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2023 tOSU Offense

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OregonBuckeye said:
Mark Helfrich couldn't recruit worth a shit. Day is indisputably better in that regard. I can't disagree with the rest tho. Uninspiring to say the least
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I still gotta wonder how much rope he gets. We hopefully aren't talking like 1999 or 1988 here {I'm leaving 2011 out of the comparison because all that NCAA investigation stuff with Tressel and Pryor jumping the ship and all that wasn't a normal year.} But even 8-4 and 9-3 still feel like failure.

On top of that, we had better not be waiting until he goes 2-10-1 (or whatever Cooper's record was) against scUM. I know it's unlikely even a replacement coach would go undefeated against them, but at least be able to pull an Earl Bruce or something.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
I’ll go ahead and call my shots at this point; ND, Penn State and Tsun with a very strong chance of the Purdue and or Wisconsin trips biting us.

More people start to wonder if after 5 years, things are better or worse than Day found them.
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The one thing I never questioned under Urban was would the team be tough and physical. That’s the biggest concern I have with Day’s teams. There are some tough and physical players, but the team as a whole I question. I want to see our Oline blowing guys off the line.
 
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247sports.com

Ohio State QB situation, Buckeyes offense under microscope after sluggish start in opener

The Buckeyes' offense needs to work out some kinks after a shaky performance against Indiana.
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Ohio State QB situation, Buckeyes offense under microscope after sluggish start in opener​

It was far from an aesthetically pleasing performance by the Ohio State offense as Kyle McCord started at quarterback for the Buckeyes' 23-3 win against Indiana on Saturday in Bloomington. Ohio State found the end zone just twice on 10 offensive possessions with both of the scores coming on the ground. Backup Devin Brown, who competed with McCord for the starting job this preseason, saw minimal action in the Buckeyes' season opener.

McCord took a majority of the snaps at quarterback and finished 20-of-33 (60.6%) for 239 yards with one interception. Brown did not attempt a pass until the Buckeyes' final drive of the fourth quarter. He ended the game 1-of-3 (33.3%) for minus-two yards.

"I thought (McCord) had some really good moments," Ohio State head coach Ryan Day told CBS Sports postgame. "There's a lot to learn from, a lot to grow on. We got the first 'W' and that's the point."
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Just for the comparisons here:

C.J. Stroud’s 1st half at Minnesota in 2021: 8 of 14 for 58 yards and an INT

Kyle McCord’s first half at Indiana in 2023: 9 of 12 for 70 yards and an INT

In both cases, the new quarterback wasn’t elevating things, but he also wasn't the problem
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The Ohio State offense — with McCord still at quarterback — was able to move the ball better in the second half, scoring on three of its five offensive possessions. The Buckeyes totaled 143 yards passing in the second half, compared to 94 yards in the opening half of action.
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buckeyebri said:
The one thing I never questioned under Urban was would the team be tough and physical. That’s the biggest concern I have with Day’s teams. There are some tough and physical players, but the team as a whole I question. I want to see our Oline blowing guys off the line.
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Read Ramzy’s article on the difference in weight room expectations. Therein lies your answer.
 
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www.landgrantholyland.com

The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly: Ohio State’s 23-3 win over Indiana

Ryan Day cannot function as both the Buckeyes’ GM and primary play-caller.
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The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly: Ohio State’s 23-3 win over Indiana​

Ryan Day cannot function as both the Buckeyes’ GM and primary play-caller.

The Ugly​

Play-Calling

Holy hell, was the play-calling in this game bad. I don't even quite know where to start. We touched on the plays in the run game a few times earlier on here, but Ryan Day was seemingly addicted to calling runs into the boundary no matter how many times it failed. The play-calling on the ground was especially predictable, continuing to run headfirst into the blitz on third-and-short as a big reason Ohio State did so poorly converting. Especially behind a line that clearly needs more work in the run blocking area, Day was setting his team up to fail time and time again.

In addition, Day trying to outsmart himself by going away from his best players far too often. Marvin Harrison Jr. and Emeka Egbuka finished this game combining for five catches for 34 yards. There is no reason to not put the ball in the hands of your best players more. Every time the Buckeyes needed to pick up yards in key areas, Day elected to draw up a play directed towards a tight end or running back. It is good that you trust all of your guys to come up in big spots, but you have two of the best wide receivers in the country — use them!

So many of Ohio State’s issues on offense can be directly attributed to play-calling. I don’t think McCord played exceptionally good or bad, but we really didn't get to see all that he can do out there because Day seemed too scared to call a forward pass more than five yards upfield and instead remained conservative from start to finish. With all of the talent the Buckeyes have at the skill positions, it is indefensible to not let these guys loose. Instead, the offense looked tight and played scared against an inferior opponent for no good reason. To finish a game without a passing touchdown in this offense is inexcusable.

It is looking more and more apparent that Ohio State will not be able to maximize its talent until Day gives up the play-calling. He is a tremendous quarterback coach, recruiter and program-builder, but it is putting too much on your plate to also have the call sheet in your hands on game days. He is trying to do too much and always wants to look like the smartest guy in the room, and it is going to once again cost his team at the end of the year — if not sooner.
 
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ScriptOhio said:
www.landgrantholyland.com

The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly: Ohio State’s 23-3 win over Indiana

Ryan Day cannot function as both the Buckeyes’ GM and primary play-caller.
www.landgrantholyland.com www.landgrantholyland.com

The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly: Ohio State’s 23-3 win over Indiana​

Ryan Day cannot function as both the Buckeyes’ GM and primary play-caller.

