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I'm sure that tOSU game will "skew" those stats even more.

They are who they and they'll get a bye week to rest up before the game in EL. Plus MSU has had the benefit of seeing a top ranked offense while the best ranked "total offense" tOSU has faced is Cinci. BTW Where is Oregon ranked in total defense? Not in the top 50. Va Tech is ranked 20th.

MSU is ranked 34th in scoring defense and tOSU is at 24. What's that really mean when mostly OOC games like EMU and KSU probably "skew" those rankings too.

Also of note: tOSU is ranked 4th in scoring offense...MSU is ranked 3rd.

This is really building up to one of the biggest B1G regular season matchups since 2006. But you'd never know it because ESecPN is all over the SEC nutsacks week in and week out.
 
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maximumblitz said:
tOSU #9 in total offense.
MSU #12 in total offense.

MSU #9 in total defense.
tOSU #15 in total defense.

http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/22

http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/21
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The offense part I mentioned was scoring offense. They're #3 at 47.0 PPG. OSU is #4 at 46.5 PPG. Very minimal, but the point was I wouldn't expect the same margins of victory that have been going on recently even if OSU manages to put up 50 points.
 
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NFBuck said:
MSU's defense isn't what it was last year by a longshot. It is vulnerable. Their offense scares me more at this point.
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I think you are right.

I know we have seen improvement in our defense, but I'm still concerned. Rutgers shot themselves in the foot in a few occasions where we didn't really stop them so I still have some concerns there, but maybe that's just me being nervous. MSU seems like a legit test for our defense so I feel like we will know a lot more about both our offense and defense after that.
 
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After losing four starters to graduation, the Buckeyes' offensive line was supposed to be the team's weakness in 2014. The unit did look shaky against Navy and especially Virginia Tech (125 yards rushing, 3.0 ypc, 7 sacks allowed, 19 first downs), but in the four games since that debacle, the offense has averaged 56 points, 614 total yards, 314 yards rushing, 5.96 yards per carry, and 34 first downs, while allowing only 5 total sacks. It is amazing how quickly the offensive line has become a strength of this team, but what is even more amazing is how offensive line coach Ed Warinner has assembled this unit from a bunch of guys who were mediocre prospects and cast offs from the defensive side of the ball. Here is a breakdown of the Buckeyes' 2014 offensive line:

  • LT Taylor Decker (junior, class of 2012) is the one true stud on the OL, and he was projected to be a star coming out of high school by both Scout (4*, #77 overall prospect) and Rivals (4*, #221 overall prospect). Decker looks to be a future All Big Ten selection, and possible All American
  • LG Billy Price (freshman, class of 2013) was rated as a top defensive line prospect by both Scout (4*, #204 overall prospect) and Rivals (4*, #175 overall prospect). He is one of four former defensive linemen who has made the transition to offense. Price looks like he will be a four-year starter on the offensive line.
  • OC Jacoby Boren (junior, class of 2012) was not a highly regarded prospect, largely due to his lack of size (6' 1", 273 lbs), but he was pursued by Ohio State as a legacy recruit (his older brothers Justin and Zach were stars for the Buckeyes). Jacoby was rated 3* by Scout (#80 OG) and 3* by Rivals (#37 OG), but he has locked down the starting job at center.
  • RG Pat Elflein (sophomore, class of 2012) was recruited when the Ohio State program was in turmoil between the forced resignation of Jim Tressel (May 31, 2011) and eventual hiring of Urban Meyer (November 28, 2011). It looked like Elflein, a consensus 3* OG prospect, would quickly be "recruited over" by Meyer's staff, but he has been impressive thus far in limited action and looks to be a mainstay of the line going forward.
  • RT Darryl Baldwin (senior, class of 2010) was a player who showed nothing during his first four years in the program, and perhaps that was to be expected from a kid who was a low 3* recruit. Baldwin was brought in as a defensive line prospect, but as a fifth-year senior he earned the starting job at right offensive tackle. Baldwin has played surprisingly well for a guy whose previous experience consisted of special teams and mop-up duty.
  • OT Chase Farris (junior, class of 2011) was a 4* DL prospect rated #107 overall by Scout and #142 overall by Rivals. Farris was unable to find a home on defense but has emerged as the chief reserve on the OL as the backup to both RG Pat Elflein and RT Darryl Baldwin.
  • OG Joel Hale (senior, class of 2011) was a 3* DT prospect who played sparingly along the defensive line during his first three seasons (20 tackles, 0.5 TFL for his Buckeye career). As a senior, Hale made the transition to offense to provide some depth along the interior of the line.
  • OG Antonio Underwood (junior, class of 2011) was yet another 3* OG prospect who was expected to do very little at Ohio State. Like Hale, Underwood has provided valuable depth at both guard and center.
So there you have it, the 2014 Ohio State offensive line - one legitimate blue chip prospect (Taylor Decker) along with a bunch of three-star projects and rejects from the defensive side of the ball. I have to give this group a lot of credit for busting their collective assets to improve themselves beyond their recruiting rankings, and also to Ed Warinner for coaching these guys up to a very high level. The Buckeyes still have a lot to prove before they can be considered a truly elite team - the November 8th contest against Michigan State will tell be their next big test - but so far the offensive line has earned unexpectedly high marks. Kudos!
 
