+ years at Michigan State

It seems like most of the Kelly talk around here (and elsewhere) is with regard to him taking over at Notre Dame or Michigan, should Weis or RichRod get the boot this offseason (or before). If I'm Kelly, and I have my choice of one program or the other right now, I'd definitely prefer Notre Dame. Both programs are obviously prestigious and extremely storied, but if someone were to take over at Michigan right now, they'd be faced with a baren defense and little more than an abundance of offensive skill players designed for the spread RichRod ran at West Virginia. In other words, it would take someone like Kelly a few years to even begin to get that program's roster where he'd probably like it. Notre Dame, on the other hand, has cupboards that are much more stocked, and the ingredients found therein are probably of the quality that Kelly would be looking for anyway.

If Kelly were to take the job at ND, I really don't think any of the other situations you've referenced above would be completely analogous. (1) The talent at Notre Dame right now is far superior to what Smith, Dantonio, Petrino and even Rich Rod inhereted at their respected schools. (2) While the talent level at Michigan wasn't horrible when RichRod took over, he (a) had to drastically alter the type of roster he had in order to do what he wanted to do, and (b) saw a mass exodus, for a variety of reasons, that I wouldn't expect Kelly to have to deal with. (3) only Michigan has the recruiting prowess that Kelly would enjoy at Notre Dame. (4) IMO, Notre Dame routinely has more cupcakes on their schedule than the aforementioned Big Ten and SEC programs.

So while your historical point is well taken, I would expect Kelly to have much more success in his first two seasons at Notre Dame than RichRod, Dantonio, Smith or Petrino enjoyed in their first two years. That said, I expected Weis to be more successful than he has been overall, and, although I thought RichRod would experience growing pains at scUM, I never expected it would be this bad.

FAIL.

 

[Jake]

Miss me yet?

 

[buxfan4life]

Has he officially blamed Ty Willingham yet?

 

[BB73]

CFN decided to discuss this question.

Basically, Fiutak says Kelly is responsible, Cirminiello says it's too early, and Zemek says that AD Swarbrick is the one really at fault since having a policy on hydraulic lifts should be the AD's job, not the head coach's.

CFN

Should Brian Kelly Be Fired?

Cont'd ...

 

[OH10]

(Michael Floyd) Reinstated by Brian Kelly. "Suspension" over. No games missed. Two times the legal limit; second alcohol offense at ND. But at least (as far as we know) he didn't get any free tattoos.

So I will say this for Tressel. He suspended guys for failed drug tests. He sat his starting quarterback for the final two games of the season (including Michigan) and the first half of a bowl game for a DUI. He didn't sit guys for getting free tattoos.

Just maybe (and I'm guessing here) he had a little more perspective than the media, coaches, universities and the NCAA.

 

[cbrian815]

I really didnt expect anything else from Kelly other than to win at all cost. The college game has turned into a win at all cost business.....but I honestly believe there are a lot of coaches that would not have reinstated him. I dont think Tressel would have considering these circumstances I would put Kelly in with Spurrier.....for reinstating his qb after about 6 horrible bouts of bad decisions. Its really sad honestly. If I were ND I would hang my head in shame and I can honestly say that as bad as the media hit us we never broke any laws. Player not be allowed selling their own stuff and kids getting DUI`s are just different.....but you probably wont see a word about this on espin......Go Bucks

 

[RB07OSU]

Reinstated by Brian Kelly. "Suspension" over. No games missed. Two times the legal limit; second alcohol offense at ND. But at least (as far as we know) he didn't get any free tattoos.

So I will say this for Tressel. He suspended guys for failed drug tests. He sat his starting quarterback for the final two games of the season (including Michigan) and the first half of a bowl game for a DUI. He didn't sit guys for getting free tattoos.

Just maybe (and I'm guessing here) he had a little more perspective than the media, coaches, universities and the NCAA.

Wow...excellent, excellent post. A great post if you will.

 

[BB73]

Reinstated by Brian Kelly. "Suspension" over. No games missed. Two times the legal limit; second alcohol offense at ND. But at least (as far as we know) he didn't get any free tattoos.

Yep, almost 2-and-a-half times the limit (.19 & .08). It's actually his third alcohol-related offense since joining the team - one of them was back in Minneapolis.

USAToday

In June, St. Joseph County Magistrate Brian Steinke gave Floyd a one-year jail sentence that was suspended as part of a plea agreement. He also said Floyd cannot drive for 90 days and when he does, he must have an ignition device installed on his vehicle for six months. The device will not allow the car to start if his blood-alcohol level is too high.

