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Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

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Which Teams Should the Big Ten Add? (please limit to four selections)

  • Boston College

    Votes: 32 10.2%

  • Cincinnati

    Votes: 19 6.1%

  • Connecticut

    Votes: 6 1.9%

  • Duke

    Votes: 21 6.7%

  • Georgia Tech

    Votes: 55 17.6%

  • Kansas

    Votes: 46 14.7%

  • Maryland

    Votes: 67 21.4%

  • Missouri

    Votes: 90 28.8%

  • North Carolina

    Votes: 39 12.5%

  • Notre Dame

    Votes: 209 66.8%

  • Oklahoma

    Votes: 78 24.9%

  • Pittsburgh

    Votes: 45 14.4%

  • Rutgers

    Votes: 40 12.8%

  • Syracuse

    Votes: 18 5.8%

  • Texas

    Votes: 121 38.7%

  • Vanderbilt

    Votes: 15 4.8%

  • Virginia

    Votes: 47 15.0%

  • Virginia Tech

    Votes: 62 19.8%

  • Stay at 12 teams and don't expand

    Votes: 27 8.6%

  • Add some other school(s) not listed

    Votes: 25 8.0%
  • Total voters
    313
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Well, there's not much meat on a buckeye, or a wolverine nor a badger. Hawkeyes, lions, gophers, nor wildcats have much either. Hoosiers, spartans, and illini (indians) would constitute cannabalism and/or would fight back. Charlie cheeseburger hasn't battled for a meal in quite awhile, methinks. Nope, no ND to the Big10(11). Keep looking.

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jwinslow;1553791; said:
Their contract grows weaker by the year in comparison to the big ten's revenue from espn and the btn. If there was any way to bring nbc into the fold, then you'd really have something.
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Given that the Big 10 contract gets split 11 ways, whereas Notre Dame shares only with St. Mary's of the Spring how is that so?
 
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calibuck;1554350; said:
Well, there's not much meat on a buckeye, or a wolverine nor a badger. Hawkeyes, lions, gophers, nor wildcats have much either. Hoosiers, spartans, and illini (indians) would constitute cannabalism and/or would fight back. Charlie cheeseburger hasn't battled for a meal in quite awhile, methinks. Nope, no ND to the Big10(11). Keep looking.

:gobucks3::gobucks4::banger:
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Ord is the authority on this, but as I understand it the deal was done, the ND admin and faculty were fully behind the Irish were coming in. When word leaked out the students and the alums had a hissy fit ending the talks.
 
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cincibuck;1554358; said:
Ord is the authority on this, but as I understand it the deal was done, the ND admin and faculty were fully behind the Irish were coming in. When word leaked out the students and the alums had a hissy fit ending the talks.
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The Big Ten position was and still remains--no special treatment. ND can keep their NBC contract, but with full revenue sharing and no special treatment in bowl selections. This position has significantly hardened since the last go-around with the domers.

The faculty was definitely all for joining the Big Ten. They were literally salivating at the chance to align themselves with the CIC and bring their research/grad school profile up to Big Ten standards, not to mention taking a huge step towards getting an AAU invitation (they would have been the only Big Ten school not among the 62 members of the Association of American Universities). ND's faculty senate voted something along the lines of 34-1 in favor of joining.

The administration lived up to their usual weasel-like standard. They played both sides of the issue, ultimately did what was in the best interests of the football program, then held a press conference that was the epitome of holier-than-thou, hypocritical bullsh!t where they strongly insinuated that they were passing on the Big Ten for academic reasons--DESPITE THE FACT THAT THEY WERE OVERRULING THEIR OWN FACULTY ON THE MATTER!

Word is that their antics led to such bad blood in the Big Ten offices and among the Big Ten faculties that the only way ND ever gets in is if they come begging on their hands and knees while the Pope gives Jim DeLaney a rusty trombone.
 
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ORD_Buckeye;1555197; said:
Word is that their antics led to such bad blood in the Big Ten offices and among the Big Ten faculties that the only way ND ever gets in is if they come begging on their hands and knees while the Pope gives Jim DeLaney a rusty trombone.
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Stranger things have happened.




I think.
 
