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2023 tCun Shenanigans, Arguments, Cobras, Feckless Marmots, Fake Pandas, Dirty Cheaters

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ORD_Buckeye said:
IListening to the Sirius college hosts these last two days, and they've all come around to the idea that tsun needs to have their ass handed to them. I'm going to assume that the ncaa will come out with their notice of violations early next week, and the B1G will then make their announcement on Thursday or Friday. Everything about how Petitti handled the Astros says he's not going to fuck around. .
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Some of their sports radio, like NFL on Sirius is very meh.....but MLB and their college station is fire. Love listening to Neuheisel as long as he's not being interrupted by Childers constantly :lol:
 
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Under normal circumstances I would agree on the NCAA slow rolling.

But this has been described by more than one long term coach as unprecedented, unacceptable and beyond anything they have ever seen. The phrase "compromising the integrity of the game" keeps coming up.

The impact of impermissable benefits and recruiting violations (the bulk of cases) is tough to pin down. In this case we can point directly at games where this affected the outcome. And the team on trial is on a track that could lead to a National Championship. Nobody wants that to happen.

Folks keep talking about the 90 days the University has to respond to allegations. But if the university agrees to the facts and the punishment it can happen as soon as that agreement is reached. I would think that the NCAA in this case would have significant leverage to negotiate something of a plea deal where speed leads to long term leniency.

All that said, I still believe Ono or the Big will bring the hammer down first - and I am betting on Ono.
 
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Oh8ch said:
Under normal circumstances I would agree on the NCAA slow rolling.

But this has been described by more than one long term coach as unprecedented, unacceptable and beyond anything they have ever seen. The phrase "compromising the integrity of the game" keeps coming up.

The impact of impermissable benefits and recruiting violations (the bulk of cases) is tough to pin down. In this case we can point directly at games where this affected the outcome. And the team on trial is on a track that could lead to a National Championship. Nobody wants that to happen.

Folks keep talking about the 90 days the University has to respond to allegations. But if the university agrees to the facts and the punishment it can happen as soon as that agreement is reached. I would think that the NCAA in this case would have significant leverage to negotiate something of a plea deal where speed leads to long term leniency.

All that said, I still believe Ono or the Big will bring the hammer down first - and I am betting on Ono.
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Yup. Accept forfeiting all contests from 2021-2023 and fire the staff, and you can return to the field in 2024. Contest this, and we’ll throw a multi year postseason ban and the worst scholarship reduction penalty the sport has seen since PSU/Jerry Sandusky.
 
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Oh8ch said:
Under normal circumstances I would agree on the NCAA slow rolling.

But this has been described by more than one long term coach as unprecedented, unacceptable and beyond anything they have ever seen. The phrase "compromising the integrity of the game" keeps coming up.

The impact of impermissable benefits and recruiting violations (the bulk of cases) is tough to pin down. In this case we can point directly at games where this affected the outcome. And the team on trial is on a track that could lead to a National Championship. Nobody wants that to happen.

Folks keep talking about the 90 days the University has to respond to allegations. But if the university agrees to the facts and the punishment it can happen as soon as that agreement is reached. I would think that the NCAA in this case would have significant leverage to negotiate something of a plea deal where speed leads to long term leniency.

All that said, I still believe Ono or the Big will bring the hammer down first - and I am betting on Ono.
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If Ono does it, it will be because Petitti (titti, butthead!) has told him the B1G will be swinging the axe if he doesn't.

My understanding of the dynamics up there is that Warde and the AD admins are all sick of Harbaugh and were hoping the NFL would take him away. Conversely, Ono hitched his wagon to Simple Jim and took over the contract negotiations that would have made Simple Jim the highest paid coach in CFB. Now, Ono's position can turn on a dime the moment that Ono believes that whacking Simple Jim is best for Ono. Hell, if he publicly humiliates Simple Jim with a mid-season whacking and acceptance of NCAA violations that confirm the rot in his program (and soul), I might even give him a pass for his fuckery at Cincinnati. Shit, they can commission a new poem about him.

Lotta ins, lotta outs to this case, Man. Lotta strands in ol' Duder's head.
 
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Dryden said:
Yup. Accept forfeiting all contests from 2021-2023 and fire the staff, and you can return to the field in 2024. Contest this, and we’ll throw a multi year postseason ban and the worst scholarship reduction penalty the sport has seen since PSU/Jerry Sandusky.
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The PSU punishment was severe, and yet - as ugly as that was - there was no direct connection to the outcome of any game.

They were studying 50 hours of our practice videos. The same videos our players study so they can be prepared for the game. They created the word "egregious" just for cases like this.
 
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Oh8ch said:
Under normal circumstances I would agree on the NCAA slow rolling.

But this has been described by more than one long term coach as unprecedented, unacceptable and beyond anything they have ever seen. The phrase "compromising the integrity of the game" keeps coming up.

The impact of impermissable benefits and recruiting violations (the bulk of cases) is tough to pin down. In this case we can point directly at games where this affected the outcome. And the team on trial is on a track that could lead to a National Championship. Nobody wants that to happen.

Folks keep talking about the 90 days the University has to respond to allegations. But if the university agrees to the facts and the punishment it can happen as soon as that agreement is reached. I would think that the NCAA in this case would have significant leverage to negotiate something of a plea deal where speed leads to long term leniency.

All that said, I still believe Ono or the Big will bring the hammer down first - and I am betting on Ono.
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This seems to be saying that there is some serious illegal stuff going on, or they expect serious illegal stuff to be going on. Gambling for instance.
 
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osuvictory1 said:
I knew this question would come up, and I should have posted the article and can't find it. I should not have posted it.

It was a news story I read so take it for what it's worth.

With that said, historically, the Big 10 hasn't really gotten involved with NCAA matters.
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The difference, to me, is this is more of a B1G matter. One of your big brands appears to have gone rogue.
 
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osuvictory1 said:
I knew this question would come up, and I should have posted the article and can't find it. I should not have posted it.

It was a news story I read so take it for what it's worth.

With that said, historically, the Big 10 hasn't really gotten involved with NCAA matters.
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I think the gravity of what tsun has been doing is forcing a lot of things to be done differently. Witness the speed with which the NCAA got their asses to Ann Arbor. As Oh8ch mentioned, it's probably all going to turn on whether Ono agrees to the NCAA violations immediately when given the notice or whether he circles the wagons with Simple Jim and uses NCAA bylaws to push the reckoning back until after the playoffs. If it's the former, then the B1G backs off. If it's the latter, they step in and deal with it themselves--there's just going to be too much pressure from the other 17 schools. I'm starting to think that he sacrifices Simple Jim. If I'm him, is a possible championship worth having your legacy be enabling the biggest cheating scandal since the Black Sox and then probably losing your job after the NCAA nukes you from orbit? I might think differently in the morning, but at the moment, I think Ono puts Simple Jim's head into the vise and deals with the internal politics of it afterwards. To me, that's the smart play.

One thing for certain is that Simple Jim is too stupid, too arrogant and too delusional to go quietly into that good night. I'm betting that he tries to rip the university apart if they turn on him. And I will fucking be there for it!
 
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buckeyemania11 said:
Im sure DFBIA is cheering on the possibility that Harbaugh and crew didn’t show up. This isn’t going to sit well with the NCAA at all though. If they were mad before they are really playing with fire here.
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And importantly, it probably alienated Ono, members of the Board and some influential donors too. One thing I learned about Ono at UC was that he is a supremely political creature. If he decides that it's in his best interest to cut Simple Jim loose, this will definitely be a card in his deck with the Board and donors.
 
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