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2023 tCun Shenanigans, Arguments, Cobras, Feckless Marmots, Fake Pandas, Dirty Cheaters

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Depends on Ono… if the NCAA hits them hard I don’t think he’ll survive given his lack of effort to do anything about this.

I think they’ll want a clean slate if it goes down like I think it will next year
I hope so. I also think that perhaps the public humiliation (which is what they fear the most) might cause them to cut him loose. I'll be hopeful, but that piece of shit just seems to embody the "when good things happen to bad people" trope. I'd love to see him fail spectacularly in a nationally publicized manner.

In any event, the SEC might not be a bad fit for them. Ono is certainly handling this like an SEC President.
 
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Regardless if there was any early suspensions, it was always going to come down to tOSU beating scUM.

Which is why The Game is as significant this year as it was last year. Possibly even more so - revenge AND affirmation for the Bucks and the coaching staff.

We don't need Penn State to win, but if they physically took a toll, while possibly exposing some weaknesses - that would go a long way towards helping us. All the while we get young DBs playing time as the starters rest and get healthy.

Edit: worth pointing out how close we are to another potential #1 vs #2 matchup.

Only way to truly make this right for the immediate future is to beat them on the field. Plain and simple.
 
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Like, I dunno about much in the way of legal defenses , as long as they fulfill the due process requirement here

which is no shit, only this:

10.3.1 Commissioner’s Discretion, Timeliness, and Due Process. The Commissioner has the discretion to pursue, or choose not to pursue, an investigation as to whether an offensive action has occurred. In the event the Commissioner decides to pursue such an investigation, the Commissioner shall commence the investigation as expeditiously as possible upon notification that such an offensive action may have occurred. Upon commencement of such an investigation, the Commissioner shall determine, as expeditiously as possible, whether an offensive action did occur. Any involved institution or individual at risk of disciplinary action shall be provided an opportunity, which may be waived, to offer its or his or her position as to whether an offensive action occurred. The timeframe within which an institution or individual shall provide its or his or her position shall be set by the Commissioner, and shall be reasonable in light of the circumstances. Upon determination that an offensive action did occur, the Commissioner shall, as expeditiously as possible, determine whether disciplinary action should be imposed, and if so, what it should be.

The other kicker is...

10.3.3.2.1 Interim Action. Prior to receiving approval, the Commissioner may impose as interim action any lesser disciplinary action (i.e., any disciplinary action for which prior approval would not be required), which shall be in effect until the JGEC has had the opportunity to review and act upon any proposed major disciplinary actions.

Which basically means you don't have to pick between "Standard" and "Major" actions up front, the Commissioner can impose the minor one at his discretion while JGEC can review a major infraction.

So, and I'm sorry I got 30 pages behind over the weekend and as a result, I skimmed a lot. Do we know if the B1G has notified them that they are likely to be the subject of disciplinary action, because that's step 1. (Well, I mean other than the cheating)
 
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Like, I dunno about much in the way of legal defenses , as long as they fulfill the due process requirement here

which is no shit, only this:

10.3.1 Commissioner’s Discretion, Timeliness, and Due Process. The Commissioner has the discretion to pursue, or choose not to pursue, an investigation as to whether an offensive action has occurred. In the event the Commissioner decides to pursue such an investigation, the Commissioner shall commence the investigation as expeditiously as possible upon notification that such an offensive action may have occurred. Upon commencement of such an investigation, the Commissioner shall determine, as expeditiously as possible, whether an offensive action did occur. Any involved institution or individual at risk of disciplinary action shall be provided an opportunity, which may be waived, to offer its or his or her position as to whether an offensive action occurred. The timeframe within which an institution or individual shall provide its or his or her position shall be set by the Commissioner, and shall be reasonable in light of the circumstances. Upon determination that an offensive action did occur, the Commissioner shall, as expeditiously as possible, determine whether disciplinary action should be imposed, and if so, what it should be.

The other kicker is...

10.3.3.2.1 Interim Action. Prior to receiving approval, the Commissioner may impose as interim action any lesser disciplinary action (i.e., any disciplinary action for which prior approval would not be required), which shall be in effect until the JGEC has had the opportunity to review and act upon any proposed major disciplinary actions.

Which basically means you don't have to pick between "Standard" and "Major" actions up front, the Commissioner can impose the minor one at his discretion while JGEC can review a major infraction.

So, and I'm sorry I got 30 pages behind over the weekend and as a result, I skimmed a lot. Do we know if the B1G has notified them that they are likely to be the subject of disciplinary action, because that's step 1. (Well, I mean other than the cheating)
That happened Friday when Pettiti met with Ono ....

Adding a few days for the shit stains to figure out their position only strengthens the BIG's position regarding any attempt to get a TRO.
 
