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I doubt any of those LB's are taller than 6'3". If you go back and look at the 03 roster you might be surprised at how many monsters they had. Nate Salley, Fraser, Carpenter, Will Smith, Reynolds, etc. But still, I agree this D has a lot of length
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Safeties looked go awful. Now I see why they went into game 1 not knowing who’d start between Pryor and Wint, both aren’t very good at being Safeties. Both are terrible in coverage and take worse angles when beat. Fuller needs to be the safety that is the safety net for the defense while Pryor or Wint are at best allowed to be somewhat enforecers and step up in the run game, because in space they’re both liabilities. Surprised that Riep hasn’t stepped in above them both
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
OHIO STATE WINS OPENER BUT ITS DEFENSE NEEDS SIGNIFICANT WORK
In a season-opening 77-31 win over Oregon State, Ohio State's offense looked liked a fine-tuned machine.
The Buckeyes' defense? Not so much.
While quarterback Dwayne Haskins and company continued to pile up points, their defense continued to miss tackles, give up big plays and allow the Beavers to provide answers — especially on the ground.
"Yards count and points count and those are obviously blunders on the day," co-defensive coordinator said. "Nobody cares about the 'why.' We'll find out the 'why' as we evaluate things on film and we'll get those things corrected."
After a lengthy halftime rain delay, Oregon State needed just three plays to score twice to begin the second half, coming on rushes of 80 and 78 yards from Artavis Pierce. The Beavers' first score was also a big play, coming on a 49-yard pass from Conor Blount to Trevon Bradford.
In total, Ohio State surrendered 392 total yards, 196 of which came on the ground.
"We made a lot of mistakes in the second half that could easily be fixed," junior defensive end Nick Bosa said. "Even in the first half, we made some mistakes. Once we fix those, we can take this momentum and build on that. We knew (Pierce) was a good player. But those are easy plays for us if we just stay aggressive."
Last season, the linebackers were heavily scrutinized for the group's play at times.
Coming into Saturday's contest, the status of sophomore linebacker Tuf Borland was up in the air after he suffered and Achilles injury in the spring. Borland did see playing time and sophomore starter Pete Werner was a bright spot.
But those bits of good news couldn't overshadow the glaring holes the defense sometimes featured. Some of that could have to do with facing an unfamiliar opponent with a new offensive coordinator and an offensive-minded head coach.
"There's a lot of unknowns and there's always unknowns heading into the first week," Grinch said. "From a preparation standpoint, I think guys handled it well. You know, some missed opportunities. One play was a TFL and they run the exact same play and it breaks for a gain. That doesn't make it OK."
Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...opener-but-its-defense-needs-significant-work
In a season-opening 77-31 win over Oregon State, Ohio State's offense looked liked a fine-tuned machine.
The Buckeyes' defense? Not so much.
While quarterback Dwayne Haskins and company continued to pile up points, their defense continued to miss tackles, give up big plays and allow the Beavers to provide answers — especially on the ground.
"Yards count and points count and those are obviously blunders on the day," co-defensive coordinator said. "Nobody cares about the 'why.' We'll find out the 'why' as we evaluate things on film and we'll get those things corrected."
After a lengthy halftime rain delay, Oregon State needed just three plays to score twice to begin the second half, coming on rushes of 80 and 78 yards from Artavis Pierce. The Beavers' first score was also a big play, coming on a 49-yard pass from Conor Blount to Trevon Bradford.
In total, Ohio State surrendered 392 total yards, 196 of which came on the ground.
"We made a lot of mistakes in the second half that could easily be fixed," junior defensive end Nick Bosa said. "Even in the first half, we made some mistakes. Once we fix those, we can take this momentum and build on that. We knew (Pierce) was a good player. But those are easy plays for us if we just stay aggressive."
Last season, the linebackers were heavily scrutinized for the group's play at times.
Coming into Saturday's contest, the status of sophomore linebacker Tuf Borland was up in the air after he suffered and Achilles injury in the spring. Borland did see playing time and sophomore starter Pete Werner was a bright spot.
But those bits of good news couldn't overshadow the glaring holes the defense sometimes featured. Some of that could have to do with facing an unfamiliar opponent with a new offensive coordinator and an offensive-minded head coach.
"There's a lot of unknowns and there's always unknowns heading into the first week," Grinch said. "From a preparation standpoint, I think guys handled it well. You know, some missed opportunities. One play was a TFL and they run the exact same play and it breaks for a gain. That doesn't make it OK."
Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...opener-but-its-defense-needs-significant-work
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
Football: Safeties underwhelm in the absence of Jordan Fuller
From the minute the Ohio State defense took the field, the defensive line did not allow Oregon State to utilize its passing game very much.
In Saturday’s 77-31 win, Ohio State recorded six tackles-for-loss including five sacks. Junior defensive end Nick Bosa recorded two sacks, forcing two fumbles and recovering both of them, including one in the end zone for a touchdown.
When Beavers redshirt sophomore quarterback Conor Blount was given time to throw or junior running back Artavis Pierce had room to run, though, the Ohio State secondary seemed to feel like it was missing something.
Prior to kickoff, Ohio State announced junior safety and team captain Jordan Fuller was out for the game with a hamstring injury. Sophomore safeties Jahsen Wint and Isaiah Pryor, both of whom were battling for the starting spot next to Fuller during preseason camp, started for the Buckeyes in the season opener.
Co-defensive coordinator and safeties coach Alex Grinch said Fuller was a “game-time decision” heading into Saturday’s season opener and said he hopes to have him back next week in the Big Ten opener against Rutgers, saying, “he will be healthy very, very soon.”
Fuller’s absence was felt in the secondary in both pass defense and the second-level of the Ohio State rush defense.
