OregonBuckeye
Semper Fi Buckeyes
You admire their delusion and justify our failure by saying the greatest rivalry in college sports just won't matter anymore so problem solved?
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They just fired the shitty OC looks like Moore at least knows to move on quick when things arent working.
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osuvictory1
Just a schlub from Y-town
Nah .... I think it will still be important, but at the same time it is kind of easy to see where this is heading.
For example, when the Browns lose to the Steelers, it is always a contentious, but the players and fans kind of move on from there. It isn't as big of a deal unless there is something on the line.
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College and pro fans are a very different bunch though. Players in college are kids who are fueled by a ton of emotion and testosterone. We've all been in our earlt 20s before, and many of us would fight or do something ignorant at a moments notice. And many of us grow out of that, and when rooting for a pro team, we're not trying to cause physical altercations, and for the most part neither are the players. That's why you don't see flag planting in the NFL, because NFL players KNOW what will happen next(just like back in the day when TO did his stunt in the middle of the Dallas star when he played for the 49ers)
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I think it has to do with one's personal attachment. For example, I went to Ohio State and I have, therefore, a fairly deep personal attachment to Ohio State. I can say it's "my" team in some sense because they represent my school. I can't say that about, say the Minnesota Vikings. I was born in Minnesota. I have some personal attachment to them, sure, but I no longer live there and haven't for better than 40 years. I am more attached to Ohio by now... and I can't bring myself to get upset if Cleveland sucks and I've just never cared for Cincy. So, I like it when Minnesota or Cleveland wins, but I don't care if they lose.
Similarly, what's on the line is an issue. In the pros, not much usually. Individual wins don't really matter. Amassing enough of them is what matters. I see that as the direction college football is moving.
We are a dying breed, those of us who would prefer a win over scUM to a 12-1 season with that loss being to them. For myself, with the CFP this year, I haven't been nearly as upset with the 2 losses sustained this year. They're inconsequential ... but for what the mean to my old school heart.... and I think somewhere in the recesses of my psyche I've just figured out to not stress myself out about this shit anymore. I've only got so many heartbeats left, you know?
Similarly, what's on the line is an issue. In the pros, not much usually. Individual wins don't really matter. Amassing enough of them is what matters. I see that as the direction college football is moving.
We are a dying breed, those of us who would prefer a win over scUM to a 12-1 season with that loss being to them. For myself, with the CFP this year, I haven't been nearly as upset with the 2 losses sustained this year. They're inconsequential ... but for what the mean to my old school heart.... and I think somewhere in the recesses of my psyche I've just figured out to not stress myself out about this shit anymore. I've only got so many heartbeats left, you know?
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LovelandBuckeye
You never lose to those pricks. Ever. Ever. - UFM
Unfortunately, this is true. A lot of Ohio State fan social media accounts couldn't give a shit less about that loss on Saturday because there is still a shot at a Natty. I couldn't care less if the Bengals go 0-4 against Cleveland and Pittsburgh as long as they make the playoffs...and even then I don't really care. However, losing to those cocksuckers up north really sucks ass and I think we are the only fanbase that has this feeling after a loss to their rival.
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osuvictory1
Just a schlub from Y-town
I guess we shall see where everything lies later. The aspect of college programs having different teams basically every season because of the transfer portal means that there will be kids who say the right things to their fan base, but not actually care. They just want to meet their stats to assist with the NFL. That kind of can be seen now.
The expanded playoff means that teams can lose 2 maybe 3 games, one of which may be the rivalry game. After a while, it is human nature to accept a new reality once it happens, because the new reality will be greater parity in CFB.
Plus there are going to be multiple opportunities to play the same rival every season.
I can be dead wrong. Who knows.
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osuvictory1
Just a schlub from Y-town
Plus, look at the SEC. They have a superiority complex from years of teams beating the crap out of each other, then meeting again the playoffs.
SEC fans don't seem to care about losing to their rival every year, and have what seems to be a more kindred spirit about it.
With that said, if Day is around next year, he can't lose to Scum. Lol!!!