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In situations like this it is sometimes hard to find the space between being naive and being cynical. IMHO this is the latter. I think it’s too early to say the CUNTS are going to get away with it. We may not know anything until February. Or we might find out something this week; but even if something is announced this week, it’ll still be too early to say that we’ve heard the end of it
I'm drawing on the double reverse negative anti-karma here...

And 25+ years of working in and around the Federal bureaucracy. If it were as open and shut (it never was) as we thought, it would be easy. The Big Ten bitching out (because that's what it is) is just like someone not wanting to make a decision and booting it "upstairs" to their supervisor.

In my view it was far easier for the NCAA to give some desultory "punishment" while the money flows in than to take any actual stand.

Maybe they prove me right, maybe they prove me wrong. I hope I'm wrong, but life experience tells me otherwise. And yeah, it's cynical. So what, it's a cynical world we live in.
 
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Like, I dunno, as long as they fulfill the due process requirement here

which is no shit, only this:

10.3.1 Commissioner’s Discretion, Timeliness, and Due Process. The Commissioner has the discretion to pursue, or choose not to pursue, an investigation as to whether an offensive action has occurred. In the event the Commissioner decides to pursue such an investigation, the Commissioner shall commence the investigation as expeditiously as possible upon notification that such an offensive action may have occurred. Upon commencement of such an investigation, the Commissioner shall determine, as expeditiously as possible, whether an offensive action did occur. Any involved institution or individual at risk of disciplinary action shall be provided an opportunity, which may be waived, to offer its or his or her position as to whether an offensive action occurred. The timeframe within which an institution or individual shall provide its or his or her position shall be set by the Commissioner, and shall be reasonable in light of the circumstances. Upon determination that an offensive action did occur, the Commissioner shall, as expeditiously as possible, determine whether disciplinary action should be imposed, and if so, what it should be.

The other kicker is...

10.3.3.2.1 Interim Action. Prior to receiving approval, the Commissioner may impose as interim action any lesser disciplinary action (i.e., any disciplinary action for which prior approval would not be required), which shall be in effect until the JGEC has had the opportunity to review and act upon any proposed major disciplinary actions.

Which basically means you don't have to pick between "Standard" and "Major" actions up front, the Commissioner can impose the minor one at his discretion while JGEC can review a major infraction.

So, and I'm sorry I got 30 pages behind over the weekend and as a result, I skimmed a lot. Do we know if the B1G has notified them that they are likely to be the subject of disciplinary action, because that's step 1. (Well, I mean other than the cheating)
And the TSUN signed off on all of this by being a member of the conference. The more resistance and arrogance that they show, the harder the hammer is going to fall. And, be assured, the NCAA is keeping a close watch on everything. There is a dark cloud over Ann Arbor and a costly storm is on it's way. I long for the day that their idol is cast to the ground and shattered into pieces.
 
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Regardless if there was any early suspensions, it was always going to come down to tOSU beating scUM.

Which is why The Game is as significant this year as it was last year. Possibly even more so - revenge AND affirmation for the Bucks and the coaching staff.

We don't need Penn State to win, but if they physically took a toll, while possibly exposing some weaknesses - that would go a long way towards helping us. All the while we get young DBs playing time as the starters rest and get healthy.

Edit: worth pointing out how close we are to another potential #1 vs #2 matchup.

Only way to truly make this right for the immediate future is to beat them on the field. Plain and simple.
PSU just beat MD and put 51 points on them. They may have broken through and figured out their offensive issues. So, things may get interesting for the TCUN in Happy Valley.
 
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From 11W board, no idea on the legitimacy of the poster, but


I jumped the gun a little last night supposedly will have clarity no later than Wednesday. Michigan is mad because not only does the big ten want harbaugh suspended indefinitely they also want Moore and minter suspended for the season. Michigan fighting this has also lead to negotiations with the big ten from fox because from what I hear coaches and ADs want their season over and pettiti wants just their staff done for year we’ll now Michigan is realizing how arrogant Michigan is and is now talking ideas and deals if they were to get out of these remaining games being that the psu and osu games will be huge

Do you still think they get the top three? That's the only compromise I can take.

That seems to be what pettiti wanted to do still wasn’t as severe as what everyone else wanted. But the analogy I’ll use is Michigan is that kid that got in trouble and is still acting out so pettiti is turning into the angry mom saying ok keep it up and you’ll really find out what a punishment is

I wonder if Pettiti proposed JH and the coordinators suspended for the season as punishment to make it harder to use the illegally gained information, if Santa didn’t like that then B1G is saying their season is done. And he asks Santa how can I tell the other teams that you aren’t getting a massive, illegally gained advantage from what has already happened?

What you said seems to be exactly what I have heard
 
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