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http://espn.go.com/college-football...buckeyes-rbs-work-together-form-powerful-unit

The Buckeyes' band of brothers
Ohio State's RBs put unit and team goals over their own individual needs
Originally Published: October 22, 2014
By Austin Ward | ESPN.com


COLUMBUS, Ohio -- A powerful unit rolls into a meeting room all together on time, even if it's 6:30 in the morning. This football band of brothers known as the Ohio State running backs knows which member may have needed to sleep at the practice facility to make it that early during a bye week, or which guy was most likely to have skipped brushing his teeth.

They also know they better respond when their position coach, Stan Drayton, coffee in one hand and clicker for game tape in the other, greets them with a sharp, loud, "Good morning."

Sit in an Buckeyes running backs meeting it's becomes painfully obvious that the most important thing for this powerful unit comprised of everything from a true freshman to a senior is that it had better be ready for anything Drayton might throw at it. It's only an hour, but this film session doubles as yet another competition for a group that thrives on it.

Cont'd ...
 
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matcar said:
I think you are right.

I know we have seen improvement in our defense, but I'm still concerned. Rutgers shot themselves in the foot in a few occasions where we didn't really stop them so I still have some concerns there, but maybe that's just me being nervous. MSU seems like a legit test for our defense so I feel like we will know a lot more about both our offense and defense after that.
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I am a little nervous about Penn State and I know that every team that comes up against us has to play the best to beat us. I Always hope that Ohio State will always play the same against any of our opponents.
 
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[In$ider]: http://insider.espn.go.com/college-...ate-buckeyes-offense-dynamic-college-football

McShay breaks down OSU's dynamic personnel (which he's now seen personally twice as the sideline reporter for the Maryland and Rutgers games). Notes how OSU will trot out 11 personnel on third and longs against nickel or dime coverage, which if converted predicts OSU goes up tempo with Heuerman's 4.65 40 speed and Wilson's flexibility shifting to 21 personnel, while stalling defensive substitutions. Allows OSU to exploit the read-option and power game.
 
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My only cause for concern this week is that it's Barrett's first time playing in a hostile environment, and it's against a defense that is probably better than VA Tech's. I'm still confident we will come out strong, but there's just that little seed of doubt in the back of my head that keeps saying our recent explosion on offense is mainly due to the competition. This week can validate our offense.
 
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Michael Bluth said:
My only cause for concern this week is that it's Barrett's first time playing in a hostile environment, and it's against a defense that is probably better than VA Tech's. I'm still confident we will come out strong, but there's just that little seed of doubt in the back of my head that keeps saying our recent explosion on offense is mainly due to the competition. This week can validate our offense.
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Didn't we play Navy and Maryland away? It's not like he's not used to playing away already. I know it's not 100K+ but still, he's played away from the 'Shoe.
 
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The difficulty added is that PSU has a very good defense and it will be a primetime game under the lights against 100,000+ fans who still think we are their rival. While they are a step up from the defenses we have already played, there is the caveat that their defense has played nobody even close to the caliber of our offense. In any event, it will be a stout test to see where J.T. and this offense are at.
 
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