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2015-16 Ohio State Quarterback Discussion

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brodybuck21 said:
i will say Eze was more of a threat with Cardale at QB. id love to see the breakdown of his stats with JT vs. Cardale under center
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Very true. I would have expected the opposite. When a good defense sees a quarterback that doesn't have any starting experience, and all you've seen is his running and handing the ball off during his mop up duty earlier in the year, you scheme to stop the run and force him to throw. That didn't happen at all. On the other hand I would have expected a better running game with JT who is a 'short ball' distributor. Against JT they would have to defend from sideline to sideline, taking guys out of the box making it easy to run between the tackles.
 
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With JT, opposing teams could cheat their safeties up towards the line b/c of the threat from a QB scramble/handoff or short route from the reciever but Cardale can throw over the top of safeties, so they cannot cheat up closer to the line and the resulted in more open running lanes and getting EzE to the second level.
 
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brodybuck21 said:
i will say Eze was more of a threat with Cardale at QB. id love to see the breakdown of his stats with JT vs. Cardale under center
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All you'd really have to do is subtract his last three games from the rest of the season to get this (he may have had a few carries in The Game after Barrett got hurt and Jones came in, but I'm too lazy to look those up). This would give you:

With Barrett: 197-1,182 (6.0 ypc)
With Jones: 76-696 (9.2 ypc)

Bucknut24 said:
while true, it's hard to compare as the o-line was getting better each week, and really seemed to peak at the end of the season
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Even if you take just the last four games of the regular season (with Barrett at QB) to account for the OL improvement and compare them to the three post-season games (with Jones at QB), there's still a big difference:

MSU, Minn, Ind, and scUM totals: 71-473 (6.7 ypc). I took the last four games of the regular season instead of the last three since his MSU game had to most yardage out of the four.

It's clear that Zeke was significantly more effective and dangerous with Jones at QB. Being on a bigger stage during the post-season could account for a half-yard or yard increase in ypc on its own, but jumping up a full two and a half yards per carry from your end-of-season average is more than that. Zeke busting out two 80+ yard TD runs with Jones at QB isn't coincidence...
 
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To be fair though, a lot of Zekes Wham runs would have been read options with Barrett whereas Cardale ran very little if any read option. I also think the Oline really started feeling their oats on that wham play up the middle in the last four games and Zeke went berzerk on it.

Either way we're in like Flynn. I think Barrett is a better distributor and option guy than Cardale but we are a better power team with 12 out there all the way around.
 
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kujirakira said:
I'm partial to JT's ability to distribute and run read option... but when you have a QB who poses such a deep threat that the secondary is practically playing prevent... man that opens some stuff up.

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From 11w's Ross Fulton breakdown
http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-...v-oregon-national-championship-film-breakdown
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The thing about that breakdown is, Oregon plays their safeties deep ALL the time
 
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After long thought (pending me getting bored from now until August and commenting in a long tangent anyways)...this is just going to be me watching us make a choice that nobody else has the privilege to make :drunks:
 
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