The Ugly​

Play-Calling

Holy hell, was the play-calling in this game bad. I don't even quite know where to start. We touched on the plays in the run game a few times earlier on here, but Ryan Day was seemingly addicted to calling runs into the boundary no matter how many times it failed. The play-calling on the ground was especially predictable, continuing to run headfirst into the blitz on third-and-short as a big reason Ohio State did so poorly converting. Especially behind a line that clearly needs more work in the run blocking area, Day was setting his team up to fail time and time again.

In addition, Day trying to outsmart himself by going away from his best players far too often. Marvin Harrison Jr. and Emeka Egbuka finished this game combining for five catches for 34 yards. There is no reason to not put the ball in the hands of your best players more. Every time the Buckeyes needed to pick up yards in key areas, Day elected to draw up a play directed towards a tight end or running back. It is good that you trust all of your guys to come up in big spots, but you have two of the best wide receivers in the country — use them!

So many of Ohio State’s issues on offense can be directly attributed to play-calling. I don’t think McCord played exceptionally good or bad, but we really didn't get to see all that he can do out there because Day seemed too scared to call a forward pass more than five yards upfield and instead remained conservative from start to finish. With all of the talent the Buckeyes have at the skill positions, it is indefensible to not let these guys loose. Instead, the offense looked tight and played scared against an inferior opponent for no good reason. To finish a game without a passing touchdown in this offense is inexcusable.

It is looking more and more apparent that Ohio State will not be able to maximize its talent until Day gives up the play-calling. He is a tremendous quarterback coach, recruiter and program-builder, but it is putting too much on your plate to also have the call sheet in your hands on game days. He is trying to do too much and always wants to look like the smartest guy in the room, and it is going to once again cost his team at the end of the year — if not sooner.
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He’s a tremendous program builder?

Someone back that statement up with something. Anything.

I’ll give you QB coach and offensive coordinator but he’s built exactly dick. He inherited a monster, wasn’t ready for the job and hasn’t grown into it.
 
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Chip is our best RB, and it’s not very close.

Was really bummed with McCord. To me, he locked in on one half of field and rarely made it through the second progression. He missed so many wide open throws if he just gets to that 3rd read. It brings up play calling questions to me if the QB can only get through 2 reads, the play designs need to accommodate that….we’ve seen it before with Baker Mayfield and Lincoln Reilly.

For me, personally, I never wavered on CJ Stroud based on limited experience bc I saw the potential.

I don’t know…when I watch McCord, even on what many would consider a great throw, I see a QB throwing to the wrong read, forcing a throw….and he got lucky a few times on dropped INT’s…

I’m not loving the vibe to be honest….I think Devin Brown ends year as starter, IMO.
 
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billmac91 said:
Chip is our best RB, and it’s not very close.

Was really bummed with McCord. To me, he locked in on one half of field and rarely made it through the second progression. He missed so many wide open throws if he just gets to that 3rd read. It brings up play calling questions to me if the QB can only get through 2 reads, the play designs need to accommodate that….we’ve seen it before with Baker Mayfield and Lincoln Reilly.

For me, personally, I never wavered on CJ Stroud based on limited experience bc I saw the potential.

I don’t know…when I watch McCord, even on what many would consider a great throw, I see a QB throwing to the wrong read, forcing a throw….and he got lucky a few times on dropped INT’s…

I’m not loving the vibe to be honest….I think Devin Brown ends year as starter, IMO.
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Yeah that's about what I feel. I do know it's been a while, probably since Bauserman since we were really led by more of the pure pocket passer type of QB like this guy. I know you can still do things with those kinds of QBs but I definitely prefer having the QB be one who can use his running ability as a weapon as well.

I know people have been saying go to Brown, and I know he didn't really get much of an opportunity to play today, but he looked very off when throwing the ball, and that was against a well tired Indiana defense while he was plenty fresh. That's just not the result I would expect to see.

I'm afraid our next great QB is probably not on this roster, unless Keinholz or Gebbia have something I don't know about. Thinking our hope is to ride it out with KMcC this year and hope we can nab a transfer QB next year who's dynamic but wouldn't get a full time starter role at his current school due to the current guy being slightly better.
 
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DurhamBuckeye1986 said:
Yeah that's about what I feel. I do know it's been a while, probably since Bauserman since we were really led by more of the pure pocket passer type of QB like this guy. I know you can still do things with those kinds of QBs but I definitely prefer having the QB be one who can use his running ability as a weapon as well.

I know people have been saying go to Brown, and I know he didn't really get much of an opportunity to play today, but he looked very off when throwing the ball, and that was against a well tired Indiana defense while he was plenty fresh. That's just not the result I would expect to see.

I'm afraid our next great QB is probably not on this roster, unless Keinholz or Gebbia have something I don't know about. Thinking our hope is to ride it out with KMcC this year and hope we can nab a transfer QB next year who's dynamic but wouldn't get a full time starter role at his current school due to the current guy being slightly better.
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He looked off throwing? How did you come to that conclusion? He threw two passes correct? Who were they too and what were the results?
 
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Well, I am glad for the win, but no one is impressed with the performance of the Buckeyes offense.

There will have to be growth by leaps and bounds to compete and win against the upcoming opponents. Good thing we didn't open against the perenerally over-rated ND as we didn't look anywhere near ready to compete against them.

I thought Treyveon looked more decisive in the beginning of the game, but that was short-lived. Miyan who usually bowls people over was getting caught quick by the D and the line didn't seem to be playing very well enough to help his cause.

To me the body language of Day on the sideline was as if he fully expected the level of play to be subpar, that he was seeing the fruits of his product, and seeing exactly what he thought he'd see.

I'm surprised the ball didn't get into the hands of MHJ and Egbuka more often.

Let's see what kind of improvements come next game. If that O-line doesn't get fixed it will be a rough season.

Props to the D...
 
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