Blount completed 12 of 19 pass attempts for 169 yards with two touchdown passes, including one 49-yard touchdown pass to junior wide receiver Trevon Bradford in the first quarter. In the Beavers’ running game, Pierce, averaging 15.3 yards per rush, recording two rushing touchdowns of over 75 yards.
In the eyes of Grinch, the Oregon State offense just took advantage of what the Ohio State defense gave it.
“I think the one thing that happens to you, on the back end any time the play breaks it’s ‘Where were you?’” Grinch said. “That can be the easy answer not always the right answer, and you got a gentleman running down the field and you got one safety in the middle of it, and he’s got a lot of green grass on either side to run away from you, that’s advantage offense.”
For Pryor, this was an extended opportunity for both him and Wint to show what they each could do individually in the absence of Fuller. He said the opportunity for both of them to get on the field at the same time was crucial for each of their success moving forward.
However, the message that Fuller gave both Wint and Pryor before the game gave them both more responsibility than just their personal game.
“He put it on us to make sure we get the whole defense straight at safety and take on that responsibility for him,” Pryor said.
Entire article: https://www.thelantern.com/2018/09/football-safeties-underwhelm-in-the-absence-of-jordan-fuller/
From the minute the Ohio State defense took the field, the defensive line did not allow Oregon State to utilize its passing game very much.
In Saturday’s 77-31 win, Ohio State recorded six tackles-for-loss including five sacks. Junior defensive end Nick Bosa recorded two sacks, forcing two fumbles and recovering both of them, including one in the end zone for a touchdown.
When Beavers redshirt sophomore quarterback Conor Blount was given time to throw or junior running back Artavis Pierce had room to run, though, the Ohio State secondary seemed to feel like it was missing something.
Prior to kickoff, Ohio State announced junior safety and team captain Jordan Fuller was out for the game with a hamstring injury. Sophomore safeties Jahsen Wint and Isaiah Pryor, both of whom were battling for the starting spot next to Fuller during preseason camp, started for the Buckeyes in the season opener.
Co-defensive coordinator and safeties coach Alex Grinch said Fuller was a “game-time decision” heading into Saturday’s season opener and said he hopes to have him back next week in the Big Ten opener against Rutgers, saying, “he will be healthy very, very soon.”
Fuller’s absence was felt in the secondary in both pass defense and the second-level of the Ohio State rush defense.
Blount completed 12 of 19 pass attempts for 169 yards with two touchdown passes, including one 49-yard touchdown pass to junior wide receiver Trevon Bradford in the first quarter. In the Beavers’ running game, Pierce, averaging 15.3 yards per rush, recording two rushing touchdowns of over 75 yards.
In the eyes of Grinch, the Oregon State offense just took advantage of what the Ohio State defense gave it.
“I think the one thing that happens to you, on the back end any time the play breaks it’s ‘Where were you?’” Grinch said. “That can be the easy answer not always the right answer, and you got a gentleman running down the field and you got one safety in the middle of it, and he’s got a lot of green grass on either side to run away from you, that’s advantage offense.”
For Pryor, this was an extended opportunity for both him and Wint to show what they each could do individually in the absence of Fuller. He said the opportunity for both of them to get on the field at the same time was crucial for each of their success moving forward.
However, the message that Fuller gave both Wint and Pryor before the game gave them both more responsibility than just their personal game.
“He put it on us to make sure we get the whole defense straight at safety and take on that responsibility for him,” Pryor said.
Entire article: https://www.thelantern.com/2018/09/football-safeties-underwhelm-in-the-absence-of-jordan-fuller/
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Buckeye86
I do not choose to discuss it
I think
1. we played vanilla and didn’t put anything interesting on tape
2. we were hurting at safety without Fuller out there making the calls
3. our LBs need to get better but are young
4. we were scoring so quickly the defense was on the field all game with hardly any rest (the ultra anti-Tresselball)
Given that #3 is an ongoing concern from all of last season, I think continuing questions about Bill Davis are justified... if we don’t improve there he should probably be on a hot seat.
I don’t think it’s time to panic at all. I think the defense gave up some big plays (obviously) but overall there is plenty to be positive about.
1. we played vanilla and didn’t put anything interesting on tape
2. we were hurting at safety without Fuller out there making the calls
3. our LBs need to get better but are young
4. we were scoring so quickly the defense was on the field all game with hardly any rest (the ultra anti-Tresselball)
Given that #3 is an ongoing concern from all of last season, I think continuing questions about Bill Davis are justified... if we don’t improve there he should probably be on a hot seat.
I don’t think it’s time to panic at all. I think the defense gave up some big plays (obviously) but overall there is plenty to be positive about.
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bukIpower
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LB play was decent I thought but yeah on that inside run they gave up for long score went right through the backers.
Make a good point about being on the field too much though. They were out there a ton and you have to think as the weather cools down we will improve.
Safety play to me was obviously the most troubling and it's shocking how bad Wint was today. I hate to harp on him but geez he didnt look like an osu quality player out there at all. We need to have Fuller healthy this year and you have to hope a young guy steps up.
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I was impressed with the athleticism of our defense.
They almost caught some of those Oregon St players.
They almost caught some of those Oregon St players.
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buckeyesin07
Veni. Vidi. Vici.
Agree with this. Pryor was the lesser of the two evils, but Wint just looked lost out there. On the second of the long TD runs, Wint was in perfect position to limit the run to a 15-yarder, but he took a poor angle and the RB turned it into an 80-yd TD. He did pretty much exactly what you don't want your safety to do. Awful.
I wasn't as high on any of the LBs as others in this thread seem to be. Oregon State got their RBs into the secondary way too often--that's on Werner, Browning and Harrison. I have a hard time giving the LB corps a higher grade than a C- (if not a D+).
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