Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

[lord vegas]

another game that can't be skipped, although OSU fans refuse to acknowledge them as the rival they are.

Yet we watch their every game, know their ranking, know their recruits, etc... We need to just come out and make it known "We don't care for PSU not in the least bit". I cheer for Iowa every year to knock them off. lol

I wouldn't mind seeing Pitt enter the B10. Give the PSU fans something else to cry about. Besides there Bball program is already top tier, but I'm still waiting for the football team to turn the corner and remain consistant.

 

[krazeyk]

I cheer for Iowa every year to knock them off. lol

I was there last night in an OSU sweatshirt and a white Buckeye Tee(out of respect for my friends who sadly are PSU fans) I was rooting hard for the Hawkeyes and almost felt like it was tOSU. Even got some Iowa fans to OH-IO-WA me!

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

How are Nebraska's academics? That's a pretty big deal to the conference.

They're an AAU member which is an unwritten requirement for anyone other than ND ( which has very strong undergrad rep but weak-ass faculty, research and grad).

Still, they'd be the consensus worst academic school in an enlarged B10, and they don't open any significant television markets.

 

[Gooey Mess]

Any chance ND would join the B10?

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Any chance ND would join the B10?

Have you read any of this thread?

 

[muffler dragon]

Any chance ND would join the B10?

In lieu of what Mili wrote, ND offers the Big Ten nothing IMO. Thus, I sure hope not, and I doubt it's going to happen since their post-graduate academics suck.

 

[LeBuckeye]

Cincinnati...

It makes pretty good sense to me, you get a second Ohio team and a rising program with a damn good coach. It makes sense for Cincinnati because moving to a better conference would give more incentive for Kelly to stay.

Regardless of who it is though, the Big 10 needs a 12th team ASAP for the sake of everyone in the conference.

 

[Zurp]

Regardless of who it is though, the Big 10 needs a 12th team ASAP for the sake of everyone in the conference.

Why?

In lieu of what Mili wrote, ND offers the Big Ten nothing IMO. Thus, I sure hope not, and I doubt it's going to happen since their post-graduate academics suck.

As much as I hate to say it, I think Notre Dame may be the only team that has anything to give the Big Ten. Speaking strictly about the football, Notre Dame is a giant in the eyes of the media, and compared to most other "worthy" candidates mentioned in this thread, will bring billions or trillions or zillions of new viewers to the Big Ten. What will Cincinnati or Pitt or Syracuse bring to the Big Ten? Certainly not the numbers of Notre Dam fans. Unfortunately, those new viewers would be Notre Dame fans. But, money is money.

Didn't Notre Dame get an offer in the early 90's? When Penn State joined? Or maybe later? Late 90's? If so, and if Notre Dame's academics are so weak, why are academics more important now than they were then?

(For the record, I am against further Big Ten expansion.)

 

[jwinslow]

Notre dame would enhance the conference. They don't have to be great to do so. They were a Georgia caliber team in 05, 06 and are again this year. They won't see another 07 for a long time.

The rivalries are there. Sparty, um, purdue. There's even history with psu and osu.

Their contract grows weaker by the year in comparison to the big ten's revenue from espn and the btn. If there was any way to bring nbc into the fold, then you'd really have something.

Big east basketball could be a hangup, as well as the flexibility of being independent. Then there's the matter of egos on both sides.

Cinci is a terrible idea. It adds virtually nothing to the conference footprint, it probably weakens the only consistent thing the league has going right now (osu)... and the addition is coming from the weakest bcs conf, which would likely further the stereotypes about the b10.

 

[muffler dragon]

Regardless of who it is though, the Big 10 needs a 12th team ASAP for the sake of everyone in the conference.

The Buckeyes don't "need" a 12th team. Point refuted.

 

[Jaxbuck]

Notre dame would enhance the conference. They don't have to be great to do so. They were a Georgia caliber team in 05, 06 and are again this year. They won't see another 07 for a long time.

The rivalries are there. Sparty, um, purdue. There's even history with psu and osu.

Their contract grows weaker by the year in comparison to the big ten's revenue from espn and the btn. If there was any way to bring nbc into the fold, then you'd really have something.

Big east basketball could be a hangup, as well as the flexibility of being independent. Then there's the matter of egos on both sides.

Cinci is a terrible idea. It adds virtually nothing to the conference footprint, it probably weakens the only consistent thing the league has going right now (osu)... and the addition is coming from the weakest bcs conf, which would likely further the stereotypes about the b10.

Not to get off track but an added element to having ND in the B10 (and the subsequent B10 CCG) is you would essentially have a first round of playoffs in all the BCS conferences. The SEC, B10, B12 and ACC would all have an on the field champion from a title game while the Pac10 and BE all play each other. I don't want to start a playoff tangent, just noting that 2 of the major technical roadblocks to one (ND being independent and no B10 CCG) could be "fixed" in one move should ND join.

If it had to happen and it wasn't ND I would think Syracuse to the East or Missouri to the West would be choices. Not sure of either schools academics but I've always had the impression Syracuse was solid.

 

[martinss01]

Cincinnati...

It makes pretty good sense to me, you get a second Ohio team and a rising program with a damn good coach. It makes sense for Cincinnati because moving to a better conference would give more incentive for Kelly to stay.

this would gain uc what exactly? they would immediately go from raining king shit in a bcs conference (big money) to just another mid level fighting to stay bowl eligible. uc doesn't have the facilities, recruiting base, or fan support to keep pace in the big 10 and are years away from being close.

its funny listening to all the uc love this season. two years ago only a handful of cincy residents actually knew uc had a football team.

Regardless of who it is though, the Big 10 needs a 12th team ASAP for the sake of everyone in the conference.

why? a conference championship exists for no other reason than money. outside of that all it does is pit a suck team against a good team. how many times have we seen a 4 loss team play an undefeated or 1 loss team ranked #3 or better play in a cc game? if it means that much to you i suppose we could schedule northwestern at the end of the season...

 

[jwinslow]

Ccg have been a joke in the big 12, and have cheapened Texas' consistently strong seasons.

They have done nothing to save the acc from continuing to slip further and further into mediocrity. That conference has been worse than the big ten in terms of big games ooc, yet no one notices because no one cares about their irrelevant conference.

The sec is great because of the titles they've won, not because of beating a so-so tennessee team in a title game.


Next year, Osu-mich is being played after thanksgiving. If visibility was a huge priority, they could always move it to the first weekend in December. I think one week later is just fine.

 

[BB73]

This topic comes up every year. It's an OK topic from February through July.

 

[Mike80]

Cincinnati...

It makes pretty good sense to me, you get a second Ohio team and a rising program with a damn good coach. It makes sense for Cincinnati because moving to a better conference would give more incentive for Kelly to stay.

Whether or not Kelly stays won't have a damn thing to do with Cincy being in the Big 10 or not.

Cincy's facilities are 2nd rate, they have a tiny stadium that they struggle to sell out AND they will always be 2nd banana everywhere in the state EXCEPT Cincy.

He's destined for bigger and better things IMO.

Regardless of who it is though, the Big 10 needs a 12th team ASAP for the sake of everyone in the conference.

ASAP?? Sake of who???