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Wisconsin Ad Barry Alvarez says Big Ten will amplify call for a 12th team - ESPN

Wisconsin athletic director Barry Alvarez says the Big Ten will soon make a more aggressive push toward adding a 12th member.
Speaking to Wisconsin's athletic board on Friday, Alvarez, the former longtime Badgers football coach, said the conference already has investigated possibilities for expansion "from all over the country." And though he places no timetable on the search, Alvarez thinks Delany will respond to a group of athletic directors and coaches who want expansion.

"I have a sense he is going to take this year to really be more aggressive about it," Alvarez told the board. "I just think everybody feels [expansion] is the direction to go, coaches and administrators."
Penn State football coach Joe Paterno has been the most vocal advocate of a 12th Big Ten team, and he has support from several of his fellow coaches.
A 12th team would allow the Big Ten to split into divisions and hold a conference championship game. The Big Ten typically ends its football season two weeks before the other BCS conferences, though an addition of a permanent bye week in 2010 will shrink the gap by a week.
"We're irrelevant for the last three weeks of the football season because we're not playing," Alvarez said Friday.
Paterno has stumped for expansion several times, but Delany told ESPN.com this spring that the league has no immediate plans to add a 12th team.
"There's not an obvious move," Delany said in May. "There might be to some coaches, including Coach Paterno, but it's not as obvious to the university presidents and to the athletic directors.
"There are a lot [of schools] that could take a lot away, but there aren't a lot that could bring so much to make the choice an easy one. You have to have a lot to make something go like this, and it's broader than really a championship game or a basketball tournament."
The Big Ten most recently expanded with Penn State, which began competing as a league member in football in 1993. The league has made runs at Notre Dame but hasn't had serious discussions for several years.
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You know what Barry - you have it all wrong.

Here is what the Big Ten (and parenthetically Penn State, and ND and certain Service Academies) should, advisedly do.

A - wait till Paterno goes to meet his maker, before which you cannot perform step B.

B - Let Penn State go join the Big East. Without Paterno there really isn't anyone pleading to stay in the Big Ten in Happy Valley anyway. We are now back to the real Big Ten.

C - Enforce having a full round conference competition, Big Ten and Pac 10 are thus made again parallel entities.

D - Big East also picks up Army and Navy, starts talks with ND

E - ND joins Bigger East which splits into two leagues of 6 and institutes a championship game.

F - Penn State reclaims historic rivalry games with Pitt and West Virginia. Begins anew the ND rivalry.

G - ND keeps their commanders trophy games and their OOC games with TSUN, USC and A.N.Others to flesh out their schedule.
 
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i remember there was an article by adam rittenberg on espn making a case for a few teams to join the big ten...
i think he had ND, army and navy joining and renaming the B10 to the big north (dont like this name at all).
then he divided the 14 teams into two divisions, with a conference championship at the end of the season...
not a bad idea, but i dont think its right to bring in two armed forces teams...ill try to find that article in the espn archived articles
 
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Worst possible time to be thinking about this with the domers having a new coach (and this time he really, really, really the bestest coach ever). Hope springs eternal in South Bend, and the domers are convinced that this time they did it right.

Let the Kelly thing play out. See if the domers remain irrelevant. Maybe they lose their NBC contract and possibly get their Olympic sports kicked out of the Big East, then the faculty starts to make some real grumbling about joining the CIC. If so, the best option starts to fall into place.

If we do this now, we take one of our backup choices: Pitt, Syracuse, Rutgers or Mizzou.
 
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NUTS4theBUCKS28;1618697; said:
i remember there was an article by adam rittenberg on espn making a case for a few teams to join the big ten...
i think he had ND, army and navy joining and renaming the B10 to the big north (dont like this name at all).
then he divided the 14 teams into two divisions, with a conference championship at the end of the season...
not a bad idea, but i dont think its right to bring in two armed forces teams...ill try to find that article in the espn archived articles
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Absurd choices that would never pass CIC muster. Hell, the domers don't even pass CIC muster and only were offered last time around due to their strong undergrad rep and commitments from faculty and deans to seriously upgrade their research and Ph.D programs.

If we ever made the ridiculous move to 14 teams, I think it would be domers, Syracuse/Rutgers/Pitt (create a rival for PSU and in the case of the former two add the NYC tv market) and Mizzou (St. Louis and KC tv markets).
 
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