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2015-16 Ohio State Quarterback Discussion

2016 will likely not be our year. We will be losing a freaking ton of 1-3 round talent. Recruiting is going great but that leads to more kids leaving as juniors and next year will really be the start of it.


But with OSU being the top dog in the Big 10, and our competition being MSU, and possibly scUM in a few years, OSU's off years will still see us in the playoff
 
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My initial comment was just to acknowledge how much talent - young talent- the Bucks put on the field. A bit of talent redshirted this year and it looks like even more talent is coming in with this recruiting class. Especially interesting to me is the list of talent recruited at QB. Not sure how long Urban can keep all that talent happy, but it's fun to imagine the possibilities.
 
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I don't see many, if any, 2-loss seasons on the horizon. The young talent we're stockpiling is hungry and working. When they get their chances, I expect them to ball-out. We are seeing/about to see depth of talent like we've never consistently, if at all, enjoyed.
 
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I don't see many, if any, 2-loss seasons on the horizon. The young talent we're stockpiling is hungry and working. When they get their chances, I expect them to ball-out. We are seeing/about to see depth of talent like we've never consistently, if at all, enjoyed.

This. Taking nothing away from previous staff's success, I've thought over the years that their success was relatively surprising at times. Perhaps from a bit of a depleted B1G? I don't know, but it was almost as if they were sucessful in spite of themselves at times.

What we're seeing now is that it's not uncommon for kids to be recruited over, and we have a staff that is stronger in the talent development department than many of the previous staffs. Better talent coming in + better development of the talent > anything we've seen in the past. Personally, I'm looking for down years to be very much what most teams consider to be stretch goal years. It's just a different level across the board. Two loss seasons in the foreseeable future would be a surprise.
 
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I was saying "exactly" to OSU's off years being 2 loses. I agree, we won't be in the playoffs with 2 losses though. But those years will be few and far between with the talent that's coming in.
You specifically said above, "OSU's off years will still see us in the playoff". Since you agree that the off years are 2-loss years, you then see a 2-loss OSU team in the playoffs based on that statment, and that's what I addressed.

Maybe if the playoffs expend to eight teams, I can see a 2-loss OSU maybe slide in to the #7 or #8 slot.
 
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This. Taking nothing away from previous staff's success, I've thought over the years that their success was relatively surprising at times. Perhaps from a bit of a depleted B1G? I don't know, but it was almost as if they were sucessful in spite of themselves at times.

What we're seeing now is that it's not uncommon for kids to be recruited over, and we have a staff that is stronger in the talent development department than many of the previous staffs. Better talent coming in + better development of the talent > anything we've seen in the past. Personally, I'm looking for down years to be very much what most teams consider to be stretch goal years. It's just a different level across the board. Two loss seasons in the foreseeable future would be a surprise.
I don't see many, if any, 2-loss seasons on the horizon. The young talent we're stockpiling is hungry and working. When they get their chances, I expect them to ball-out. We are seeing/about to see depth of talent like we've never consistently, if at all, enjoyed.
I see one in 2016 if there is a mass exodus, especially if that includes some coaches like Ed or Chris.

The league is improving and the ooc schedule is improving big time, with multiple years featuring multiple quality opponents.

Off years, with roster holes, injuries or other flaws will be definite candidates for 2 loss seasons. This title winning season was very close to 2-3 losses.

Should they expect them? No, but they are hardly a four leaf clover moving forward.
 
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Don't want to sound like a wise guy, but that's true for almost any NC team. Look at this year's finalists: Alabama could have easily lost two more games. Florida State should have lost at least two. Oregon? Can't remember, but did n't USC play them close?
Of course it is. The question is whether an off year will result in two losses in the same season. I certainly see that as a definite possibility as soon as two seasons from now.

To avoid two losses, you have to win 11 regular season games - and the whole playoff - or your one loss has to be so bad that you are eliminated from contention, after which you win a NY6 bowl (And maybe a ccg too)
 
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Of course it is. The question is whether an off year will result in two losses in the same season. I certainly see that as a definite possibility as soon as two seasons from now.
I have to pretty much agree with the bolded. The 2016 season is the first where we play nine conference games (we're still head and shoulders over almost everyone in the conference), and it's also the season we play at Oklahoma. We should be stacked in 2016 with the 2014 recruiting class and, if they turn out as good as hope, the 2015 and 2016 classes. So, basically depending on how good the Sooners actually are, 2016 may or may not be a 2-loss season.

This is all taking for granted that this season (2015) is going to turn out as good as we expect...
 
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I have to pretty much agree with the bolded. The 2016 season is the first where we play nine conference games (we're still head and shoulders over almost everyone in the conference), and it's also the season we play at Oklahoma. We should be stacked in 2016 with the 2014 recruiting class and, if they turn out as good as hope, the 2015 and 2016 classes. So, basically depending on how good the Sooners actually are, 2016 may or may not be a 2-loss season.

This is all taking for granted that this season (2015) is going to turn out as good as we expect...
The next decade is stacked (on paper) after 2015:

15 - VT
16 - OU
17 - OU
18 - TCU, OrSU
19 - TCU, OrSU
20 - ORE
21 - ORE
22 - ND, TX
22 - ND, TX
 
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The next decade is stacked (on paper) after 2015:

15 - VT
16 - OU
17 - OU
18 - TCU, OrSU
19 - TCU
20 - ORE
21 - ORE
22 - ND, TX
23 - ND, TX, BC
24 - BC
I'd like to think our chances of winning the home games of those listed are pretty good (although the '05/'06 series against Texas was the opposite).

Also, per here I also added the '23/'24 Boston College series to, and removed the 2019 Oregon State game from, your quote. The 2023 OOC schedule of Texas, Notre Dame, and Boston College may be the toughest 3-game OOC schedule of all time...
 
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