Floyd was fined $200 and ordered to attend a victim impact panel to hear from people whose family members were killed in drunken driving accidents.
It is Floyd's third brush with the law regarding alcohol.

He was cited for underage consumption of alcohol May 15, 2009, in his home state of Minnesota, and pleaded guilty through a hearing officer a month later.

Floyd also was cited for underage drinking in Minneapolis on Jan. 8, 2010. Floyd and Minnesota running back Shady Salamon, who were former high school teammates in St. Paul, were cited after police were called to a fight involving six to 10 people.

 

[BB73]

Here's an article on ND and Kelly from this past Sunday Chicago Tribune.

I read the whole thing - I didn't see any mention of Declan Sullivan's death in the tragic scissor lift fall, and I didn't see any mention of the young woman that committed suicide after accusing a still-unidentified ND football player of a sexual assault.

Have a couple students actually die due to things related to the football program - not worth mentioning as long as the coach stopped the losing streak to USC.

The article finishes up with a couple of ESPN guys saying that Kelly's the 'right guy' for ND.

Tribune

Kelly has all he needs to win with Irish

Administration finally providing necessary big-time resources

July 31, 2011 By Brian Hamilton, Chicago Tribune reporter
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On that practice field, Michael Floyd likely will cut and juke and snare passes when, in any other era in the history of school disciplinary matters, the All-America receiver simply wouldn't be around.

Another recruiting class will take nascent steps in its first training camp. Among them are players who made up only the sixth group of early-enrollee freshmen in school history. Among that group is an elite, prolific pass rusher who told one recruiting analyst he scored a 17 on his ACT.

There are the practice fields underfoot, a $2.5 million project that was finished in 2008. There is the imperial, 96,000-square-foot football complex that opened in 2005. There is a post-practice training table meal, a program that wasn't instituted, mind-bogglingly, until last season.

Perhaps at no point in history has there been greater cooperation across campus and more abundant resources proffered in the name of sustaining a multi-multimillion-dollar operation and winning football games. Now all Brian Kelly has to do is win them.

"He's in a very enviable situation," former Irish coach Bob Davie said. "Because we all had the same pressure to win. We just had to do it in a probably more difficult manner."

All falls into place

Kelly wasn't made available for comment for this story after multiple requests to Notre Dame. Athletic director Jack Swarbrick did not respond to interview requests.
That may be moot. The situation speaks for itself.

The disciplinary reach of the football coach extends further than it ever has; Kelly is receiving leeway from admissions when it comes to welcoming necessary pieces to campus; and there is now little in the way of facilities and resources separating Notre Dame from the peers with which it aspires to compete.
...

Notre Dame has made exceptions in admissions before. It has tweaked policies before. It has provided coaches with resources to win before. But cumulatively, across all areas, never has it offered more at one time to one coach than it currently offers to Kelly.

Notre Dame has decided it wants to win football games, and now all Kelly has to do is win them.

"You take Brian Kelly, his philosophical strategy, you take his work ethic, you take his proven history of winning, and now you give him the resources within the university and within academic support to do it?" Luginbill said. "It'll be 'Katy Bar the Door,' I'm telling you right now."

Said Herbstreit: "I think Brian Kelly is going to get Notre Dame back. I think he's the answer."

Right place.

Right time.

Right guy?

There's nothing to stop Brian Kelly.

Cont'd ...

 

[OH10]

"You can still be an outstanding academic institution and have high morals and give your coach a little bit of flexibility," ESPN analyst Kirk Herbstreit said. "If they're doing those things, I would say it's about time. ? The end result is going to be a more competitive team on the field."

This quote right here in a nutshell explains why Ohio State fans dislike Kirk Herbstreit because it reveals the utter hypocrisy that lies within.

As BB73 pointed out, you do not get to claim the moral high ground when you commit negligent homicide (yes, I think that fits); when you cover-up a sexual assault that probably contributed to the death of another young student; and when you call an offseason suspension of your borderline alcohol dependant wide receiver a form of punishment.

But no one in the media (and especially not Kirk Herbstreit or ESPN) will make any mention of it. You won't see Notre Dame grad George Dohrmann preparing a front-page expose on the sickening scandals that have had a real and potential impact on human lives.

Move along. Nothing to see here, except the hope for a return to glory. Wake up the Echos!