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You also have to realize that a large amount fans of elite programs in CFB are not alum. I'm as big an OSU fan as anyone, but I went to an HBCU college in VA, lived in a city that wasn't the biggest of OSU centric cities in OH, and I wasn't born in OH. And in HS, I had absolutely no interest in attending OSU, or any college in the midwest. I've traveled and met tons of fans across the country(USC, Bama, LSU, Tenn, scUM, etc), and most fans are just that, and never attended that university.
I'm conflicted over how I feel if OSU loses to scUM but then wins an NC, At the end of the day you play to win the championship at the end of the year. Rivalry games are massive, but to hoist the championship proclaiming to be the best team in the country, isn't that the end game? Idk, maybe me not being an alum my view is different. But(and I could be wrong in this assessment) the SEC teams seem much happier to win a NC than to beat their rival. It always seems that Bama wanted to win it all and Auburn was a consolation, UGA wants a title, beating Tenn and UF were consolations. Would you rather be a defending champ at seasons end, or lose in 1st round of CFP but beat scUM after landing talent that should be able to win you a title?
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ORD_Buckeye
Wrong glass, Sir.
According to one study, Ohio State has the largest fanbase in the US at 11.26M people. We have 600K living alumni. So even if every single alumnus were a rabid fan, that would put non-alumni fans at just under 95% of the fanbase, In reality, I'd guess that at least half the alumni either don't care at all about football or have a casual/passing interest in it. So 300K passionate alumni fans out of 11.26M or roughly 2.5% of the fanbase.
For the most part, I spent the 12 years after college/grad living outside the US and really didn't pay any attention to Ohio State football. It was the 90s, so a pretty good decade to take off. I lived in Columbus for three during the Cooper-Tressel handoff. Tried to be a fan, but being in Columbus, I was just put off by the nonstop drumbeat of it and tried to tune it ou. I only got back into Ohio State football after I got away from Columbus.
For the most part, I spent the 12 years after college/grad living outside the US and really didn't pay any attention to Ohio State football. It was the 90s, so a pretty good decade to take off. I lived in Columbus for three during the Cooper-Tressel handoff. Tried to be a fan, but being in Columbus, I was just put off by the nonstop drumbeat of it and tried to tune it ou. I only got back into Ohio State football after I got away from Columbus.
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I lived in Austin, TX, and I'm sure @AuTX Buckeye can attest, there are still A TON of UT students who don't even pay attention to the football program. And I can say that with confidence that can be applied to pretty much every program that's ranked annually. I remember so many UC fans talking crap to me when Brian Kelly was in his heyday with them, and OSU wasn't ranked as high. Those same fans can barely name 3 players on the team or even know the HC
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ORD_Buckeye
Wrong glass, Sir.
When I was in school, the rule was pretty much that everybody bought their season tickets freshman year. Second year, about half bought and about half of them didn't go to every game. Third, fourth and fifth years, maybe 20 percent went to games and a greater number didn't even care about football.
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I’m with you. I kind of had a feeling in 2018 that we were at the end of an era but now there is no doubt in my mind. It is what it is. I’ve kind of put The Game in the old memories box and am moving on with what the world is bringing my way, like it or not.
It still matters to some of us like it used to but that will fade. CFB is moving (at a great rate) to being like Euro club soccer mixed with NFL. It will be interesting to see it play out but none of it is what I grew up with so it won’t be better or worse. It will just be different.
Like a lot of things that were once seemingly life and death to me, the older I get my perspective changes.
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LovelandBuckeye
You never lose to those pricks. Ever. Ever. - UFM
Yep. My wife has commented the last two years that I have been surprisingly calm. Oh well.
However, I will not go to my friend's house like I have the last 3 years for The Game in 2025. That basement bar has bad vibes and I will drink alone at my basement bar next year...so book the win now.
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Captain Buckeye
Legend
Yeah my wife mentioned the same lol…
I still talked out loud a few times such as “stop running the ball up the middle” and “oh my god he missed it” but sadly it also helps to know what’s coming.
I knew in the fourth quarter we were losing. I even said as much in the game thread. You could see our guys souls being taken mid game.
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